AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, look. Right there on Page 2 of his opinion:

With regard to immunizations, the General Assembly has made clear the immunizations that are required for a student to enroll in an institution of higher education. Under § 23.1-800 of the Code of Virginia, “each student shall be immunized by vaccine against diphtheria, tetanus, poliomyelitis, measles (rubeola), German measles (rubella), and mumps” prior to enrollment “for the first time in any baccalaureate public institution of higher education.”4 Students may not register for a second semester or quarter until they have furnished “documented evidence, provided by a licensed health professional or health facility, of the diseases for which [they] ha[ve] been immunized.”5

Now you twits can stop repeating the lie that "no vaccinations are required."

So others than those. Got it.

You sound like a sulky child who refuses to admit they were wrong.

No the schools can not require vaccines. Miyares has issued his edict.

They can't require *COVID* vaccines, unless/until the General Assembly votes to include it. They CAN - and do - require all of the other listed vaccines.

No his view is they can only require what the GA put in the law. Nothing else, COVID, etc...

That's exactly what the PP just said.

It's a slippery slope. Why require any of the other vaccines?

Idiocy.

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Anonymous wrote:Why? And what next, is he also going to strike down Virginia's other school vaccination requirements? https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter14/section22.1-271.2/

There isn’t a principled basis to keep these vaccine requirements while striking down the covid vaccine requirement, but Miyares is a political creature, not one motivated by sounds legal principles. As long as MAGA isn’t up in arms about the DTaP vaccine, Miyares won’t care.

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Anonymous wrote:Got an email this morning that JMU will no longer require it.

Good. 92% of students there and 91% of employees have already been vaccinated. Same at UVA, etc.

An Omicron-specific booster is going to be needed by everyone in the fall or these colleges are going to have huge Covid outbreaks again. Glad my kid is graduating - fall 2020 at JMU was a disaster.

Meh. Most fully vaccinated and boosted people have had Omicron already. You're comparing apples to oranges.

Of the 6 vaxed and boosted people in our family (which includes 4 college and grad students), only 1 has had Omicron. So, no, that's not true.

(A lot of people I know who I thought were boosted actually were not, and they admitted it after getting pretty sick with Omicron.)

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Anonymous wrote:Got an email this morning that JMU will no longer require it.

Good. 92% of students there and 91% of employees have already been vaccinated. Same at UVA, etc.

An Omicron-specific booster is going to be needed by everyone in the fall or these colleges are going to have huge Covid outbreaks again. Glad my kid is graduating - fall 2020 at JMU was a disaster.

Meh. Most fully vaccinated and boosted people have had Omicron already. You're comparing apples to oranges.

Of the 6 vaxed and boosted people in our family (which includes 4 college and grad students), only 1 has had Omicron. So, no, that's not true.

(A lot of people I know who I thought were boosted actually were not, and they admitted it after getting pretty sick with Omicron.)

+1. I saw an estimate that maybe 40% will get it.

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Anonymous wrote:Got an email this morning that JMU will no longer require it.

Good. 92% of students there and 91% of employees have already been vaccinated. Same at UVA, etc.

An Omicron-specific booster is going to be needed by everyone in the fall or these colleges are going to have huge Covid outbreaks again. Glad my kid is graduating - fall 2020 at JMU was a disaster.

Meh. Most fully vaccinated and boosted people have had Omicron already. You're comparing apples to oranges.

Of the 6 vaxed and boosted people in our family (which includes 4 college and grad students), only 1 has had Omicron. So, no, that's not true.

(A lot of people I know who I thought were boosted actually were not, and they admitted it after getting pretty sick with Omicron.)

+1. With a DS who's commuting to college in DC while living home with us in DC he's the most likely to get it as the rest of us are teleworking. We're all vaxxed and boosted. He gets tested every two weeks and the rest of us more sporadically. None of us have ever tested positive or had any symptoms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why? And what next, is he also going to strike down Virginia's other school vaccination requirements? https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter14/section22.1-271.2/

There isn’t a principled basis to keep these vaccine requirements while striking down the covid vaccine requirement, but Miyares is a political creature, not one motivated by sounds legal principles. As long as MAGA isn’t up in arms about the DTaP vaccine, Miyares won’t care.

There's no principled basis for striking down the COVID requirement. But now that they have, it's a slippery slope and all the rest of the vaccine requirements are at risk to include measles, diptheria, rubella, polio, tetanus, etc....

