Bus issues solution.. maybe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Idea that gifted kids are all well behaved is a screaming farce.

And I agree that busing should be prioritized for families who are least likely to have their own transportation or the time to drive their kids to school

Nope. Please reflect on the difference between ‘most’ and ‘in general’ and ‘all.’

There are some incredibly poorly behaved magnet kids. Spectacular.
In general, they are far, far better behaved than children other classes. This is a fact. Ask any teacher who works with them. Ask your MS or HS magnet kids which classes are usually on task and learning the most - magnet or general.

I am kind of tired of people pretending that they are so humble and their magnet kids are just like other kids and magnet schools are ‘just like’ other schools. This is really just not true and you undermine why the classes are so important. We’ve through a few magnet schools here in MCPS. They are kids. They are unique. They are also generally far better behaved.

ALSO - most (not all!) magnet kids are middle class at our school. Working parents. They do really need the bus support.

Agree with this. Some kids are also being bused very far distances to attend programs, and they would not be able to attend without the bus at all due to parent work arrangements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Idea that gifted kids are all well behaved is a screaming farce.

And I agree that busing should be prioritized for families who are least likely to have their own transportation or the time to drive their kids to school

Nope. Please reflect on the difference between ‘most’ and ‘in general’ and ‘all.’

There are some incredibly poorly behaved magnet kids. Spectacular.
In general, they are far, far better behaved than children other classes. This is a fact. Ask any teacher who works with them. Ask your MS or HS magnet kids which classes are usually on task and learning the most - magnet or general.

I am kind of tired of people pretending that they are so humble and their magnet kids are just like other kids and magnet schools are ‘just like’ other schools. This is really just not true and you undermine why the classes are so important. We’ve through a few magnet schools here in MCPS. They are kids. They are unique. They are also generally far better behaved.

ALSO - most (not all!) magnet kids are middle class at our school. Working parents. They do really need the bus support.

Like the idea of prioritizing the less affluent areas. In more affluent areas, schools could have parents sign up if they absolutely need bus service, and a smaller number of busses could run a longer route customized to real need in the next few weeks (similar routes to the activities busses they already have in place). If timing is a problem, they could ask kids who need bus service to walk farther to catch the one/few busses (so not bus stops every few blocks as we usually have, but kids can walk up to a mile to catch the bus... just for a few weeks.

National guard is a bad idea unless you can quickly put them through background checks required for anyone who has student contact. But montgomery county could also adjust ride on routes to match needs of schools and parents could voluntarily opt in to using ride on rather than school-provided transportation or carpooling at their discretion.

We live in an affluent area. We are able to do so because we are a dual income family who work our butts off and manage our finances carefully, including sending our children to public schools where bussing is included.

Robbing the upper middle class to feed the poor would be a toe hold for the far left that won't be easily relinquished.

As far as I know, Montgomery County has been providing free ride on busses to students throughout the pandemic. The rational choice would be to take busses from areas with free ride-on busses rather than taking busses from the upper middle class.

You people are truly insane.

So you’re going to put elementary students on Ride-On buses alone?

Ride on bus also having issues with driver shortages.

https://patch.com/maryland/rockville/ride-bus-service-reducing-sunday-due-driver-shortage

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Idea that gifted kids are all well behaved is a screaming farce.

And I agree that busing should be prioritized for families who are least likely to have their own transportation or the time to drive their kids to school

Nope. Please reflect on the difference between ‘most’ and ‘in general’ and ‘all.’

There are some incredibly poorly behaved magnet kids. Spectacular.
In general, they are far, far better behaved than children other classes. This is a fact. Ask any teacher who works with them. Ask your MS or HS magnet kids which classes are usually on task and learning the most - magnet or general.

I am kind of tired of people pretending that they are so humble and their magnet kids are just like other kids and magnet schools are ‘just like’ other schools. This is really just not true and you undermine why the classes are so important. We’ve through a few magnet schools here in MCPS. They are kids. They are unique. They are also generally far better behaved.

ALSO - most (not all!) magnet kids are middle class at our school. Working parents. They do really need the bus support.

I'm an elementary school special subject teacher and I've taught both magnet and non magnet classes. At the elementary it's been a mixed bag. Some classes are well behaved and others are not. When you a mix of kids who are used to being the smartest kid in the room all together you end up with a lot of power dynamics and kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, what makes you think all the National Guard folks have CDL licenses?

And have they been background checked? God knows enough MCPS molest kids already.

And you care so much about your own world, you don't give a crap about National Guard members who also have real jobs and families at home. Hmmmmmm.....

+1,000

well, lookie here:

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/01/montgomery-co-asks-for-national-guard-help-with-bus-driver-shortages-urges-more-residents-to-get-boosters/

Maybe someone in MCPS read my suggestion. Ha.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, what makes you think all the National Guard folks have CDL licenses?

