Bus issues solution.. maybe

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Do you people understand WHY there is no bus service? It's because the people you entrust your children to, the ones who operate several tons of bus every school day, are too sick and too contagious to do their jobs.

I'd think this would drop a penny of at least compassion for you, if not the concern that hey, maybe something's really wrong here? But no.


We all have covid too, pp. But we got vaccinated and boostered so it's a cold. If bus drivers aren't vaccinated I have zero compassion. That's right.


You’re a disgusting person. My brother is triple vaxxed and in the hospital on a ventilator right now due to COVID. Vaccines absolutely help but don’t you dare pretend they keep everyone safe. I feel so sorry for anyone who knows you.
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Anonymous wrote:The issue is that the schools can’t take the car traffic if everyone drives their kids to school. My son’s middle school was nuts last week with all the cars and impatient parents. Cars were cutting in line and dropping kids off haphazardly. It’s an accident waiting to happen.

+1 at the start of the year, when a lot of parents were driving their kids, the buses couldn't get through. Everyone was constantly late.

I'll say again. National guard.


How does National Guard help? What percentage of the national guard has been through a screening process to show that they're safe to be around young kids unsupervised, or the skills in group management? What percentage has the right commercial license?



It's so brilliant we have an infinite number of these National Guard robots. They can handle the emergency room overflow, drive school buses, give out covid tests and vaccines....

Hey, funny random story? Yesterday I spoke with a friend who works in a covid vaccine manufacturing plant. They had 300 workers absent on Friday. All sick with covid.

MA is considered the best state for education. They pulled in their National Guard to help with driver shortages. They figured it out. We can't do the same? Because MCPS always makes excuses why they can't achieve something that other districts can? Always some excuse. It's like my kids.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/07/school-bus-shortage-massachusetts-national-guard/


I think it might be the Governor that would call in the National Guard but go ahead and put it on MCPS as usual.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Perhaps mcps should make it a priority to provide bus services to students in the less affluent part of the county. Where parents are unable to drive their kids to school because of a hardship or work. I am confident that the parents in more affluent areas can drive their kids to school, car pool etc. MCPS should prioritize bus drivers to those routes.
Its probably hard to do and mcps won’t do it but we might need to do something like this to get through these challenging times.

It should be that the routes within walking distance 1.5 miles or closer do not have drivers and the others all get coverage first. Then the kids can walk in groups if necessary. Obviously elementary schools should all have buses, I meant all close bus stops for middle and high schools should be paused as necessary.
Anonymous
I live in an affluent area now and tons of dual income households.

I moved from a lower income area and 99 percent of women did not work full time, most dads were handiman, retired cops or fireman. I say 90 percent of town was around all day. Hence why it was lower income.

My old town had ZERO bus service. Why who needed it.
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Anonymous wrote:How will you means test for affluent? And what’s the threshold for affluent? My husband works a swing shift and I’m expected at work by 8 am. We’re not poor but certainly not in a position to afford $500 a week before / after care for our kids and I don’t trust a sitter - not could I necessarily secure one - to drive my kids? Part of what buses offer is a safe, reliable mode of transport.


MCPS has a duty to provide all students access to a Free Appropriate Public Education. Part of access is bus transportation for students if they cannot safely walk to school.

MCPS has breached this responsibility. Someone will step in with an Office of Civil Rights complaint on behalf of all affected students. Even more so when students with disabilities are denied bus transportation to access the support and services they need. OCR sometimes starts their own investigation when they see such problems in the news.


I totally agree MCPS has breached their responsibilities. I think MCPS leadership should be criminally investigated for violating their requirements to protect health and safety of the children. I'm okay if you ARREST THEM ALL!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The issue is that the schools can’t take the car traffic if everyone drives their kids to school. My son’s middle school was nuts last week with all the cars and impatient parents. Cars were cutting in line and dropping kids off haphazardly. It’s an accident waiting to happen.

+1 at the start of the year, when a lot of parents were driving their kids, the buses couldn't get through. Everyone was constantly late.

I'll say again. National guard.


How does National Guard help? What percentage of the national guard has been through a screening process to show that they're safe to be around young kids unsupervised, or the skills in group management? What percentage has the right commercial license?



It's so brilliant we have an infinite number of these National Guard robots. They can handle the emergency room overflow, drive school buses, give out covid tests and vaccines....

Hey, funny random story? Yesterday I spoke with a friend who works in a covid vaccine manufacturing plant. They had 300 workers absent on Friday. All sick with covid.

MA is considered the best state for education. They pulled in their National Guard to help with driver shortages. They figured it out. We can't do the same? Because MCPS always makes excuses why they can't achieve something that other districts can? Always some excuse. It's like my kids.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/07/school-bus-shortage-massachusetts-national-guard/


I think it might be the Governor that would call in the National Guard but go ahead and put it on MCPS as usual.


