ACPS mask policy?

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Anonymous wrote:Have any of you had kids in your child’s class with severe peanut allergies and complied with school requests to not pack any peanut items? We have had this come up multiple years. If you can do that, then you can also feasibly comply with a request to have your child wear a mask because there is a severely immunocompromised student in your child’s classroom.

Or, are you the type of parent who would just pack a PB&J sandwich anyway and say it was the allergic kid’s problem?

The severely immunocompromised student should consider other accommodations. It's unlikely that masks (cloth, poorly fitted, inconsistently-used) are sufficient mitigation in that scenario any way. Expect some students to begin masking next week and that trend to accelerate over time.

My child has a classmate with cancer. The masks do create a protective environment and we will continue masking for that child’s health and safety. Many students are now wearing KN95 and surgical masks, plus some use the well-fitting ACPS cloth. No, the accommodation is not to send that child home or isolate them, they have a right to the least restrictive, most inclusive environment that can safely be created.

If you’re not willing to mask your child to keep another kid safe, you suck.

Until when? What is your magic number for unmasking? Just a hypothetical question of course because whatever you answer is irrelevant.

WOW. WOW, WOW, WOW. You're seriously "hypothetical" questioning whether this other child's life is worth it because you want your kid to unmask? I'm with the person you're responding to. You suck, BIG TIME.

DP

Yes, what's your hypothetical number?

You're disgusting. But you know that already, don't you. Blech. No wonder you're trolling here. No one else wants to associate with you.

You can’t name a number?

What’s yours magical date for no longer being an asshole? Oh, never mind, you’re a forever jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:You cannot force children to wear kn95 masks (see study link). Other masks offer no protection. Kids eat with their masks off. This is all so performative and virtue-signaling. What about the child who needs to not wear a mask to be understood?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34043996/

So if your child’s pediatrician requires masks at their office, you think that’s just theater?

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Anonymous wrote:Hello. I just read a PTA email that said masks would be optional starting March 1. Has anyone else heard a date?

What PTA sent that? ACPS school board hasn’t even voted on the issue yet.

What do they need to vote on? The ability to opt out of wearing a mask is now the law.

I would hope ACPS will consider some limitations on how unmasked student interact with masked students. Let the unmasked kids give each other Covid if their parents want that.

AMEN. I really don't want my kids in classrooms with a bunch of kids who are unvaccinated and who aren't wearing masks. Put all the unmasked kids in a room with an unmasked teacher and let the rest of our kids keep on doing what they were doing.

Is this just message board whining given you know that's not going to happen?

Not really. Because there are quite a few parents like me and the other poster. We don't want our kids anywhere near you (or your kid if, God help us all, you are indeed a parent). Just like the hysterical unmaskers have something to say, so do those of us who would like a little more prudent behavior before the great unmasking of all of the rest of you. In case you didn't get the message, public schools need to respond to all stakeholders, not only the crazy ones like you.

Segregation and not legal. Separate but equal? You cannot separate the students this way. Please, be careful with your mindset here. You are advocating for some dangerous concepts (and please don't deflect with "but they should be masked, they're the ones that are dangerous, etc"). It doesn't matter my personal beliefs re masking, and it doesn't matter re yours either, but pushing for students who do not mask, within the confines of the law, to be separated into a different room with a different teacher is pretty straight forward segregation.

As a disabled person who was warehoused as a child by the public school system, this is a huge hot button. You cannot do this. I would except the ACLU to get involved in something like this, if they are actually still supportive of civil rights.

There is a difference when the children being separated pose a physical danger to the rest of the population. Children who are unmasked and unvaccinated pose a significant risk to the rest of the school population. Either they go virtual or they get separated so that they don't harm the greater community. Even the ACLU understands basic concepts like that.

Again, that’s not how it works. And what do you a physical danger of the magnitude to warrant segregation? Listen to yourself. Seriously, take a few minutes, pause and reflect where this argument is headed.