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Anonymous wrote:Why? And what next, is he also going to strike down Virginia's other school vaccination requirements? https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter14/section22.1-271.2/

Why would he do that? Those requirements are law - voted on by the General Assembly. Do you understand how this works? If the GA votes to include Covid vaccinations, then they'll be required. Get it?

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Anonymous wrote:Why? And what next, is he also going to strike down Virginia's other school vaccination requirements? https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter14/section22.1-271.2/

There isn’t a principled basis to keep these vaccine requirements while striking down the covid vaccine requirement, but Miyares is a political creature, not one motivated by sounds legal principles. As long as MAGA isn’t up in arms about the DTaP vaccine, Miyares won’t care.

So wait - you're saying that vaccine requirements which have been VOTED INTO LAW are somehow equal to a vaccine requirement that HAS NOT been voted into law? Tell you what. Why don't you lobby your VA rep. to vote on making Covid vaccines required by law. Unless/until the General Assembly votes to do this, there is NO LAW that requires Covid vaccines.

Are you people really this dense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Got an email this morning that JMU will no longer require it.

Good. 92% of students there and 91% of employees have already been vaccinated. Same at UVA, etc.

An Omicron-specific booster is going to be needed by everyone in the fall or these colleges are going to have huge Covid outbreaks again. Glad my kid is graduating - fall 2020 at JMU was a disaster.

Meh. Most fully vaccinated and boosted people have had Omicron already. You're comparing apples to oranges.

Of the 6 vaxed and boosted people in our family (which includes 4 college and grad students), only 1 has had Omicron. So, no, that's not true.

(A lot of people I know who I thought were boosted actually were not, and they admitted it after getting pretty sick with Omicron.)

You're actually using a sample size of six to make your case? The point is, most vaxxed people will get Omicron at some point. If they've been boosted, it'll likely be very mild. If they've been vaxxed, they won't be that sick. If you've got your booster, then why do you care what other people choose to do?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why? And what next, is he also going to strike down Virginia's other school vaccination requirements? https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter14/section22.1-271.2/

There isn’t a principled basis to keep these vaccine requirements while striking down the covid vaccine requirement, but Miyares is a political creature, not one motivated by sounds legal principles. As long as MAGA isn’t up in arms about the DTaP vaccine, Miyares won’t care.

There's no principled basis for striking down the COVID requirement. But now that they have, it's a slippery slope and all the rest of the vaccine requirements are at risk to include measles, diptheria, rubella, polio, tetanus, etc....

No, they're not. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE LAW. The Covid requirement is not. I'll keep repeating this as often as you keep repeating your utterly ridiculous claims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Got an email this morning that JMU will no longer require it.

Good. 92% of students there and 91% of employees have already been vaccinated. Same at UVA, etc.

An Omicron-specific booster is going to be needed by everyone in the fall or these colleges are going to have huge Covid outbreaks again. Glad my kid is graduating - fall 2020 at JMU was a disaster.

Meh. Most fully vaccinated and boosted people have had Omicron already. You're comparing apples to oranges.

Do you know what "most" means? Clearly not. Citation please.

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Anonymous wrote:Got an email this morning that JMU will no longer require it.

Good. 92% of students there and 91% of employees have already been vaccinated. Same at UVA, etc.

Agreed. It’s ridiculous to mandate the vaccine at this point. Thank goodness Miyares took action.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Got an email this morning that JMU will no longer require it.

Good. 92% of students there and 91% of employees have already been vaccinated. Same at UVA, etc.

Agreed. It’s ridiculous to mandate the vaccine at this point. Thank goodness Miyares took action.

So what happens next fall/winter when everyone’s vaccine has worn off and not everyone goes and gets a new one, and the latest variant is running rampant? (Hopefully that doesn’t happen but I have no faith that this thing is going to end anytime soon). It’s going to create a whole mess for universities. Can’t wait to try to run in person classes with students out sick or quarantining all the time, asking if they can attend via Zoom (no our classrooms are not outfitted for this) and make up work that can’t be easily recreated online. In person campus events will get cancelled too if a bunch of people are sick. Oh and then there’s the students who will no longer feel comfortable attending class but the university will tell us to “accommodate” then (with no explanation of what that means) so they don’t lose tuition money. I love when these decisions get made by people who don’t have to deal with the fallout. If in person education is so important (which I believe it is) maybe don’t make decisions that make it harder to do.

[Anonymous]

How do vaccines get added to the list of mandated vaccinations?

Does VDH regularly update the list and that gets passed by the GA?

[Anonymous]

I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.