I can see the headlines now - "MCPS calls in National Guard to enforce in-person learning, McKnight refuses Hybrid amidst increasing pediatric hospitalizations"?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The issue is that the schools can’t take the car traffic if everyone drives their kids to school. My son’s middle school was nuts last week with all the cars and impatient parents. Cars were cutting in line and dropping kids off haphazardly. It’s an accident waiting to happen.

+1 at the start of the year, when a lot of parents were driving their kids, the buses couldn't get through. Everyone was constantly late.

I'll say again. National guard.


How does National Guard help? What percentage of the national guard has been through a screening process to show that they're safe to be around young kids unsupervised, or the skills in group management? What percentage has the right commercial license?



It's so brilliant we have an infinite number of these National Guard robots. They can handle the emergency room overflow, drive school buses, give out covid tests and vaccines....

Hey, funny random story? Yesterday I spoke with a friend who works in a covid vaccine manufacturing plant. They had 300 workers absent on Friday. All sick with covid.

MA is considered the best state for education. They pulled in their National Guard to help with driver shortages. They figured it out. We can't do the same? Because MCPS always makes excuses why they can't achieve something that other districts can? Always some excuse. It's like my kids.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/07/school-bus-shortage-massachusetts-national-guard/


I think it might be the Governor that would call in the National Guard but go ahead and put it on MCPS as usual.

MCPS could certainly request it from our Governor. They won't, though, because some people like a PP think it's too hard. MoCo is full of people who are frozen by fear, and inaction with their thumbs up their collective butts is better than trying to solve a problem creatively. There is no perfect solution. If MCPS can't figure it out on their own, then at least look to the state that does education best -- MA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The issue is that the schools can’t take the car traffic if everyone drives their kids to school. My son’s middle school was nuts last week with all the cars and impatient parents. Cars were cutting in line and dropping kids off haphazardly. It’s an accident waiting to happen.

+1 at the start of the year, when a lot of parents were driving their kids, the buses couldn't get through. Everyone was constantly late.

I'll say again. National guard.


How does National Guard help? What percentage of the national guard has been through a screening process to show that they're safe to be around young kids unsupervised, or the skills in group management? What percentage has the right commercial license?



It's so brilliant we have an infinite number of these National Guard robots. They can handle the emergency room overflow, drive school buses, give out covid tests and vaccines....

Hey, funny random story? Yesterday I spoke with a friend who works in a covid vaccine manufacturing plant. They had 300 workers absent on Friday. All sick with covid.

MA is considered the best state for education. They pulled in their National Guard to help with driver shortages. They figured it out. We can't do the same? Because MCPS always makes excuses why they can't achieve something that other districts can? Always some excuse. It's like my kids.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/07/school-bus-shortage-massachusetts-national-guard/


I think it might be the Governor that would call in the National Guard but go ahead and put it on MCPS as usual.


I can see the headlines now - "MCPS calls in National Guard to enforce in-person learning, McKnight refuses Hybrid amidst increasing pediatric hospitalizations"?

here's an actual headline rather than your made up one:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/30/learning-loss-from-virtual-school-due-to-covid-is-significant-.html


  • More than half of public school K-12 teachers said the pandemic resulted in a “significant” learning loss for students, both academically and in their social-emotional progress, according to a report.
    Other research also shows distance learning has caused a significant setback in achievement, particularly among Black and Hispanic students and students with disabilities
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    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:The issue is that the schools can’t take the car traffic if everyone drives their kids to school. My son’s middle school was nuts last week with all the cars and impatient parents. Cars were cutting in line and dropping kids off haphazardly. It’s an accident waiting to happen.

    +1 at the start of the year, when a lot of parents were driving their kids, the buses couldn't get through. Everyone was constantly late.

    I'll say again. National guard.


    How does National Guard help? What percentage of the national guard has been through a screening process to show that they're safe to be around young kids unsupervised, or the skills in group management? What percentage has the right commercial license?



    It's so brilliant we have an infinite number of these National Guard robots. They can handle the emergency room overflow, drive school buses, give out covid tests and vaccines....

    Hey, funny random story? Yesterday I spoke with a friend who works in a covid vaccine manufacturing plant. They had 300 workers absent on Friday. All sick with covid.

    MA is considered the best state for education. They pulled in their National Guard to help with driver shortages. They figured it out. We can't do the same? Because MCPS always makes excuses why they can't achieve something that other districts can? Always some excuse. It's like my kids.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/07/school-bus-shortage-massachusetts-national-guard/


    I think it might be the Governor that would call in the National Guard but go ahead and put it on MCPS as usual.

    MCPS could certainly request it from our Governor. They won't, though, because some people like a PP think it's too hard. MoCo is full of people who are frozen by fear, and inaction with their thumbs up their collective butts is better than trying to solve a problem creatively. There is no perfect solution. If MCPS can't figure it out on their own, then at least look to the state that does education best -- MA.


