Texas "pro-life" obgyn thinks it's fine for a 9 or 10 year old to carry a baby to term

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess I’m just astonished that no one from the party that spent months complaining about masks for school kids, used QAnon’s “save the children” (from pedophiles) as a rallying cry, and is willing and happy to burn books from a high school library because of reasons is willing to stand up and say, “this is too far.” Really, NONE of you “pro lifers” has any reservations about forcing a 4th grader to carry her rapist’s baby to term, even if it breaks her body and spirit? This is all good with you?

Who are they proposing should raise the baby? The 9 year old mother? The child molesting father? Force the 9 year old to carry the baby and then have CPS immediately remove it from the home? Would the 9 year old and her baby both be removed from the home? If so, would they be sent to the same foster home or would they be separated? If you are in favor of these laws, you need to come up with real life solutions.

This is beyond the pale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only someone with a cold, dead heart would put a fetus above the life of a 9 year old child, and think it's better to force a child to carry a pregnancy to term than to terminate. And yet here we are today. This kind of extremist, barbaric thinking is spreading throughout the anti-abortion movement.

I'm sure there are some anti-abortionists who will claim they are more moderate and would not want children to be forced to go through labor and delivery. But I am skeptical they will ever fight against this part of their movement as long as it means they get to rob adult women of their bodily autonomy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/26/health/texas-abortion-law-risky-pregnancy.html

Dr. Ingrid Skop, an obstetrician in San Antonio who belongs to the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said that even a girl as young as 9 or 10, impregnated by a father or a brother, could carry a baby to term without health risks.

“If she is developed enough to be menstruating and become pregnant, and reached sexual maturity, she can safely give birth to a baby,” Dr. Skop said.

The article has a paywall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we focus on 9 and 10 year old girls not getting pregnant in the first place?

Yes therein lies the bigger problem! And frankly women should control their bodies to not be in that position. Opt out of having sex with men, or get fixed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we focus on 9 and 10 year old girls not getting pregnant in the first place?

Yes therein lies the bigger problem! And frankly women should control their bodies to not be in that position. Opt out of having sex with men, or get fixed.

Are you implying that if an elementary school aged child gets pregnant, it’s her fault for not controlling her body? Because if not, that’s some sloppy posting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we focus on 9 and 10 year old girls not getting pregnant in the first place?

Yes therein lies the bigger problem! And frankly women should control their bodies to not be in that position. Opt out of having sex with men, or get fixed.

Are you implying that if an elementary school aged child gets pregnant, it’s her fault for not controlling her body? Because if not, that’s some sloppy posting.

No! That's why I wrote "women".

I would say the parents are accountable obviously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we focus on 9 and 10 year old girls not getting pregnant in the first place?

Yes therein lies the bigger problem! And frankly women should control their bodies to not be in that position. Opt out of having sex with men, or get fixed.

Are you implying that if an elementary school aged child gets pregnant, it’s her fault for not controlling her body? Because if not, that’s some sloppy posting.

No! That's why I wrote "women".

I would say the parents are accountable obviously.

Well, and it’s not like things like early sex education and access to birth control could help, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we focus on 9 and 10 year old girls not getting pregnant in the first place?

Yes therein lies the bigger problem! And frankly women should control their bodies to not be in that position. Opt out of having sex with men, or get fixed.

You’ve inadvertently hit the nail on the head: the cruelty toward women and girls is the point, the punishment is the point. It’s the same reason that rape still isn’t treated seriously. These freakish forced birthers want women to experience the full weight of “Eve’s curse.” Even when the “women” in question are children.

[Anonymous]

I had watched an interview with some republican lawmaker ( I wish I could remember where I saw it) anyway, he was apoplectic that a teenage girl be given the power to end a life.

[Anonymous]

“It was the early morning of my 10th birthday the first time that I was raped by my father. It would not be the last. The shock was so severe that I temporarily went blind before I began the fifth grade a few weeks later. By the time the school year began, my father had taken me to see a battery of doctors — a medical explanation would paper over the fact that the trauma caused by his sexual violence had caused my body to shut down.

At age 12, I was pregnant by my father, and I had an abortion. Before we got to the doctor’s office, I had no idea that I was pregnant. My father lied about my age and the circumstance of my pregnancy, informing the doctor that I was 15 and that I had been reckless with a boyfriend. My father shook his head, explaining to the doctor that he was doing all that he could as a single parent — my parents had divorced by this time — but that I was out of control. Both men seemed to convey contempt toward me. For many years, the shame of my father’s lie lingered with me.

My shame was never about the abortion. I will forever be grateful that my pregnancy was terminated. I am fortunate that my body was spared an additional trauma imposed by my father — one that today would be forced by some state legislatures and courts. No child should be pressured or expected to carry a pregnancy and give birth, or to feel remorse, guilt, doubt or unease about an abortion under any circumstances, let alone rape or incest.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/30/opinion/abortion-texas-mississippi-rape.html?smid=tw-share

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we focus on 9 and 10 year old girls not getting pregnant in the first place?

Yes therein lies the bigger problem! And frankly women should control their bodies to not be in that position. Opt out of having sex with men, or get fixed.

