Bus issues solution.. maybe

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Anonymous wrote:I think they should drop bussing to magnet programs. Prioritize getting kids to their home schools or special education placement. That would free up busses.

Hell no! I am sick of our gifted children getting shafted time after time. Is it not bad enough we get a subpar building, and NOW you are trying to take our buses?? Our kids are well behaved and we all gift our bus drivers to say thank you. Maybe you should try that and teaching your kids to behave. Magnet kids' buses get left alone. Period.

Parent of a magnet kid here, and if you think all magnet kids are well behaved then you aren't talking to your kid very much. If by "subpar building" you mean Eastern, maybe you should shed a tear for all of the kids who have it as their home school rather than worrying about the magnet kids being somehow specially singled out for a bad facility.

Parent of magnet kids here, too, and give me a break, you know perfectly well they are in general much, much better behaved.

Eh. The girls are maybe. But the wildest behaviour issues my child has described across three separate magnet programs has been from boys in various magnet classes. Eloping, throwing things, bullying other kids, and terrible terrible bus behaviour.

[Anonymous]

Idea that gifted kids are all well behaved is a screaming farce.

And I agree that busing should be prioritized for families who are least likely to have their own transportation or the time to drive their kids to school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you people understand WHY there is no bus service? It's because the people you entrust your children to, the ones who operate several tons of bus every school day, are too sick and too contagious to do their jobs.

I'd think this would drop a penny of at least compassion for you, if not the concern that hey, maybe something's really wrong here? But no.

We all have covid too, pp. But we got vaccinated and boostered so it's a cold. If bus drivers aren't vaccinated I have zero compassion. That's right.

All mcps employees were required to be vaccinated which might have led to some of the shortages if bus drivers quit so they did not have to get vaccinated but either way if you are sick you still have to quarantine regardless of vaccine status

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:National guard.

That ought to keep the kids in line.

MY DS would love a ride on the personnel carrier, other kids may be not so much

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Idea that gifted kids are all well behaved is a screaming farce.

And I agree that busing should be prioritized for families who are least likely to have their own transportation or the time to drive their kids to school

Nope. Please reflect on the difference between ‘most’ and ‘in general’ and ‘all.’

There are some incredibly poorly behaved magnet kids. Spectacular.
In general, they are far, far better behaved than children other classes. This is a fact. Ask any teacher who works with them. Ask your MS or HS magnet kids which classes are usually on task and learning the most - magnet or general.

I am kind of tired of people pretending that they are so humble and their magnet kids are just like other kids and magnet schools are ‘just like’ other schools. This is really just not true and you undermine why the classes are so important. We’ve through a few magnet schools here in MCPS. They are kids. They are unique. They are also generally far better behaved.

ALSO - most (not all!) magnet kids are middle class at our school. Working parents. They do really need the bus support.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Idea that gifted kids are all well behaved is a screaming farce.

And I agree that busing should be prioritized for families who are least likely to have their own transportation or the time to drive their kids to school

Nope. Please reflect on the difference between ‘most’ and ‘in general’ and ‘all.’

There are some incredibly poorly behaved magnet kids. Spectacular.
In general, they are far, far better behaved than children other classes. This is a fact. Ask any teacher who works with them. Ask your MS or HS magnet kids which classes are usually on task and learning the most - magnet or general.

I am kind of tired of people pretending that they are so humble and their magnet kids are just like other kids and magnet schools are ‘just like’ other schools. This is really just not true and you undermine why the classes are so important. We’ve through a few magnet schools here in MCPS. They are kids. They are unique. They are also generally far better behaved.

ALSO - most (not all!) magnet kids are middle class at our school. Working parents. They do really need the bus support.

I would direct you to the post that folks are responding to, in which PP says, "Our kids are well behaved and we all gift our bus drivers to say thank you. "

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Idea that gifted kids are all well behaved is a screaming farce.

And I agree that busing should be prioritized for families who are least likely to have their own transportation or the time to drive their kids to school

Nope. Please reflect on the difference between ‘most’ and ‘in general’ and ‘all.’