And have they been background checked? God knows enough MCPS molest kids already.

And you care so much about your own world, you don't give a crap about National Guard members who also have real jobs and families at home. Hmmmmmm.....

+1,000

well, lookie here:

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/01/montgomery-co-asks-for-national-guard-help-with-bus-driver-shortages-urges-more-residents-to-get-boosters/

Maybe someone in MCPS read my suggestion. Ha.

"The National Guard said it currently does not have an active mission to assist."

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/montgomery-county-schools-requests-national-guard-assistance-amid-bus-driver-shortage/65-d6bde44c-93c2-4f5f-8c8b-db0a03fdecb5

Translation: our job is to protect Americans - we're not going to help you flood hospitals with sick kids

[Anonymous]

Ever get the feeling that these in-person types are evil villains, or maybe Russian agents seeking to do harm to us?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ever get the feeling that these in-person types are evil villains, or maybe Russian agents seeking to do harm to us?

No, because I don't have such a myopic view of the world that I can't understand other people can have opinions that aren't exactly my own.

Have you considered a neuropsych evaluation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, what makes you think all the National Guard folks have CDL licenses?

And have they been background checked? God knows enough MCPS molest kids already.

And you care so much about your own world, you don't give a crap about National Guard members who also have real jobs and families at home. Hmmmmmm.....

+1,000

well, lookie here:

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2022/01/montgomery-co-asks-for-national-guard-help-with-bus-driver-shortages-urges-more-residents-to-get-boosters/

Maybe someone in MCPS read my suggestion. Ha.

"The National Guard said it currently does not have an active mission to assist."

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/montgomery-county-schools-requests-national-guard-assistance-amid-bus-driver-shortage/65-d6bde44c-93c2-4f5f-8c8b-db0a03fdecb5

Translation: our job is to protect Americans - we're not going to help you flood hospitals with sick kids

OR - translation: hey, parents, drive your own kids to school. It’s tough to prioritize them when you have that new SUV to pay do - but use it to, you know, take care of the kids you have. Not sure why you think the government owes you a bus ride. Deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ever get the feeling that these in-person types are evil villains, or maybe Russian agents seeking to do harm to us?

No, because I don't have such a myopic view of the world that I can't understand other people can have opinions that aren't exactly my own.

Have you considered a neuropsych evaluation?

Calling in the U.S. Army to bus kids into school, and who exactly needs the neuropsych evaluation?

What's next, forcing the kids to school by gunpoint?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ever get the feeling that these in-person types are evil villains, or maybe Russian agents seeking to do harm to us?

No, because I don't have such a myopic view of the world that I can't understand other people can have opinions that aren't exactly my own.

Have you considered a neuropsych evaluation?

Calling in the U.S. Army to bus kids into school, and who exactly needs the neuropsych evaluation?

What's next, forcing the kids to school by gunpoint?

Ah, first paranoia that foreign forces must be behind differing opinions, then projecting, then histrionics about "what's next."

You're doing great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ever get the feeling that these in-person types are evil villains, or maybe Russian agents seeking to do harm to us?

No, because I don't have such a myopic view of the world that I can't understand other people can have opinions that aren't exactly my own.

Have you considered a neuropsych evaluation?

Calling in the U.S. Army to bus kids into school, and who exactly needs the neuropsych evaluation?

What's next, forcing the kids to school by gunpoint?

Ah, first paranoia that foreign forces must be behind differing opinions, then projecting, then histrionics about "what's next."

You're doing great.

I stay off the Zyr - you should try it sometime

[Anonymous]

Let’s say they did use the National Guard to fill in for bus drivers; what assurances are there that these drivers are patient enough to deal with children, and that they don’t have any background of causing harm to children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s say they did use the National Guard to fill in for bus drivers; what assurances are there that these drivers are patient enough to deal with children, and that they don’t have any background of causing harm to children?

They have better background checks than mcps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s say they did use the National Guard to fill in for bus drivers; what assurances are there that these drivers are patient enough to deal with children, and that they don’t have any background of causing harm to children?

They have better background checks than mcps.

it's a different sort of background check.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will you means test for affluent? And what’s the threshold for affluent? My husband works a swing shift and I’m expected at work by 8 am. We’re not poor but certainly not in a position to afford $500 a week before / after care for our kids and I don’t trust a sitter - not could I necessarily secure one - to drive my kids? Part of what buses offer is a safe, reliable mode of transport.

MCPS has a duty to provide all students access to a Free Appropriate Public Education. Part of access is bus transportation for students if they cannot safely walk to school.

MCPS has breached this responsibility. Someone will step in with an Office of Civil Rights complaint on behalf of all affected students. Even more so when students with disabilities are denied bus transportation to access the support and services they need. OCR sometimes starts their own investigation when they see such problems in the news.

The same people who are screaming about lawyers for schoolbuses are fine having their children repeatedly infected with a messed up novel virus.