A child not wearing a mask is such a physical danger to warrant denying it his/her civil rights. This is what you’re proposing. Do you know the legal standard of what is required to segregate students? It’s not your opinion. It’s not a mask. You’re throwing words and concepts around that are just incredible.

Have you always been so passionate about protecting disability rights? You have any idea what the Capitol Crawl is? You’ve been supportive of inclusive classrooms right? You’ve seen the recent film Forget Me Not, right? Or did you just jump on this bandwagon now when you think it finally affected you?

I am unsure from reading your post(s) whether your confusion about the topics is purposeful to be hyperbolic and derail the discussion OR if you truly just don't understand the topics being discussed. Regardless, you are completely conflating and confusing topics: wearing masks or not wearing masks has NOTHING to do with racial segregation or physical segregation of people with disabilities. Wearing masks or not wearing masks has everything to do with public health and safety during a pandemic. Until you understand that there really isn't anything more to discuss with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Hello. I just read a PTA email that said masks would be optional starting March 1. Has anyone else heard a date?

What PTA sent that? ACPS school board hasn’t even voted on the issue yet.

What do they need to vote on? The ability to opt out of wearing a mask is now the law.

I would hope ACPS will consider some limitations on how unmasked student interact with masked students. Let the unmasked kids give each other Covid if their parents want that.

AMEN. I really don't want my kids in classrooms with a bunch of kids who are unvaccinated and who aren't wearing masks. Put all the unmasked kids in a room with an unmasked teacher and let the rest of our kids keep on doing what they were doing.

Is this just message board whining given you know that's not going to happen?

Not really. Because there are quite a few parents like me and the other poster. We don't want our kids anywhere near you (or your kid if, God help us all, you are indeed a parent). Just like the hysterical unmaskers have something to say, so do those of us who would like a little more prudent behavior before the great unmasking of all of the rest of you. In case you didn't get the message, public schools need to respond to all stakeholders, not only the crazy ones like you.

Segregation and not legal. Separate but equal? You cannot separate the students this way. Please, be careful with your mindset here. You are advocating for some dangerous concepts (and please don't deflect with "but they should be masked, they're the ones that are dangerous, etc"). It doesn't matter my personal beliefs re masking, and it doesn't matter re yours either, but pushing for students who do not mask, within the confines of the law, to be separated into a different room with a different teacher is pretty straight forward segregation.

As a disabled person who was warehoused as a child by the public school system, this is a huge hot button. You cannot do this. I would except the ACLU to get involved in something like this, if they are actually still supportive of civil rights.

There is a difference when the children being separated pose a physical danger to the rest of the population. Children who are unmasked and unvaccinated pose a significant risk to the rest of the school population. Either they go virtual or they get separated so that they don't harm the greater community. Even the ACLU understands basic concepts like that.

Again, that’s not how it works. And what do you a physical danger of the magnitude to warrant segregation? Listen to yourself. Seriously, take a few minutes, pause and reflect where this argument is headed.

A child not wearing a mask is such a physical danger to warrant denying it his/her civil rights. This is what you’re proposing. Do you know the legal standard of what is required to segregate students? It’s not your opinion. It’s not a mask. You’re throwing words and concepts around that are just incredible.

Have you always been so passionate about protecting disability rights? You have any idea what the Capitol Crawl is? You’ve been supportive of inclusive classrooms right? You’ve seen the recent film Forget Me Not, right? Or did you just jump on this bandwagon now when you think it finally affected you?

I am unsure from reading your post(s) whether your confusion about the topics is purposeful to be hyperbolic and derail the discussion OR if you truly just don't understand the topics being discussed. Regardless, you are completely conflating and confusing topics: wearing masks or not wearing masks has NOTHING to do with racial segregation or physical segregation of people with disabilities. Wearing masks or not wearing masks has everything to do with public health and safety during a pandemic. Until you understand that there really isn't anything more to discuss with you.

