If you spend 20K+ a year on clothing for yourself...

[Anonymous]

How is this any different than people who have very expensive cars, multiple expensive houses that don't get much use, private school education etc. We live in America--we have to acknowledge that most of are goods are made by people making slave wages. No one has a leg to stand on in this fight. We're all wasteful to different degrees and in different ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Different people have their ego tied to different things. Some people it’s cars, some it’s their kitchen appliances/gadgets, some it’s their clothes. One PP’s ego gets stroked when someone notices her mink. Others love to know they are carrying an expensive or very trendy bag. OP’s ego is tied to her clothes and perhaps the concierge shopping experience itself. Whatever. Some egos are more expensive to satisfy than others.

My ego isn't stroked because it's a mink, it's that it's such a beautiful coat! I like clothes that are different that other people don't have.

Ugh, I have no issue with OP or anyone spending $20k on clothes, but I do judge people buying new fur anything. Thankfully it seems like the appetite for new fur is dying out among the younger generation so hopefully that industry goes the way of the fax machine.

[Anonymous]

To go on a forum like this, where you have people who may live paycheck to paycheck, or are even normal middle class, and even ask this question is pretty distasteful. I’m sure you have others with your same “problems” to discuss this with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$20k is not a lot if you’re buying certain brands and high-quality pieces. Everyone on this forum purports to have a high six or even seven-figure income. Why are people running for the smelling salts over this?

Agree. Higher end brands it would be gone in no time. Just run of the mill Nordstrom or the like at full price, many people would hit the mark without acknowledging it, if they are dedicated shoppers. $1000 a month plus some splurges it's $20K easy. Not me, but I'm not scandalized, either. Most people don't budget or total this spending.

This. I am not rich -- make about 95k, single, no kids -- but I probably spend 12-15k, maybe more, a year -- and that's at lower-end stores like Target, Venus, Loft, WHBM, Macy's, and Nordstrom. And I don't buy expensive shoes or purses. I just like aesthetically pleasing stuff and the thrill of the hunt.

[Anonymous]

This thread is so shallow. Sad that you have to spend so much on clothes to feel good.

[Anonymous]

This is fun for me, so without reading all the replies, I'm going to think how this would work without actually just buying, like, 200+ pieces of clothing every year.

Everything high-end.

2 Bags-- $4000
3 pair shoes, 2 pair boots-- $3500
3 pair sandals/flats-- $500
2 pieces outerwear-- $2000
1 gown-- $750
2 cocktail dresses-- $1000
1 suit-- $750
2 pair pants-- $500
3 pair jeans-- $500
2 sweaters-- $500
4 blouses-- $750
4 skirts/jumpsuits/rompers/vests-- $750
2 swimsuits + coverup + flip-flops-- $500
2 items casual outerwear (hoodies, etc.)-- $250
6 very casual clothes items (dresses, shorts, tees, etc.)-- $500
4 items athletic wear-- $250
2 pair athletic shoes, 3 items among athletic bras/accessories-- $500
3 bras/8 panties-- $500
2 robes/other lingerie-- $250
2 sleepwear-- $250
6 socks/2 hosiery/2 hats/1 belt-- $500
6 costume jewelry/accessories/winter accessories-- $750

I feel I'm forgetting some things (not counting fine jewelry), but that's $20 large, right there.

Like, that's a fair number of clothing items, but like maybe 50 plus 15 accessories or something (I'm not going to count).

It's still obscene IMO, especially if you're not high-profile and expected to dress a certain way.

But if it were me, and I do love to shop, I could see buying this much in a year-- especially since I recently lost weight.

Of course, for me, it would be like...

2 Bags-- $75
3 pair shoes, 2 pair boots-- $200
3 pair sandals/flats-- $100
2 pieces outerwear-- $250
1 gown-- $100
2 cocktail dresses-- $150
1 suit-- $200
2 pair pants-- $100
3 pair jeans-- $200
2 sweaters-- $100
4 blouses-- $200
4 skirts/jumpsuits/rompers/vests-- $150
2 swimsuits + coverup + flip-flops-- $100
2 items casual outerwear (hoodies, etc.)-- $75
6 very casual clothes items (dresses, shorts, tees, etc.)-- $100
4 items athletic wear-- $100
2 pair athletic shoes, 3 items among athletic bras/accessories-- $250
3 bras/8 panties-- $150
2 robes/other lingerie-- $50
2 sleepwear-- $50
6 socks/2 hosiery/2 hats/1 belt-- $100
6 costume jewelry/accessories/winter accessories-- $100

Let's see, that's... $2900 LMAO I have never spent that much on clothing in one year in my LIFE. I do love clothes and I'm trying to select fewer, nicer items (the above numbers are for decent items on clearance), but, uh... I probably spend $1200/year in reality. Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is fun for me, so without reading all the replies, I'm going to think how this would work without actually just buying, like, 200+ pieces of clothing every year.

