Barnard is Barnard, not Columbia!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia doesn’t give this breakdown but does anyone have the demographic breakdown to compare Barnard vs Columbia girls?

I assume Barnard is whiter, less Asian and black. Dunno about Jewish women — equal between the two?

Columbia is more racially diverse but Barnard has more income diversity.

Thanks. Interesting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean it’s not like there is another Barnard in Ohio or Florida. No one would be confused so adding the Columbia on social media or in conversation does strike me name dropping as odd as that is considering it’s CU and not YPSM.

+1. No one gives a flying f*ck about the difference between Barnard and Columbia. They're both absolute sh*t schools that are nowhere near HYPSM. Columbia is closest to Duke, Brown, Chicago, and Dartmouth. It should never be in the same conversation as HYPSM, the five schools that are truly elite unlike some imposter like Columbia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean it’s not like there is another Barnard in Ohio or Florida. No one would be confused so adding the Columbia on social media or in conversation does strike me name dropping as odd as that is considering it’s CU and not YPSM.

+1. No one gives a flying f*ck about the difference between Barnard and Columbia. They're both absolute sh*t schools that are nowhere near HYPSM. Columbia is closest to Duke, Brown, Chicago, and Dartmouth. It should never be in the same conversation as HYPSM, the five schools that are truly elite unlike some imposter like Columbia.

LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean it’s not like there is another Barnard in Ohio or Florida. No one would be confused so adding the Columbia on social media or in conversation does strike me name dropping as odd as that is considering it’s CU and not YPSM.

+1. No one gives a flying f*ck about the difference between Barnard and Columbia. They're both absolute sh*t schools that are nowhere near HYPSM. Columbia is closest to Duke, Brown, Chicago, and Dartmouth. It should never be in the same conversation as HYPSM, the five schools that are truly elite unlike some imposter like Columbia.

LOL.

The "LOL" by the way is because you are so clearly unhinged and divorced from reality. Weird hate-obsession you've got there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean it’s not like there is another Barnard in Ohio or Florida. No one would be confused so adding the Columbia on social media or in conversation does strike me name dropping as odd as that is considering it’s CU and not YPSM.

+1. No one gives a flying f*ck about the difference between Barnard and Columbia. They're both absolute sh*t schools that are nowhere near HYPSM. Columbia is closest to Duke, Brown, Chicago, and Dartmouth. It should never be in the same conversation as HYPSM, the five schools that are truly elite unlike some imposter like Columbia.

crazy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s the same issue you run into with Harvard Extension School. The name confers expectations around selectivity and academic achievement— “vetting,” to put it shortly. The admission standards are different and more lenient. If you say you went to Columbia when you actually went to Barnard, you’re being duplicitous.

The Columbia booster is trying this line again? Harvard Extension School students have a degree in “extension studies,” not a BA.

In contrast, Barnard undergrads have a BA from Columbia, just like the School of General Studies undergrads. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Columbia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the same issue you run into with Harvard Extension School. The name confers expectations around selectivity and academic achievement— “vetting,” to put it shortly. The admission standards are different and more lenient. If you say you went to Columbia when you actually went to Barnard, you’re being duplicitous.

The Columbia booster is trying this line again? Harvard Extension School students have a degree in “extension studies,” not a BA.

In contrast, Barnard undergrads have a BA from Columbia, just like the School of General Studies undergrads. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Columbia.

You are crazy if you think Harvard extension students are not Harvard legit students. It's extremely rigorous work bc courses are identical to the actual Harvard classes taught by the same Harvard professors. It's laughable when people put Harvard down when regular Harvard students are just as good - and on par - as extension students.


https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2021/10/7/extension-school-scrut/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2N7Gv0MdY

[Anonymous]

If the Barnard girl plays a sport (which means wearing a Columbia uniform), is she allowed to say she plays for Columbia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the Barnard girl plays a sport (which means wearing a Columbia uniform), is she allowed to say she plays for Columbia?

Don't be embarrassed and just say I go to Barnard.

[Anonymous]

I do not think Barnard is the same as going to Columbia. I do believe based on the statements in this thread that if the Barnard students play on the same athletic team as Columbia students and they all play in the same league (because how could they not) then those Barnard students are playing in the Ivy League.

Now. the Ivy League has come to mean more than an athletic conference, but it is a concept in people's mind so how do you define the edges of a concept like that?