    Yup. Massachusetts is bringing in covid sniffing dogs to keep kids in school.
    Mcps would say this is a violation of human rights because poor kids can't afford dog food so might be too scared to come to school.
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:The issue is that the schools can’t take the car traffic if everyone drives their kids to school. My son’s middle school was nuts last week with all the cars and impatient parents. Cars were cutting in line and dropping kids off haphazardly. It’s an accident waiting to happen.

    +1 at the start of the year, when a lot of parents were driving their kids, the buses couldn't get through. Everyone was constantly late.

    I'll say again. National guard.


    How does National Guard help? What percentage of the national guard has been through a screening process to show that they're safe to be around young kids unsupervised, or the skills in group management? What percentage has the right commercial license?



    It's so brilliant we have an infinite number of these National Guard robots. They can handle the emergency room overflow, drive school buses, give out covid tests and vaccines....

    Hey, funny random story? Yesterday I spoke with a friend who works in a covid vaccine manufacturing plant. They had 300 workers absent on Friday. All sick with covid.

    MA is considered the best state for education. They pulled in their National Guard to help with driver shortages. They figured it out. We can't do the same? Because MCPS always makes excuses why they can't achieve something that other districts can? Always some excuse. It's like my kids.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/07/school-bus-shortage-massachusetts-national-guard/


    I think it might be the Governor that would call in the National Guard but go ahead and put it on MCPS as usual.

    MCPS could certainly request it from our Governor. They won't, though, because some people like a PP think it's too hard. MoCo is full of people who are frozen by fear, and inaction with their thumbs up their collective butts is better than trying to solve a problem creatively. There is no perfect solution. If MCPS can't figure it out on their own, then at least look to the state that does education best -- MA.


    Yup. Massachusetts is bringing in covid sniffing dogs to keep kids in school.
    Mcps would say this is a violation of human rights because poor kids can't afford dog food so might be too scared to come to school.


    Massachusetts is a STATE not a school district. Go talk to the Governor or State Education Superintendent.
    Anonymous
    Perhaps mcps should make it a priority to provide bus services to students in the less affluent part of the county. Where parents are unable to drive their kids to school because of a hardship or work. I am confident that the parents in more affluent areas can drive their kids to school, car pool etc. MCPS should prioritize bus drivers to those routes.
    Its probably hard to do and mcps won’t do it but we might need to do something like this to get through these challenging times.

    It should be that the routes within walking distance 1.5 miles or closer do not have drivers and the others all get coverage first. Then the kids can walk in groups if necessary. Obviously elementary schools should all have buses, I meant all close bus stops for middle and high schools should be paused as necessary.


    Do you even live here? MCPS does not bus within 1.5 miles of middle school or within 2 miles of any high school.
    https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/rules/riding.aspx#q1

    So, problem solved I guess?
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:The issue is that the schools can’t take the car traffic if everyone drives their kids to school. My son’s middle school was nuts last week with all the cars and impatient parents. Cars were cutting in line and dropping kids off haphazardly. It’s an accident waiting to happen.

    +1 at the start of the year, when a lot of parents were driving their kids, the buses couldn't get through. Everyone was constantly late.

    I'll say again. National guard.


    How does National Guard help? What percentage of the national guard has been through a screening process to show that they're safe to be around young kids unsupervised, or the skills in group management? What percentage has the right commercial license?



    It's so brilliant we have an infinite number of these National Guard robots. They can handle the emergency room overflow, drive school buses, give out covid tests and vaccines....

    Hey, funny random story? Yesterday I spoke with a friend who works in a covid vaccine manufacturing plant. They had 300 workers absent on Friday. All sick with covid.

    MA is considered the best state for education. They pulled in their National Guard to help with driver shortages. They figured it out. We can't do the same? Because MCPS always makes excuses why they can't achieve something that other districts can? Always some excuse. It's like my kids.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/07/school-bus-shortage-massachusetts-national-guard/


    I think it might be the Governor that would call in the National Guard but go ahead and put it on MCPS as usual.


    I can see the headlines now - "MCPS calls in National Guard to enforce in-person learning, McKnight refuses Hybrid amidst increasing pediatric hospitalizations"?

    here's an actual headline rather than your made up one:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/30/learning-loss-from-virtual-school-due-to-covid-is-significant-.html


  • More than half of public school K-12 teachers said the pandemic resulted in a “significant” learning loss for students, both academically and in their social-emotional progress, according to a report.
    Other research also shows distance learning has caused a significant setback in achievement, particularly among Black and Hispanic students and students with disabilities
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    Seriously? You're worried about lower test scores for your kid? That's really conceited, self-centered, and reflects badly upon you as a human being. Really.