There are some incredibly poorly behaved magnet kids. Spectacular.
In general, they are far, far better behaved than children other classes. This is a fact. Ask any teacher who works with them. Ask your MS or HS magnet kids which classes are usually on task and learning the most - magnet or general.

I am kind of tired of people pretending that they are so humble and their magnet kids are just like other kids and magnet schools are ‘just like’ other schools. This is really just not true and you undermine why the classes are so important. We’ve through a few magnet schools here in MCPS. They are kids. They are unique. They are also generally far better behaved.

ALSO - most (not all!) magnet kids are middle class at our school. Working parents. They do really need the bus support.

Like the idea of prioritizing the less affluent areas. In more affluent areas, schools could have parents sign up if they absolutely need bus service, and a smaller number of busses could run a longer route customized to real need in the next few weeks (similar routes to the activities busses they already have in place). If timing is a problem, they could ask kids who need bus service to walk farther to catch the one/few busses (so not bus stops every few blocks as we usually have, but kids can walk up to a mile to catch the bus... just for a few weeks.

National guard is a bad idea unless you can quickly put them through background checks required for anyone who has student contact. But montgomery county could also adjust ride on routes to match needs of schools and parents could voluntarily opt in to using ride on rather than school-provided transportation or carpooling at their discretion.

[Anonymous]

It's disappointing that MCPS cannot even get the list of impacted busses right. My child's bus was not listed as being impacted this morning but did not show up. When I called the bus depot, I was told the bus was indeed not coming. The bus number is still not on the updated list at this time. I contacted the principal of my child's school, who agreed that the bus is indeed not running but is still not on the list of impacted busses. So we cannot even get reliable information about busses that are not running. Frustrating!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think they should drop bussing to magnet programs. Prioritize getting kids to their home schools or special education placement. That would free up busses.

I agree. I also think they can drop routes to high schools when the same route is well served by public transportation.

Not saying that's ideal, but it's the best of the bad solutions.

Interesting idea as a temporary fix, but would it work for the more exurban areas upcounty?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Idea that gifted kids are all well behaved is a screaming farce.

And I agree that busing should be prioritized for families who are least likely to have their own transportation or the time to drive their kids to school

Nope. Please reflect on the difference between ‘most’ and ‘in general’ and ‘all.’

There are some incredibly poorly behaved magnet kids. Spectacular.
In general, they are far, far better behaved than children other classes. This is a fact. Ask any teacher who works with them. Ask your MS or HS magnet kids which classes are usually on task and learning the most - magnet or general.

I am kind of tired of people pretending that they are so humble and their magnet kids are just like other kids and magnet schools are ‘just like’ other schools. This is really just not true and you undermine why the classes are so important. We’ve through a few magnet schools here in MCPS. They are kids. They are unique. They are also generally far better behaved.

ALSO - most (not all!) magnet kids are middle class at our school. Working parents. They do really need the bus support.

Like the idea of prioritizing the less affluent areas. In more affluent areas, schools could have parents sign up if they absolutely need bus service, and a smaller number of busses could run a longer route customized to real need in the next few weeks (similar routes to the activities busses they already have in place). If timing is a problem, they could ask kids who need bus service to walk farther to catch the one/few busses (so not bus stops every few blocks as we usually have, but kids can walk up to a mile to catch the bus... just for a few weeks.

National guard is a bad idea unless you can quickly put them through background checks required for anyone who has student contact. But montgomery county could also adjust ride on routes to match needs of schools and parents could voluntarily opt in to using ride on rather than school-provided transportation or carpooling at their discretion.

We live in an affluent area. We are able to do so because we are a dual income family who work our butts off and manage our finances carefully, including sending our children to public schools where bussing is included.

Robbing the upper middle class to feed the poor would be a toe hold for the far left that won't be easily relinquished.

As far as I know, Montgomery County has been providing free ride on busses to students throughout the pandemic. The rational choice would be to take busses from areas with free ride-on busses rather than taking busses from the upper middle class.

You people are truly insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Idea that gifted kids are all well behaved is a screaming farce.

And I agree that busing should be prioritized for families who are least likely to have their own transportation or the time to drive their kids to school

Nope. Please reflect on the difference between ‘most’ and ‘in general’ and ‘all.’

