Can someone explain our Ukraine response?

[Anonymous]

Safe to say Ukraine is not joining NATO after this. Europe does not have the appetite for war this close to home. I feel bad for Zelensky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, please look up the role Victoria Nuland played in destabilizing the region back in 2014. That small country has been anything but peaceful since then.

This.
It started the dominoes' effect.

+1. This is a result of years and years of foreign policy blunders dating back to the Obama era.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, please look up the role Victoria Nuland played in destabilizing the region back in 2014. That small country has been anything but peaceful since then.

This.
It started the dominoes' effect.

+1. This is a result of years and years of foreign policy blunders dating back to the Obama era.

The foreign policy blunders started before Obama. The Second Gulf War was a huge blunder. The war in Afghanistan was necessary but was handled terribly. Had we put Afghanistan’s former king, a peaceful and un ambitious man, in as a quasi President, the warlords in as Senators, and had established a democratically elected House of Representatives with democratically elected local officials the country might well have survived. Instead, we gave the former king the stupid title “Father of the Nation” and installed him in the traditional palace and gave him no power whatsoever. Instead, power was given to corrupt Presidents elected in fraudulent elections. The people had no trust in the government Bush 43 established which allowed the Taliban to infiltrate the government.

[Anonymous]

Vlad,
The great Vlad Putin.
He’s tough.
He’s one of the toughest.

That I can tell you,
That much I can tell you.

He’s taking a look at Ukrania.
He’s taking a look at it. He's taking a look.
They call it a peace-keeping mission, OK?
Peace. Ya gotta keep the peace.

But the other guy, Zeremski.
Him, I’m not so sure about.

So we’ll have to see.
We’ll have to see what happens.

[Anonymous]

If we quietly support Ukraine, while publicly stating that we are not getting involved, then it appears like Russia's military is struggling to defeat a country whose GDP is less than half of Tennessee's GDP. It also keeps the war from spreading beyond Ukraine.

-OSD Policy Analyst

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If we quietly support Ukraine, while publicly stating that we are not getting involved, then it appears like Russia's military is struggling to defeat a country whose GDP is less than half of Tennessee's GDP. It also keeps the war from spreading beyond Ukraine.

-OSD Policy Analyst

You meant to sign this,
-OSD Policy Analyst who has zero compunction breaking NDAs and possibly exposing national secrets

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we quietly support Ukraine, while publicly stating that we are not getting involved, then it appears like Russia's military is struggling to defeat a country whose GDP is less than half of Tennessee's GDP. It also keeps the war from spreading beyond Ukraine.

-OSD Policy Analyst

You meant to sign this,
-OSD Policy Analyst who has zero compunction breaking NDAs and possibly exposing national secrets

I don't work on EUCOM issues, just my opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we quietly support Ukraine, while publicly stating that we are not getting involved, then it appears like Russia's military is struggling to defeat a country whose GDP is less than half of Tennessee's GDP. It also keeps the war from spreading beyond Ukraine.

-OSD Policy Analyst

You meant to sign this,
-OSD Policy Analyst who has zero compunction breaking NDAs and possibly exposing national secrets

DP here. Nothing in the above response is remotely sensitive. https://time.com/6151115/nato-russia-ukraine-article-4/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If we quietly support Ukraine, while publicly stating that we are not getting involved, then it appears like Russia's military is struggling to defeat a country whose GDP is less than half of Tennessee's GDP. It also keeps the war from spreading beyond Ukraine.

-OSD Policy Analyst

Nah. Our support for Ukraine has been public. This is just how strong, or rather how weak, Russia's army is. This is their "A game". This is it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we quietly support Ukraine, while publicly stating that we are not getting involved, then it appears like Russia's military is struggling to defeat a country whose GDP is less than half of Tennessee's GDP. It also keeps the war from spreading beyond Ukraine.

-OSD Policy Analyst

You meant to sign this,
-OSD Policy Analyst who has zero compunction breaking NDAs and possibly exposing national secrets

lol, calm down James Bond

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am far from a foreign policy expert, and my thinking here is certainly oversimplified. But, in those simple terms, a brutal dictator just invaded a relatively peaceful, democratic country. Why aren't we doing more?

Does this sort of thing happen more frequently than I'm aware of, and the thought is we can't get involved everywhere?

Is it because we don't have a mutual defense agreement with Ukraine?

Because we're scared of war with Russia?

Because we don't care?

I just read an article about harsh(er) sanctions we could bring to bear, but that Biden is holding those for further leverage. Leverage for what, though? The invasion has occurred? Isn't now the time to implement the harshest possible sanctions?

Maybe you can read about it before being so stupid? It is not simple as that, not at all. And many agree that Ukraine started this BS with the pipeline BS and trying to hold Russia hostage to their prices. When powers speak, you shut up and listen. You know, like Serbia should have done, instead they got bombed, for a very simple reason, they did not listen to the World Power.

Lay off the vodka Sergei

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Are you nuts? You want to send your kid to war over Russia and Ukraine. Cause a devastation of the world?
Kill us all?

This PP has forgotten that we just withdrew from Afganistan and gave up on their "dreams of democracy" while throwing our own people on the ground under the bus in a rather abrupt manner.. and helping start another horrible humanitarian crisis.

^^ meant to say PP you are responding to, not you, you are right. Nobody in their right mind wants to start another war not to mention send their loved ones to risk their lives. I bet they don't even want to downgrade to a smaller less gas guzzling car or live in anything less than 4000 sq.ft.

I don't have a car and live in 900 sq ft. Stop with the assumptions.

Great! Now you are ready to give up your firstborn to fuel the war machine for "democracy" in some obscure foreign country that matters for TODAY'S politics and may not matter tomorrow just like a whole bunch of other democracy wars we had abandoned.

Some obscure foreign country? Now I know your aren’t serious. Ukraine is flanked by NATO countries to the east. If Putin succeeds, do you think he intends to stop at Ukraine’s borders?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile Putin never attacked a sovereign nation while the "savvy" and "brilliant" potus (who shall be nameless) was in charge

Why break a window if the home owner leaves the door wide open? Trump was Putin's servant.

And yet, he didn't enter the supposed wide open door.

[Anonymous]

The US is thinking about its people first and foremost. Who wants to send their soldiers to die god knows where for god knows what?
Maybe the US has learned…

[Anonymous]

My 13 yo said earlier today that this feels reminiscent of Hitler’s invasion of Poland, when the rest of the world just watched it happen and did nothing.