    “I think a lot of parents have been relying on the narrative that if you have a healthy child, it’s very unlikely that your child can get sick from Covid. That’s not true,” said Dr. Amy Edwards, a pediatric infectious disease expert at University Hospitals Rainbow Babies & Children’s Hospital in Cleveland."

    "Edwards said she and her colleagues have noted a "significant uptick" in the number of children admitted to the hospital recently with Covid-19, as well as an increase in the number of such children needing IV fluids, oxygen support and, in some cases, ventilation."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-warning-symptoms-children-kids-hospitalized-record-numbers-rcna10741

    I think people like you should be forced to do volunteer work at the ICU to help monitor pediatric covid cases. I really, really do.
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:The issue is that the schools can’t take the car traffic if everyone drives their kids to school. My son’s middle school was nuts last week with all the cars and impatient parents. Cars were cutting in line and dropping kids off haphazardly. It’s an accident waiting to happen.

    +1 at the start of the year, when a lot of parents were driving their kids, the buses couldn't get through. Everyone was constantly late.

    I'll say again. National guard.


    How does National Guard help? What percentage of the national guard has been through a screening process to show that they're safe to be around young kids unsupervised, or the skills in group management? What percentage has the right commercial license?



    It's so brilliant we have an infinite number of these National Guard robots. They can handle the emergency room overflow, drive school buses, give out covid tests and vaccines....

    Hey, funny random story? Yesterday I spoke with a friend who works in a covid vaccine manufacturing plant. They had 300 workers absent on Friday. All sick with covid.

    MA is considered the best state for education. They pulled in their National Guard to help with driver shortages. They figured it out. We can't do the same? Because MCPS always makes excuses why they can't achieve something that other districts can? Always some excuse. It's like my kids.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/07/school-bus-shortage-massachusetts-national-guard/


    I think it might be the Governor that would call in the National Guard but go ahead and put it on MCPS as usual.


    I can see the headlines now - "MCPS calls in National Guard to enforce in-person learning, McKnight refuses Hybrid amidst increasing pediatric hospitalizations"?

    here's an actual headline rather than your made up one:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/30/learning-loss-from-virtual-school-due-to-covid-is-significant-.html


  • More than half of public school K-12 teachers said the pandemic resulted in a “significant” learning loss for students, both academically and in their social-emotional progress, according to a report.
    Other research also shows distance learning has caused a significant setback in achievement, particularly among Black and Hispanic students and students with disabilities
  • .


    Seriously? You're worried about lower test scores for your kid? That's really conceited, self-centered, and reflects badly upon you as a human being. Really.

    “I think a lot of parents have been relying on the narrative that if you have a healthy child, it’s very unlikely that your child can get sick from Covid. That’s not true,” said Dr. Amy Edwards, a pediatric infectious disease expert at University Hospitals Rainbow Babies & Children’s Hospital in Cleveland."

    "Edwards said she and her colleagues have noted a "significant uptick" in the number of children admitted to the hospital recently with Covid-19, as well as an increase in the number of such children needing IV fluids, oxygen support and, in some cases, ventilation."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-warning-symptoms-children-kids-hospitalized-record-numbers-rcna10741

    I think people like you should be forced to do volunteer work at the ICU to help monitor pediatric covid cases. I really, really do.

    My kids' test scores are 90 to 99%. I'm not worried about their test scores. 99% of kids who have covid don't end up hospitalized. Stop fear mongering. If you are scared, then stay home.

    My kid had covid. He was fine. I know several other kids who had covid. They are fine. While it's tragic when anyone gets very sick or die, we shouldn't live in fear.

    The people who work in hospitals have a skewed sense off reality, even as I appreciate their work. And speaking, if they have little kids, who's going to mind their kids doing VL while they work? Or should the country just shutdown?
    Anonymous
    4 in 100,000 children are hospitalized from covid. People think schools should close because .00004% kids are hospitalized with covid? We are seriously doomed, but not from covid.
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous wrote:How will you means test for affluent? And what’s the threshold for affluent? My husband works a swing shift and I’m expected at work by 8 am. We’re not poor but certainly not in a position to afford $500 a week before / after care for our kids and I don’t trust a sitter - not could I necessarily secure one - to drive my kids? Part of what buses offer is a safe, reliable mode of transport.


    MCPS has a duty to provide all students access to a Free Appropriate Public Education. Part of access is bus transportation for students if they cannot safely walk to school.

    MCPS has breached this responsibility. Someone will step in with an Office of Civil Rights complaint on behalf of all affected students. Even more so when students with disabilities are denied bus transportation to access the support and services they need. OCR sometimes starts their own investigation when they see such problems in the news.


    Okay, so you drive the bus. Is MCPS supposed to pull drivers out of thin air? If drivers are sick, the county can't just magically create new drivers to replace them. You can scream about FAPE all you want, but it won't change the fact that there aren't enough drivers.
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