There are some incredibly poorly behaved magnet kids. Spectacular.
In general, they are far, far better behaved than children other classes. This is a fact. Ask any teacher who works with them. Ask your MS or HS magnet kids which classes are usually on task and learning the most - magnet or general.

I am kind of tired of people pretending that they are so humble and their magnet kids are just like other kids and magnet schools are ‘just like’ other schools. This is really just not true and you undermine why the classes are so important. We’ve through a few magnet schools here in MCPS. They are kids. They are unique. They are also generally far better behaved.

ALSO - most (not all!) magnet kids are middle class at our school. Working parents. They do really need the bus support.

Like the idea of prioritizing the less affluent areas. In more affluent areas, schools could have parents sign up if they absolutely need bus service, and a smaller number of busses could run a longer route customized to real need in the next few weeks (similar routes to the activities busses they already have in place). If timing is a problem, they could ask kids who need bus service to walk farther to catch the one/few busses (so not bus stops every few blocks as we usually have, but kids can walk up to a mile to catch the bus... just for a few weeks.

National guard is a bad idea unless you can quickly put them through background checks required for anyone who has student contact. But montgomery county could also adjust ride on routes to match needs of schools and parents could voluntarily opt in to using ride on rather than school-provided transportation or carpooling at their discretion.

You think the National Guard doesn't do background checks????
They do more thorough background checks than MCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Idea that gifted kids are all well behaved is a screaming farce.

And I agree that busing should be prioritized for families who are least likely to have their own transportation or the time to drive their kids to school

Nope. Please reflect on the difference between ‘most’ and ‘in general’ and ‘all.’

There are some incredibly poorly behaved magnet kids. Spectacular.
In general, they are far, far better behaved than children other classes. This is a fact. Ask any teacher who works with them. Ask your MS or HS magnet kids which classes are usually on task and learning the most - magnet or general.

I am kind of tired of people pretending that they are so humble and their magnet kids are just like other kids and magnet schools are ‘just like’ other schools. This is really just not true and you undermine why the classes are so important. We’ve through a few magnet schools here in MCPS. They are kids. They are unique. They are also generally far better behaved.

ALSO - most (not all!) magnet kids are middle class at our school. Working parents. They do really need the bus support.

Like the idea of prioritizing the less affluent areas. In more affluent areas, schools could have parents sign up if they absolutely need bus service, and a smaller number of busses could run a longer route customized to real need in the next few weeks (similar routes to the activities busses they already have in place). If timing is a problem, they could ask kids who need bus service to walk farther to catch the one/few busses (so not bus stops every few blocks as we usually have, but kids can walk up to a mile to catch the bus... just for a few weeks.

National guard is a bad idea unless you can quickly put them through background checks required for anyone who has student contact. But montgomery county could also adjust ride on routes to match needs of schools and parents could voluntarily opt in to using ride on rather than school-provided transportation or carpooling at their discretion.

We live in an affluent area. We are able to do so because we are a dual income family who work our butts off and manage our finances carefully, including sending our children to public schools where bussing is included.

Robbing the upper middle class to feed the poor would be a toe hold for the far left that won't be easily relinquished.

As far as I know, Montgomery County has been providing free ride on busses to students throughout the pandemic. The rational choice would be to take busses from areas with free ride-on busses rather than taking busses from the upper middle class.

You people are truly insane.

So you’re going to put elementary students on Ride-On buses alone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Idea that gifted kids are all well behaved is a screaming farce.

And I agree that busing should be prioritized for families who are least likely to have their own transportation or the time to drive their kids to school

Nope. Please reflect on the difference between ‘most’ and ‘in general’ and ‘all.’

There are some incredibly poorly behaved magnet kids. Spectacular.
In general, they are far, far better behaved than children other classes. This is a fact. Ask any teacher who works with them. Ask your MS or HS magnet kids which classes are usually on task and learning the most - magnet or general.

I am kind of tired of people pretending that they are so humble and their magnet kids are just like other kids and magnet schools are ‘just like’ other schools. This is really just not true and you undermine why the classes are so important. We’ve through a few magnet schools here in MCPS. They are kids. They are unique. They are also generally far better behaved.