Oh well. Masks haven't been required in Virginia since last May and now no longer in schools. Classrooms won't be broken up to address your paranoia. So moving on...

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Anonymous wrote:Hello. I just read a PTA email that said masks would be optional starting March 1. Has anyone else heard a date?

What PTA sent that? ACPS school board hasn’t even voted on the issue yet.

What do they need to vote on? The ability to opt out of wearing a mask is now the law.

I would hope ACPS will consider some limitations on how unmasked student interact with masked students. Let the unmasked kids give each other Covid if their parents want that.

AMEN. I really don't want my kids in classrooms with a bunch of kids who are unvaccinated and who aren't wearing masks. Put all the unmasked kids in a room with an unmasked teacher and let the rest of our kids keep on doing what they were doing.

Is this just message board whining given you know that's not going to happen?

Not really. Because there are quite a few parents like me and the other poster. We don't want our kids anywhere near you (or your kid if, God help us all, you are indeed a parent). Just like the hysterical unmaskers have something to say, so do those of us who would like a little more prudent behavior before the great unmasking of all of the rest of you. In case you didn't get the message, public schools need to respond to all stakeholders, not only the crazy ones like you.

Segregation and not legal. Separate but equal? You cannot separate the students this way. Please, be careful with your mindset here. You are advocating for some dangerous concepts (and please don't deflect with "but they should be masked, they're the ones that are dangerous, etc"). It doesn't matter my personal beliefs re masking, and it doesn't matter re yours either, but pushing for students who do not mask, within the confines of the law, to be separated into a different room with a different teacher is pretty straight forward segregation.

As a disabled person who was warehoused as a child by the public school system, this is a huge hot button. You cannot do this. I would except the ACLU to get involved in something like this, if they are actually still supportive of civil rights.

There is a difference when the children being separated pose a physical danger to the rest of the population. Children who are unmasked and unvaccinated pose a significant risk to the rest of the school population. Either they go virtual or they get separated so that they don't harm the greater community. Even the ACLU understands basic concepts like that.

Again, that’s not how it works. And what do you a physical danger of the magnitude to warrant segregation? Listen to yourself. Seriously, take a few minutes, pause and reflect where this argument is headed.

A child not wearing a mask is such a physical danger to warrant denying it his/her civil rights. This is what you’re proposing. Do you know the legal standard of what is required to segregate students? It’s not your opinion. It’s not a mask. You’re throwing words and concepts around that are just incredible.

Have you always been so passionate about protecting disability rights? You have any idea what the Capitol Crawl is? You’ve been supportive of inclusive classrooms right? You’ve seen the recent film Forget Me Not, right? Or did you just jump on this bandwagon now when you think it finally affected you?

I am unsure from reading your post(s) whether your confusion about the topics is purposeful to be hyperbolic and derail the discussion OR if you truly just don't understand the topics being discussed. Regardless, you are completely conflating and confusing topics: wearing masks or not wearing masks has NOTHING to do with racial segregation or physical segregation of people with disabilities. Wearing masks or not wearing masks has everything to do with public health and safety during a pandemic. Until you understand that there really isn't anything more to discuss with you.

Oh well. Masks haven't been required in Virginia since last May and now no longer in schools. Classrooms won't be broken up to address your paranoia. So moving on...

Ah, so there's your answer, ^^PP. The troll was being an a$$hole because that's what trolls are.

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Anonymous wrote:Hello. I just read a PTA email that said masks would be optional starting March 1. Has anyone else heard a date?

What PTA sent that? ACPS school board hasn’t even voted on the issue yet.

What do they need to vote on? The ability to opt out of wearing a mask is now the law.

I would hope ACPS will consider some limitations on how unmasked student interact with masked students. Let the unmasked kids give each other Covid if their parents want that.

AMEN. I really don't want my kids in classrooms with a bunch of kids who are unvaccinated and who aren't wearing masks. Put all the unmasked kids in a room with an unmasked teacher and let the rest of our kids keep on doing what they were doing.

