Beauty and Grooming habits to appeal to "UMC type" men

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Anonymous wrote:My description is refined elegance.

Longer vs shorter hair

Heels vs flats

Feminine look vs too tailored

Some color in wardrobe besides gray and black

Fit vs fat

Highlights vs stark black dye or gray roots or gray

Friendly vs sullen

And it’s all about energy! So many younger women (and men) looking sloppy and conveying an unfriendly or standoffish vibe.

That can come across as trying too hard. You don’t need to dress like a fashion model while shopping at WF.

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Getting out of a $70k car helps. Covered up breasts. Short nails. Subtle or no makeup. Athletic clothes.

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The smell thing is real also. We all cook but always better to smell nice.

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Anonymous wrote:Vineyard Vines everything

Nope.

Brown girls rocking vineyard vines, ll bean, New England prep attire is total cringe.

Brown girls with money present way better in designer.

Op do not copy umc dc white women.

Your references should be to see what is happening in nyc or la.

Not dc or Boston.

You can overlap with Lululemon but not the vineyard vines ll bean stuff.

Brown girls who know how to present themselves run circles around white waspy women. Most Indian women are beautiful and when they know how to groom and dress, can be blindingly gorgeous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"UMC" is a pretty broad category. We're not rich, but an Ivied-degreed man married to an Ivied-degree woman, so I think we qualify as UMC. She wears LL Bean and Ann Taylor clothes, gets her hair cut twice a year (never styled or colored), almost never wears makeup, and never does anything to her nails. So that's one example. There are a few million others, and some are at the other extreme.

No one aspires to look like you or your wife. Good god.

Thanks for your support.

Out of 7 billion people in the world, no one? My point is that there isn't a "right way," even if some approaches are more typical or more broadly popular than others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vineyard Vines everything

Nope.

Brown girls rocking vineyard vines, ll bean, New England prep attire is total cringe.

Brown girls with money present way better in designer.

Op do not copy umc dc white women.

Your references should be to see what is happening in nyc or la.

Not dc or Boston.

You can overlap with Lululemon but not the vineyard vines ll bean stuff.

Brown girls who know how to present themselves run circles around white waspy women. Most Indian women are beautiful and when they know how to groom and dress, can be blindingly gorgeous.

Gorgeous yes, but it is fine line between looking gorgeous and very very high maintenance. A lot of men aren’t into that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vineyard Vines everything

Nope.

Brown girls rocking vineyard vines, ll bean, New England prep attire is total cringe.

Brown girls with money present way better in designer.

Op do not copy umc dc white women.

Your references should be to see what is happening in nyc or la.

Not dc or Boston.

You can overlap with Lululemon but not the vineyard vines ll bean stuff.

Brown girls who know how to present themselves run circles around white waspy women. Most Indian women are beautiful and when they know how to groom and dress, can be blindingly gorgeous.

Indian women are beautiful as are women of many different cultures and backgrounds. I don’t think women of any particular background run circles around women of any other background.

It’s all a matter of matter of personal preference- beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder.

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First, stop using the words “grooming” and “hygiene.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is hilarious and I’m really, really hoping these comments are jokes. I’m overweight, have tattoos and i don’t care about my clothes. I don’t watch my speech or tone of voice. I’ve never plucked an eyebrow in my life. I attract plenty of UMC and UC men. I’m just me. I like myself, I have a ton of friends, and I have never had any issues dating. You people are delusional.

Some people don't mind slumming. Visible tattoos on a woman are a definite disqualification.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vineyard Vines everything

Nope.

Brown girls rocking vineyard vines, ll bean, New England prep attire is total cringe.

Brown girls with money present way better in designer.

Op do not copy umc dc white women.

Your references should be to see what is happening in nyc or la.

Not dc or Boston.

You can overlap with Lululemon but not the vineyard vines ll bean stuff.

Brown girls who know how to present themselves run circles around white waspy women. Most Indian women are beautiful and when they know how to groom and dress, can be blindingly gorgeous.

Uh, thanks for that opinion? OP is asking for tips on how not to look poor. PP is saying not to try to dress super preppy bc that looks strange on non-whites. No one asked for your opinion on the relative attractiveness of white and south asian women

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My description is refined elegance.

Longer vs shorter hair

Heels vs flats

Feminine look vs too tailored

Some color in wardrobe besides gray and black

Fit vs fat

Highlights vs stark black dye or gray roots or gray

Friendly vs sullen

And it’s all about energy! So many younger women (and men) looking sloppy and conveying an unfriendly or standoffish vibe.

...and holding pumpkin spice. This is so bad

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I’m down with brown…

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Anonymous wrote:Like a WASP.