ALSO - most (not all!) magnet kids are middle class at our school. Working parents. They do really need the bus support.

Like the idea of prioritizing the less affluent areas. In more affluent areas, schools could have parents sign up if they absolutely need bus service, and a smaller number of busses could run a longer route customized to real need in the next few weeks (similar routes to the activities busses they already have in place). If timing is a problem, they could ask kids who need bus service to walk farther to catch the one/few busses (so not bus stops every few blocks as we usually have, but kids can walk up to a mile to catch the bus... just for a few weeks.

National guard is a bad idea unless you can quickly put them through background checks required for anyone who has student contact. But montgomery county could also adjust ride on routes to match needs of schools and parents could voluntarily opt in to using ride on rather than school-provided transportation or carpooling at their discretion.

We live in an affluent area. We are able to do so because we are a dual income family who work our butts off and manage our finances carefully, including sending our children to public schools where bussing is included.

Robbing the upper middle class to feed the poor would be a toe hold for the far left that won't be easily relinquished.

As far as I know, Montgomery County has been providing free ride on busses to students throughout the pandemic. The rational choice would be to take busses from areas with free ride-on busses rather than taking busses from the upper middle class.

You people are truly insane.

So you’re going to put elementary students on Ride-On buses alone?

If Montgomery County valued education they would suspend ride on buses and use them solely for mcps services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps mcps should make it a priority to provide bus services to students in the less affluent part of the county. Where parents are unable to drive their kids to school because of a hardship or work. I am confident that the parents in more affluent areas can drive their kids to school, car pool etc. MCPS should prioritize bus drivers to those routes.
Its probably hard to do and mcps won’t do it but we might need to do something like this to get through these challenging times.

You are absolutely right on this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Idea that gifted kids are all well behaved is a screaming farce.

And I agree that busing should be prioritized for families who are least likely to have their own transportation or the time to drive their kids to school

Nope. Please reflect on the difference between ‘most’ and ‘in general’ and ‘all.’

There are some incredibly poorly behaved magnet kids. Spectacular.
In general, they are far, far better behaved than children other classes. This is a fact. Ask any teacher who works with them. Ask your MS or HS magnet kids which classes are usually on task and learning the most - magnet or general.

I am kind of tired of people pretending that they are so humble and their magnet kids are just like other kids and magnet schools are ‘just like’ other schools. This is really just not true and you undermine why the classes are so important. We’ve through a few magnet schools here in MCPS. They are kids. They are unique. They are also generally far better behaved.

ALSO - most (not all!) magnet kids are middle class at our school. Working parents. They do really need the bus support.

Like the idea of prioritizing the less affluent areas. In more affluent areas, schools could have parents sign up if they absolutely need bus service, and a smaller number of busses could run a longer route customized to real need in the next few weeks (similar routes to the activities busses they already have in place). If timing is a problem, they could ask kids who need bus service to walk farther to catch the one/few busses (so not bus stops every few blocks as we usually have, but kids can walk up to a mile to catch the bus... just for a few weeks.

National guard is a bad idea unless you can quickly put them through background checks required for anyone who has student contact. But montgomery county could also adjust ride on routes to match needs of schools and parents could voluntarily opt in to using ride on rather than school-provided transportation or carpooling at their discretion.

We live in an affluent area. We are able to do so because we are a dual income family who work our butts off and manage our finances carefully, including sending our children to public schools where bussing is included.

Robbing the upper middle class to feed the poor would be a toe hold for the far left that won't be easily relinquished.

As far as I know, Montgomery County has been providing free ride on busses to students throughout the pandemic. The rational choice would be to take busses from areas with free ride-on busses rather than taking busses from the upper middle class.

You people are truly insane.

So you’re going to put elementary students on Ride-On buses alone?

If Montgomery County valued education they would suspend ride on buses and use them solely for mcps services.

They’ve already reduced RideOn service by 25% because there’s a bus driver shortage there, too.

Besides, when you suspend RideOn service to send kids to school, now many of their parents can’t get to work.