Is this just message board whining given you know that's not going to happen?

Not really. Because there are quite a few parents like me and the other poster. We don't want our kids anywhere near you (or your kid if, God help us all, you are indeed a parent). Just like the hysterical unmaskers have something to say, so do those of us who would like a little more prudent behavior before the great unmasking of all of the rest of you. In case you didn't get the message, public schools need to respond to all stakeholders, not only the crazy ones like you.

Segregation and not legal. Separate but equal? You cannot separate the students this way. Please, be careful with your mindset here. You are advocating for some dangerous concepts (and please don't deflect with "but they should be masked, they're the ones that are dangerous, etc"). It doesn't matter my personal beliefs re masking, and it doesn't matter re yours either, but pushing for students who do not mask, within the confines of the law, to be separated into a different room with a different teacher is pretty straight forward segregation.

As a disabled person who was warehoused as a child by the public school system, this is a huge hot button. You cannot do this. I would except the ACLU to get involved in something like this, if they are actually still supportive of civil rights.

There is a difference when the children being separated pose a physical danger to the rest of the population. Children who are unmasked and unvaccinated pose a significant risk to the rest of the school population. Either they go virtual or they get separated so that they don't harm the greater community. Even the ACLU understands basic concepts like that.

Again, that’s not how it works. And what do you a physical danger of the magnitude to warrant segregation? Listen to yourself. Seriously, take a few minutes, pause and reflect where this argument is headed.

A child not wearing a mask is such a physical danger to warrant denying it his/her civil rights. This is what you’re proposing. Do you know the legal standard of what is required to segregate students? It’s not your opinion. It’s not a mask. You’re throwing words and concepts around that are just incredible.

Have you always been so passionate about protecting disability rights? You have any idea what the Capitol Crawl is? You’ve been supportive of inclusive classrooms right? You’ve seen the recent film Forget Me Not, right? Or did you just jump on this bandwagon now when you think it finally affected you?

I am unsure from reading your post(s) whether your confusion about the topics is purposeful to be hyperbolic and derail the discussion OR if you truly just don't understand the topics being discussed. Regardless, you are completely conflating and confusing topics: wearing masks or not wearing masks has NOTHING to do with racial segregation or physical segregation of people with disabilities. Wearing masks or not wearing masks has everything to do with public health and safety during a pandemic. Until you understand that there really isn't anything more to discuss with you.

Oh well. Masks haven't been required in Virginia since last May and now no longer in schools. Classrooms won't be broken up to address your paranoia. So moving on...

Ah, so there's your answer, ^^PP. The troll was being an a$$hole because that's what trolls are.

FWIW, I'm not the poster to whom you're making demands for segregation. You're free to continue fighting that useless crusade here if you like.

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Anonymous wrote:Hello. I just read a PTA email that said masks would be optional starting March 1. Has anyone else heard a date?

What PTA sent that? ACPS school board hasn’t even voted on the issue yet.

What do they need to vote on? The ability to opt out of wearing a mask is now the law.

I would hope ACPS will consider some limitations on how unmasked student interact with masked students. Let the unmasked kids give each other Covid if their parents want that.

AMEN. I really don't want my kids in classrooms with a bunch of kids who are unvaccinated and who aren't wearing masks. Put all the unmasked kids in a room with an unmasked teacher and let the rest of our kids keep on doing what they were doing.

Is this just message board whining given you know that's not going to happen?

Not really. Because there are quite a few parents like me and the other poster. We don't want our kids anywhere near you (or your kid if, God help us all, you are indeed a parent). Just like the hysterical unmaskers have something to say, so do those of us who would like a little more prudent behavior before the great unmasking of all of the rest of you. In case you didn't get the message, public schools need to respond to all stakeholders, not only the crazy ones like you.