Everything high-end.

2 Bags-- $4000
3 pair shoes, 2 pair boots-- $3500
3 pair sandals/flats-- $500
2 pieces outerwear-- $2000
1 gown-- $750
2 cocktail dresses-- $1000
1 suit-- $750
2 pair pants-- $500
3 pair jeans-- $500
2 sweaters-- $500
4 blouses-- $750
4 skirts/jumpsuits/rompers/vests-- $750
2 swimsuits + coverup + flip-flops-- $500
2 items casual outerwear (hoodies, etc.)-- $250
6 very casual clothes items (dresses, shorts, tees, etc.)-- $500
4 items athletic wear-- $250
2 pair athletic shoes, 3 items among athletic bras/accessories-- $500
3 bras/8 panties-- $500
2 robes/other lingerie-- $250
2 sleepwear-- $250
6 socks/2 hosiery/2 hats/1 belt-- $500
6 costume jewelry/accessories/winter accessories-- $750

I feel I'm forgetting some things (not counting fine jewelry), but that's $20 large, right there.

Like, that's a fair number of clothing items, but like maybe 50 plus 15 accessories or something (I'm not going to count).

It's still obscene IMO, especially if you're not high-profile and expected to dress a certain way.

But if it were me, and I do love to shop, I could see buying this much in a year-- especially since I recently lost weight.

Of course, for me, it would be like...

2 Bags-- $75
3 pair shoes, 2 pair boots-- $200
3 pair sandals/flats-- $100
2 pieces outerwear-- $250
1 gown-- $100
2 cocktail dresses-- $150
1 suit-- $200
2 pair pants-- $100
3 pair jeans-- $200
2 sweaters-- $100
4 blouses-- $200
4 skirts/jumpsuits/rompers/vests-- $150
2 swimsuits + coverup + flip-flops-- $100
2 items casual outerwear (hoodies, etc.)-- $75
6 very casual clothes items (dresses, shorts, tees, etc.)-- $100
4 items athletic wear-- $100
2 pair athletic shoes, 3 items among athletic bras/accessories-- $250
3 bras/8 panties-- $150
2 robes/other lingerie-- $50
2 sleepwear-- $50
6 socks/2 hosiery/2 hats/1 belt-- $100
6 costume jewelry/accessories/winter accessories-- $100

Let's see, that's... $2900 LMAO I have never spent that much on clothing in one year in my LIFE. I do love clothes and I'm trying to select fewer, nicer items (the above numbers are for decent items on clearance), but, uh... I probably spend $1200/year in reality. Wow.

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Love this!!! Thanks for putting this in perspective.

[Anonymous]

It’s not hard to get to 20K and it’s not just about ego (though I’m sure that’s part of it).

As an example, I bought new pajama this winter and ended up getting three sets of silk pajamas (pink, gray, and black) at 300 / each, and two sets of cashmere pajamas (blue, black) at 400 / each. They’re luxurious and make me happy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not hard to get to 20K and it’s not just about ego (though I’m sure that’s part of it).

As an example, I bought new pajama this winter and ended up getting three sets of silk pajamas (pink, gray, and black) at 300 / each, and two sets of cashmere pajamas (blue, black) at 400 / each. They’re luxurious and make me happy!

Of course it’s your ego. “I simply must have cashmere pjs because I’m me!” At least own it like Mink PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
How is this any different than people who have very expensive cars, multiple expensive houses that don't get much use, private school education etc. We live in America--we have to acknowledge that most of are goods are made by people making slave wages. No one has a leg to stand on in this fight. We're all wasteful to different degrees and in different ways.

Who is saying it’s different than the examples you give?

Are you saying there is no difference between the American who buys three t-shirts made in the Philippines rather than two and the American who buys three houses instead of two? Or three expensive cars instead of two?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not hard to get to 20K and it’s not just about ego (though I’m sure that’s part of it).

As an example, I bought new pajama this winter and ended up getting three sets of silk pajamas (pink, gray, and black) at 300 / each, and two sets of cashmere pajamas (blue, black) at 400 / each. They’re luxurious and make me happy!

Of course it’s your ego. “I simply must have cashmere pjs because I’m me!” At least own it like Mink PP.

The mink PP said it was a "statement piece." Yep, it's a statement all right..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Serious question: how much do you donate to charity each year?

Very little and that will not change. I spend my money on ME and an unapologetic about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so shallow. Sad that you have to spend so much on clothes to feel good.

Look at what you did to "feel good." Pot meet kettle.