You cannot look like a WASP if youre Pakistani. It would be literally impossible.

Better to give OP some real, actionable advice. Make sure you look clean, spray some perfume on, make sure you're not cooking with heavily smelly middle eastern flavors like curry as that can stick to you, wear flattering clothes that show off your figure, master a pretty, flattering makeup routine.

Good lord.

What? It's true. The Korean women in my office reek of oil. The black women smll like fast food. The white men smell like cheap deodorent. Those are just facts.

Rude. I wish that I knew you in person so that I could tell you about yourself. What if I said white women smell like wet dog???

I wouldn’t say rude. I’d say factual and true. PP didn’t intend to hurt anyone’s feelings, just stating facts. If I was two tons of fun and someone said I smell like a$$, my feelings wouldn’t be hurt and it’s time for me to take a shower.
Suck it up buttercup.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Like a WASP.

You cannot look like a WASP if youre Pakistani. It would be literally impossible.

Better to give OP some real, actionable advice. Make sure you look clean, spray some perfume on, make sure you're not cooking with heavily smelly middle eastern flavors like curry as that can stick to you, wear flattering clothes that show off your figure, master a pretty, flattering makeup routine.

Good lord.

What? It's true. The Korean women in my office reek of oil. The black women smll like fast food. The white men smell like cheap deodorent. Those are just facts.

Rude. I wish that I knew you in person so that I could tell you about yourself. What if I said white women smell like wet dog???

I wouldn’t say rude. I’d say factual and true. PP didn’t intend to hurt anyone’s feelings, just stating facts. If I was two tons of fun and someone said I smell like a$$, my feelings wouldn’t be hurt and it’s time for me to take a shower.
Suck it up buttercup.

Yep. And I'm white and cook 24/7 and avoid using curry because of how much it sticks to you. That and heavy incense is a very bad combo

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Anonymous wrote:Dear goodness, is this always the same obsessed poster?

You need to look clean and put-together, OP, whoever you consort with. Casual means a style (like jeans and a large sweater), it doesn't mean schlumpy (jeans must fit your figure, sweater mustn't pill).

Pay attention to your body: nice clean arch to your brows (don't overpluck), as clear, glowing skin as you can for your skin type and age, soft hands and clean nails, healthy hair. It helps to be reasonably fit and slim. These basics are so important.

If you select something that's edgy, like long nails, or over-the-knee boots, or wild colors of make-up/polish/hair dye, or particularly deep decolletee, whatever it is, remember to have the rest of you be more conservative, otherwise you'll look weird.

OMG! Never choose long nails! That’s a like a blasting neon sign that you are not UMC. I have never met a single UMC woman who has long nails—but their assistants certainly do!

This. The longest I have seen on an UMC professional woman are like Melania Trump's nails. Slightly longer than fingertip length, rounded, and painted pale. That still looks elegant. Most have Kate Middleton nails which are fingertip length, rounded, and not polished.

I have seen many UMC women have longer nails, but they generally dont work in DC and are in more fashion forward fields like entertainment, PR, fashion etc and live in places like New York or Los Angeles. But yeah, youre not gonna find many feds with long acrylics

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Nyc finance, sales, crypto, media umc millennial and gen z women have longer nails.

Yep. For many of these UMC women, it's a status symbol. "Look at my job and how i can afford to pay for these elaborate nails and am allowed to wear whatever the F I want at work and still make bank." Same thing with dying your hair elaborate colors. It's conspicuous consumption. But it's definitely not the DC government worker crowd

It’s kind of that but not at the same time. Nyc is straight up more international só style cues will have a more international flavor..and in style capitals abroad, umc women totally have longer nails.

And op is an international woman, not a basic white woman. That has benefits big time if you play to your strengths

Nothing "basic" about being a white woman, but yeah. I'm talking more about LA style and NYC as well which is all about conspicuous status. Miami as well. And the long nails are in big time as are unique hair colors. It's kind of a power play.

Yeah I agree, my younger sister (29) is a corporate lawyer in another city and was getting those pointy acrylics for a while. I think it was sort of like "I'm so good at my job, I can have edgy nails and no one can tell me anything" kind of thing. I think for it to work the rest of your style needs to be a little more fashion-forward (which hers is). I'm a 36yo fed lawyer and am firmly in the short rounded camp, as is every other female lawyer here in DC basically.

Anyway, I wouldn't expect any straight man to appreciate those nuances and I think your nails can look however they want, OP

Who attracted higher caliber men, her or you?

I have a friend with long nails and she's always dating extremely "high caliber" men