Segregation and not legal. Separate but equal? You cannot separate the students this way. Please, be careful with your mindset here. You are advocating for some dangerous concepts (and please don't deflect with "but they should be masked, they're the ones that are dangerous, etc"). It doesn't matter my personal beliefs re masking, and it doesn't matter re yours either, but pushing for students who do not mask, within the confines of the law, to be separated into a different room with a different teacher is pretty straight forward segregation.

As a disabled person who was warehoused as a child by the public school system, this is a huge hot button. You cannot do this. I would except the ACLU to get involved in something like this, if they are actually still supportive of civil rights.

There is a difference when the children being separated pose a physical danger to the rest of the population. Children who are unmasked and unvaccinated pose a significant risk to the rest of the school population. Either they go virtual or they get separated so that they don't harm the greater community. Even the ACLU understands basic concepts like that.

Again, that’s not how it works. And what do you a physical danger of the magnitude to warrant segregation? Listen to yourself. Seriously, take a few minutes, pause and reflect where this argument is headed.

A child not wearing a mask is such a physical danger to warrant denying it his/her civil rights. This is what you’re proposing. Do you know the legal standard of what is required to segregate students? It’s not your opinion. It’s not a mask. You’re throwing words and concepts around that are just incredible.

Have you always been so passionate about protecting disability rights? You have any idea what the Capitol Crawl is? You’ve been supportive of inclusive classrooms right? You’ve seen the recent film Forget Me Not, right? Or did you just jump on this bandwagon now when you think it finally affected you?

I am unsure from reading your post(s) whether your confusion about the topics is purposeful to be hyperbolic and derail the discussion OR if you truly just don't understand the topics being discussed. Regardless, you are completely conflating and confusing topics: wearing masks or not wearing masks has NOTHING to do with racial segregation or physical segregation of people with disabilities. Wearing masks or not wearing masks has everything to do with public health and safety during a pandemic. Until you understand that there really isn't anything more to discuss with you.

Oh well. Masks haven't been required in Virginia since last May and now no longer in schools. Classrooms won't be broken up to address your paranoia. So moving on...

I am the PP I think that you are responding to and I didn't write that. The argument was made that children without masks posed such a high level of danger to the masked children that they should be placed in a separate classroom with separate teachers. Correct? Then people started giving examples of there was a child with cancer in their class (I am very sorry to hear that, I hope the child goes into remission soon), and that all the classmates wear masks to protect the child with cancer. I think that is a wonderful display of support. And then there was a posting that this was why the ACLU was involved, to protect people's right to an inclusive, free education. So yes, we are discussing segregation and disabilities, but just the disabilities that need people to wear masks, not the disabilities that make masks or learning difficult. The cherry picking is unbelievable.

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ACPS won't be happy until it's the last school district in the county wearing masks.

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Anonymous wrote:ACPS won't be happy until it's the last school district in the county wearing masks.

Our household fully supports that. If you read the guidance, masking should continue. Masking helps prevent the spread of the virus. That is a worthwhile cause in our minds. That you place less value on the lives of your fellow Alexandrians speaks volumes about you, and not in a good way. So mock all you want and recognize that, yes, you are being judged because of it.

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Anonymous wrote:ACPS won't be happy until it's the last school district in the county wearing masks.

Our household fully supports that. If you read the guidance, masking should continue. Masking helps prevent the spread of the virus. That is a worthwhile cause in our minds. That you place less value on the lives of your fellow Alexandrians speaks volumes about you, and not in a good way. So mock all you want and recognize that, yes, you are being judged because of it.