[Anonymous]

You all remind me of the people on Facebook that comment on ads saying things are too expensive. I don’t have 20k to spend on clothes each year but no judgment from me if op does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is fun for me, so without reading all the replies, I'm going to think how this would work without actually just buying, like, 200+ pieces of clothing every year.

Everything high-end.

2 Bags-- $4000
3 pair shoes, 2 pair boots-- $3500
3 pair sandals/flats-- $500
2 pieces outerwear-- $2000
1 gown-- $750
2 cocktail dresses-- $1000
1 suit-- $750
2 pair pants-- $500
3 pair jeans-- $500
2 sweaters-- $500
4 blouses-- $750
4 skirts/jumpsuits/rompers/vests-- $750
2 swimsuits + coverup + flip-flops-- $500
2 items casual outerwear (hoodies, etc.)-- $250
6 very casual clothes items (dresses, shorts, tees, etc.)-- $500
4 items athletic wear-- $250
2 pair athletic shoes, 3 items among athletic bras/accessories-- $500
3 bras/8 panties-- $500
2 robes/other lingerie-- $250
2 sleepwear-- $250
6 socks/2 hosiery/2 hats/1 belt-- $500
6 costume jewelry/accessories/winter accessories-- $750

I feel I'm forgetting some things (not counting fine jewelry), but that's $20 large, right there.

Like, that's a fair number of clothing items, but like maybe 50 plus 15 accessories or something (I'm not going to count).

It's still obscene IMO, especially if you're not high-profile and expected to dress a certain way.

But if it were me, and I do love to shop, I could see buying this much in a year-- especially since I recently lost weight.

Of course, for me, it would be like...

2 Bags-- $75
3 pair shoes, 2 pair boots-- $200
3 pair sandals/flats-- $100
2 pieces outerwear-- $250
1 gown-- $100
2 cocktail dresses-- $150
1 suit-- $200
2 pair pants-- $100
3 pair jeans-- $200
2 sweaters-- $100
4 blouses-- $200
4 skirts/jumpsuits/rompers/vests-- $150
2 swimsuits + coverup + flip-flops-- $100
2 items casual outerwear (hoodies, etc.)-- $75
6 very casual clothes items (dresses, shorts, tees, etc.)-- $100
4 items athletic wear-- $100
2 pair athletic shoes, 3 items among athletic bras/accessories-- $250
3 bras/8 panties-- $150
2 robes/other lingerie-- $50
2 sleepwear-- $50
6 socks/2 hosiery/2 hats/1 belt-- $100
6 costume jewelry/accessories/winter accessories-- $100

Let's see, that's... $2900 LMAO I have never spent that much on clothing in one year in my LIFE. I do love clothes and I'm trying to select fewer, nicer items (the above numbers are for decent items on clearance), but, uh... I probably spend $1200/year in reality. Wow.

Love this!!! Thanks for putting this in perspective.

Yeah, it's interesting!

Upon a recount, it's like... 6 items + a couple of smaller accessories a month? That's not shopaholism, to me.

And I think I captured most of the prices pretty accurately and reasonably-- $500 each for high end shoes, average $2000 for a high end bag (not Hermes!), $160 for a pair of jeans, $150+ for running shoes, $180 for a nice blouse or skirt, $85 for a casual dress or nice shorts, $125 for nice PJs, $60 for leggings...

It's HIGH, but it's not so wild when you break it down.

I:

-love fashion
-love to shop
-am a bargain hunter and
-am socialist-leaning

So I see the problematics here, but also can totally see how it breaks down and seems "reasonable."

If I think just in terms of the sheer amount of clothing I buy in a year (on the low end, because I haven't shopped in person much since COVID, except at the thrift since summer)...

-I will totally go to the thrift store on average once a month and get 1-2 items for myself (mostly shop for my kid)
-Old Navy or H&M or similar, average 4 items x 4 times a year
-Clearance shop Revolve or similar 6 items, 1x/year
-Vintage store or eBay/Etsy 3 items 2x/year
-Discount/designer store like TJ Maxx or Filene's (RIP!!!!!!) 3 items 2x/year
-DSW or online shoe shopping (including running shoes) 2 items 2x/year
-Outerwear, accessories, bags someplace 2 items 3x/year
-Bras and swimwear and so on, 2 items 2x/year
-Special shopping trip for some special event, 3 items 2x/year

Let me add that up and it's... wow, it's 66-78 items per year! It's basically the same as my hypothetical rich person!

And all that looks like is basically...

In an average month:

-1-2 items at the thrift store plus
-One trip to another store to buy 2-4 items

Plus, per year:

-1 online shopping "spree" (6 items)
-2 trips to shop for a special event and buy like 3 items (dress, shoes, accessory)

That's... more items than many people buy, but not really so outrageous IMO.

Huh.

Well, that's enough procrastinating, lol. Back to work.