You’ve inadvertently hit the nail on the head: the cruelty toward women and girls is the point, the punishment is the point. It’s the same reason that rape still isn’t treated seriously. These freakish forced birthers want women to experience the full weight of “Eve’s curse.” Even when the “women” in question are children.

This is the point. Cruelty is the point. If a nine year old girl is "too mature," something she doesn't have control over, she must be punished.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“It was the early morning of my 10th birthday the first time that I was raped by my father. It would not be the last. The shock was so severe that I temporarily went blind before I began the fifth grade a few weeks later. By the time the school year began, my father had taken me to see a battery of doctors — a medical explanation would paper over the fact that the trauma caused by his sexual violence had caused my body to shut down.

At age 12, I was pregnant by my father, and I had an abortion. Before we got to the doctor’s office, I had no idea that I was pregnant. My father lied about my age and the circumstance of my pregnancy, informing the doctor that I was 15 and that I had been reckless with a boyfriend. My father shook his head, explaining to the doctor that he was doing all that he could as a single parent — my parents had divorced by this time — but that I was out of control. Both men seemed to convey contempt toward me. For many years, the shame of my father’s lie lingered with me.

My shame was never about the abortion. I will forever be grateful that my pregnancy was terminated. I am fortunate that my body was spared an additional trauma imposed by my father — one that today would be forced by some state legislatures and courts. No child should be pressured or expected to carry a pregnancy and give birth, or to feel remorse, guilt, doubt or unease about an abortion under any circumstances, let alone rape or incest.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/30/opinion/abortion-texas-mississippi-rape.html?smid=tw-share

That is horrific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we focus on 9 and 10 year old girls not getting pregnant in the first place?

Yes therein lies the bigger problem! And frankly women should control their bodies to not be in that position. Opt out of having sex with men, or get fixed.

I…this is just so myopic that I am *almost* speechless.

I am glad, for you, that in your world that things are truly that simple. For many, MANY, women and girls, it isn’t so cut and dried.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we focus on 9 and 10 year old girls not getting pregnant in the first place?

Yes therein lies the bigger problem! And frankly women should control their bodies to not be in that position. Opt out of having sex with men, or get fixed.

Are you implying that if an elementary school aged child gets pregnant, it’s her fault for not controlling her body? Because if not, that’s some sloppy posting.

No! That's why I wrote "women".

I would say the parents are accountable obviously.

Are you insane?! A pregnant 9 year old very likely got that way because of a close family member...far too often her own father.

Here, read this: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/30/opinion/abortion-texas-mississippi-rape.html

Exactly what difference would it make to hold her parents accountable? Her father was the one who scheduled her abortion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we focus on 9 and 10 year old girls not getting pregnant in the first place?

Yes therein lies the bigger problem! And frankly women should control their bodies to not be in that position. Opt out of having sex with men, or get fixed.

Are you implying that if an elementary school aged child gets pregnant, it’s her fault for not controlling her body? Because if not, that’s some sloppy posting.

No! That's why I wrote "women".

I would say the parents are accountable obviously.

Are you insane?! A pregnant 9 year old very likely got that way because of a close family member...far too often her own father.

Here, read this: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/30/opinion/abortion-texas-mississippi-rape.html

Exactly what difference would it make to hold her parents accountable? Her father was the one who scheduled her abortion?

This is probably a male troll. No sensible woman would think that it's a nine year old's fault for getting pregnant. As for blaming a nine year old (or her parents) for her pregnancy, should we keep our young daughters with us all the time to make sure that they won't be impregnated? Keep them off school until they can go on birth control? Perhaps we should have women and children only spaces like they do in Saudi Arabia. Maybe make them wear a head to toe covering so that they doesn't entice men?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“It was the early morning of my 10th birthday the first time that I was raped by my father. It would not be the last. The shock was so severe that I temporarily went blind before I began the fifth grade a few weeks later. By the time the school year began, my father had taken me to see a battery of doctors — a medical explanation would paper over the fact that the trauma caused by his sexual violence had caused my body to shut down.

At age 12, I was pregnant by my father, and I had an abortion. Before we got to the doctor’s office, I had no idea that I was pregnant. My father lied about my age and the circumstance of my pregnancy, informing the doctor that I was 15 and that I had been reckless with a boyfriend. My father shook his head, explaining to the doctor that he was doing all that he could as a single parent — my parents had divorced by this time — but that I was out of control. Both men seemed to convey contempt toward me. For many years, the shame of my father’s lie lingered with me.

My shame was never about the abortion. I will forever be grateful that my pregnancy was terminated. I am fortunate that my body was spared an additional trauma imposed by my father — one that today would be forced by some state legislatures and courts. No child should be pressured or expected to carry a pregnancy and give birth, or to feel remorse, guilt, doubt or unease about an abortion under any circumstances, let alone rape or incest.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/30/opinion/abortion-texas-mississippi-rape.html?smid=tw-share

That is horrific.

Heartbreaking. I cannot express the gratitude I feel for this survivor’s bravery and generosity in sharing her story so that other young girls might be spared this horror.