If what people are trying to communicate with the term "ivy league " is that a particular student completed the admissions gauntlet and won a lottery ticket to a school then admissions to Barnard is not admissions to Columbia.

The Harvard Extension discussion is interesting but given there are zero entry requirements I think it is not the same as someone earning a Harvard BA and also less "prestigious" than a Barnard BA.

[Anonymous]

I know a bunch of people with PhDs from Columbia but I have never heard of Barnard until now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not think Barnard is the same as going to Columbia. I do believe based on the statements in this thread that if the Barnard students play on the same athletic team as Columbia students and they all play in the same league (because how could they not) then those Barnard students are playing in the Ivy League.

Now. the Ivy League has come to mean more than an athletic conference, but it is a concept in people's mind so how do you define the edges of a concept like that?

If what people are trying to communicate with the term "ivy league " is that a particular student completed the admissions gauntlet and won a lottery ticket to a school then admissions to Barnard is not admissions to Columbia.

The Harvard Extension discussion is interesting but given there are zero entry requirements I think it is not the same as someone earning a Harvard BA and also less "prestigious" than a Barnard BA.

Well is Columbia General Studies considered Ivy of we use your criterion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not think Barnard is the same as going to Columbia. I do believe based on the statements in this thread that if the Barnard students play on the same athletic team as Columbia students and they all play in the same league (because how could they not) then those Barnard students are playing in the Ivy League.

Now. the Ivy League has come to mean more than an athletic conference, but it is a concept in people's mind so how do you define the edges of a concept like that?

If what people are trying to communicate with the term "ivy league " is that a particular student completed the admissions gauntlet and won a lottery ticket to a school then admissions to Barnard is not admissions to Columbia.

The Harvard Extension discussion is interesting but given there are zero entry requirements I think it is not the same as someone earning a Harvard BA and also less "prestigious" than a Barnard BA.

Well is Columbia General Studies considered Ivy of we use your criterion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not think Barnard is the same as going to Columbia. I do believe based on the statements in this thread that if the Barnard students play on the same athletic team as Columbia students and they all play in the same league (because how could they not) then those Barnard students are playing in the Ivy League.

Now. the Ivy League has come to mean more than an athletic conference, but it is a concept in people's mind so how do you define the edges of a concept like that?

If what people are trying to communicate with the term "ivy league " is that a particular student completed the admissions gauntlet and won a lottery ticket to a school then admissions to Barnard is not admissions to Columbia.

The Harvard Extension discussion is interesting but given there are zero entry requirements I think it is not the same as someone earning a Harvard BA and also less "prestigious" than a Barnard BA.

The bold is laughable. Harvard extension degrees and their many 2-week certificate programs derive their prestige from Harvard. As someone said, Harvard students are just as good as Harvard extension students. They run circles around 2nd tier college students - Vandy, U of ND, USC, BU, BC, Northwestern, Emory, WashU - any day. Harvard is Harvard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think Barnard is the same as going to Columbia. I do believe based on the statements in this thread that if the Barnard students play on the same athletic team as Columbia students and they all play in the same league (because how could they not) then those Barnard students are playing in the Ivy League.

Now. the Ivy League has come to mean more than an athletic conference, but it is a concept in people's mind so how do you define the edges of a concept like that?

If what people are trying to communicate with the term "ivy league " is that a particular student completed the admissions gauntlet and won a lottery ticket to a school then admissions to Barnard is not admissions to Columbia.

The Harvard Extension discussion is interesting but given there are zero entry requirements I think it is not the same as someone earning a Harvard BA and also less "prestigious" than a Barnard BA.

The bold is laughable. Harvard extension degrees and their many 2-week certificate programs derive their prestige from Harvard. As someone said, Harvard students are just as good as Harvard extension students. They run circles around 2nd tier college students - Vandy, U of ND, USC, BU, BC, Northwestern, Emory, WashU - any day. Harvard is Harvard.

I was referring to the article in the Crimson about the start of the Harvard Extension program, which is interesting, and there are students that use it to get degree requirements met so it is not just certificates for two week classes, but it is also, as I note, not the equivalent of a Harvard BA. I am not sure what exactly is laughable about what was stated. A student at Barnard did not (and may not have wanted to) get into Columbia (or Harvard). They did get into a very selective college which is, in fact, more of an accomplishment than getting into Harvard Extension.