Masking oneself with a properly-fitted N95 mask helps prevent the wearer from contracting the virus - that is the science. That is it. Cloth masks do nothing. KN95s affect the respiration of children when doing physical activity (so no more exercise for kids?!?!). Kids remove masks to eat lunch, to play instruments, and to play sports. Masks prevent small children from understanding emotions, they affect speech and language development, and just steal the joy of seeing smiles. Alexandrians committed to indefinite masking of children have jumped the shark.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it really strange that people are so opposed to wearing masks. My kid is vaccinated (and boostered), so the chance of him becoming seriously ill if he gets COVID is quite small. Still, I'd prefer him to wear a mask to avoid it at all if possible. I don't want him to have to miss school or sports, and I don't want him to pass it on to more vulnerable individuals.

Because my kids are also vaxxed, and despite all the mask wearing, got covid over Christmas. Seems like a good enough reason to me. And I'm really not interested in the "you could get Covid twice" nonsense. Because the Covid we got was barely a cold, so I'm really not worried about getting it again.

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Anonymous wrote:ACPS won't be happy until it's the last school district in the county wearing masks.

Our household fully supports that. If you read the guidance, masking should continue. Masking helps prevent the spread of the virus. That is a worthwhile cause in our minds. That you place less value on the lives of your fellow Alexandrians speaks volumes about you, and not in a good way. So mock all you want and recognize that, yes, you are being judged because of it.

Masking oneself with a properly-fitted N95 mask helps prevent the wearer from contracting the virus - that is the science. That is it. Cloth masks do nothing. KN95s affect the respiration of children when doing physical activity (so no more exercise for kids?!?!). Kids remove masks to eat lunch, to play instruments, and to play sports. Masks prevent small children from understanding emotions, they affect speech and language development, and just steal the joy of seeing smiles. Alexandrians committed to indefinite masking of children have jumped the shark.

I feel sorry for you. The sad part is that you have no idea why and you will never understand. It must be horrible to be you.

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Anonymous wrote:ACPS won't be happy until it's the last school district in the county wearing masks.

Our household fully supports that. If you read the guidance, masking should continue. Masking helps prevent the spread of the virus. That is a worthwhile cause in our minds. That you place less value on the lives of your fellow Alexandrians speaks volumes about you, and not in a good way. So mock all you want and recognize that, yes, you are being judged because of it.

Masking oneself with a properly-fitted N95 mask helps prevent the wearer from contracting the virus - that is the science. That is it. Cloth masks do nothing. KN95s affect the respiration of children when doing physical activity (so no more exercise for kids?!?!). Kids remove masks to eat lunch, to play instruments, and to play sports. Masks prevent small children from understanding emotions, they affect speech and language development, and just steal the joy of seeing smiles. Alexandrians committed to indefinite masking of children have jumped the shark.

I feel sorry for you. The sad part is that you have no idea why and you will never understand. It must be horrible to be you.

Ad hominem...to be expected.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it really strange that people are so opposed to wearing masks. My kid is vaccinated (and boostered), so the chance of him becoming seriously ill if he gets COVID is quite small. Still, I'd prefer him to wear a mask to avoid it at all if possible. I don't want him to have to miss school or sports, and I don't want him to pass it on to more vulnerable individuals.

+1 Same.

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Anonymous wrote:ACPS won't be happy until it's the last school district in the county wearing masks.

Our household fully supports that. If you read the guidance, masking should continue. Masking helps prevent the spread of the virus. That is a worthwhile cause in our minds. That you place less value on the lives of your fellow Alexandrians speaks volumes about you, and not in a good way. So mock all you want and recognize that, yes, you are being judged because of it.

Masking oneself with a properly-fitted N95 mask helps prevent the wearer from contracting the virus - that is the science. That is it. Cloth masks do nothing. KN95s affect the respiration of children when doing physical activity (so no more exercise for kids?!?!). Kids remove masks to eat lunch, to play instruments, and to play sports. Masks prevent small children from understanding emotions, they affect speech and language development, and just steal the joy of seeing smiles. Alexandrians committed to indefinite masking of children have jumped the shark.

I feel sorry for you. The sad part is that you have no idea why and you will never understand. It must be horrible to be you.

I feel sad for you. Covid has become your identity. It's hard to let one's identity go.