Beauty and Grooming habits to appeal to "UMC type" men

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Anonymous wrote:Dear goodness, is this always the same obsessed poster?

You need to look clean and put-together, OP, whoever you consort with. Casual means a style (like jeans and a large sweater), it doesn't mean schlumpy (jeans must fit your figure, sweater mustn't pill).

Pay attention to your body: nice clean arch to your brows (don't overpluck), as clear, glowing skin as you can for your skin type and age, soft hands and clean nails, healthy hair. It helps to be reasonably fit and slim. These basics are so important.

If you select something that's edgy, like long nails, or over-the-knee boots, or wild colors of make-up/polish/hair dye, or particularly deep decolletee, whatever it is, remember to have the rest of you be more conservative, otherwise you'll look weird.

OMG! Never choose long nails! That’s a like a blasting neon sign that you are not UMC. I have never met a single UMC woman who has long nails—but their assistants certainly do!

This. The longest I have seen on an UMC professional woman are like Melania Trump's nails. Slightly longer than fingertip length, rounded, and painted pale. That still looks elegant. Most have Kate Middleton nails which are fingertip length, rounded, and not polished.

I have seen many UMC women have longer nails, but they generally dont work in DC and are in more fashion forward fields like entertainment, PR, fashion etc and live in places like New York or Los Angeles. But yeah, youre not gonna find many feds with long acrylics

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Nyc finance, sales, crypto, media umc millennial and gen z women have longer nails.

Yep. For many of these UMC women, it's a status symbol. "Look at my job and how i can afford to pay for these elaborate nails and am allowed to wear whatever the F I want at work and still make bank." Same thing with dying your hair elaborate colors. It's conspicuous consumption. But it's definitely not the DC government worker crowd

It’s kind of that but not at the same time. Nyc is straight up more international só style cues will have a more international flavor..and in style capitals abroad, umc women totally have longer nails.

And op is an international woman, not a basic white woman. That has benefits big time if you play to your strengths

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear goodness, is this always the same obsessed poster?

You need to look clean and put-together, OP, whoever you consort with. Casual means a style (like jeans and a large sweater), it doesn't mean schlumpy (jeans must fit your figure, sweater mustn't pill).

Pay attention to your body: nice clean arch to your brows (don't overpluck), as clear, glowing skin as you can for your skin type and age, soft hands and clean nails, healthy hair. It helps to be reasonably fit and slim. These basics are so important.

If you select something that's edgy, like long nails, or over-the-knee boots, or wild colors of make-up/polish/hair dye, or particularly deep decolletee, whatever it is, remember to have the rest of you be more conservative, otherwise you'll look weird.

OMG! Never choose long nails! That’s a like a blasting neon sign that you are not UMC. I have never met a single UMC woman who has long nails—but their assistants certainly do!

This. The longest I have seen on an UMC professional woman are like Melania Trump's nails. Slightly longer than fingertip length, rounded, and painted pale. That still looks elegant. Most have Kate Middleton nails which are fingertip length, rounded, and not polished.

I have seen many UMC women have longer nails, but they generally dont work in DC and are in more fashion forward fields like entertainment, PR, fashion etc and live in places like New York or Los Angeles. But yeah, youre not gonna find many feds with long acrylics

+1

Nyc finance, sales, crypto, media umc millennial and gen z women have longer nails.

Yep. For many of these UMC women, it's a status symbol. "Look at my job and how i can afford to pay for these elaborate nails and am allowed to wear whatever the F I want at work and still make bank." Same thing with dying your hair elaborate colors. It's conspicuous consumption. But it's definitely not the DC government worker crowd

It’s kind of that but not at the same time. Nyc is straight up more international só style cues will have a more international flavor..and in style capitals abroad, umc women totally have longer nails.

And op is an international woman, not a basic white woman. That has benefits big time if you play to your strengths

Nothing "basic" about being a white woman, but yeah. I'm talking more about LA style and NYC as well which is all about conspicuous status. Miami as well. And the long nails are in big time as are unique hair colors. It's kind of a power play.

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I don't think any of this helps "appeal to UMC men." This is about how to fit in with UMC women. Men don't care about any of this stuff. To appeal to men, wear flattering clothes and makeup and be confident and flirty

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear goodness, is this always the same obsessed poster?

You need to look clean and put-together, OP, whoever you consort with. Casual means a style (like jeans and a large sweater), it doesn't mean schlumpy (jeans must fit your figure, sweater mustn't pill).

Pay attention to your body: nice clean arch to your brows (don't overpluck), as clear, glowing skin as you can for your skin type and age, soft hands and clean nails, healthy hair. It helps to be reasonably fit and slim. These basics are so important.

If you select something that's edgy, like long nails, or over-the-knee boots, or wild colors of make-up/polish/hair dye, or particularly deep decolletee, whatever it is, remember to have the rest of you be more conservative, otherwise you'll look weird.

OMG! Never choose long nails! That’s a like a blasting neon sign that you are not UMC. I have never met a single UMC woman who has long nails—but their assistants certainly do!

This. The longest I have seen on an UMC professional woman are like Melania Trump's nails. Slightly longer than fingertip length, rounded, and painted pale. That still looks elegant. Most have Kate Middleton nails which are fingertip length, rounded, and not polished.

I have seen many UMC women have longer nails, but they generally dont work in DC and are in more fashion forward fields like entertainment, PR, fashion etc and live in places like New York or Los Angeles. But yeah, youre not gonna find many feds with long acrylics

+1

Nyc finance, sales, crypto, media umc millennial and gen z women have longer nails.

Yep. For many of these UMC women, it's a status symbol. "Look at my job and how i can afford to pay for these elaborate nails and am allowed to wear whatever the F I want at work and still make bank." Same thing with dying your hair elaborate colors. It's conspicuous consumption. But it's definitely not the DC government worker crowd

It’s kind of that but not at the same time. Nyc is straight up more international só style cues will have a more international flavor..and in style capitals abroad, umc women totally have longer nails.

And op is an international woman, not a basic white woman. That has benefits big time if you play to your strengths

Nothing "basic" about being a white woman, but yeah. I'm talking more about LA style and NYC as well which is all about conspicuous status. Miami as well. And the long nails are in big time as are unique hair colors. It's kind of a power play.

Yeah I agree, my younger sister (29) is a corporate lawyer in another city and was getting those pointy acrylics for a while. I think it was sort of like "I'm so good at my job, I can have edgy nails and no one can tell me anything" kind of thing. I think for it to work the rest of your style needs to be a little more fashion-forward (which hers is). I'm a 36yo fed lawyer and am firmly in the short rounded camp, as is every other female lawyer here in DC basically.

Anyway, I wouldn't expect any straight man to appreciate those nuances and I think your nails can look however they want, OP

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"UMC" is a pretty broad category. We're not rich, but an Ivied-degreed man married to an Ivied-degree woman, so I think we qualify as UMC. She wears LL Bean and Ann Taylor clothes, gets her hair cut twice a year (never styled or colored), almost never wears makeup, and never does anything to her nails. So that's one example. There are a few million others, and some are at the other extreme.

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Anonymous wrote:If you were actually UMC, you would know this already and do it naturally.

Usually this is true unless you are an immigrant

OP here, I am an immigrant and Pakistani.

DP. The US isn't as class-based as you seem to think it is and there are generally no accurate markers that identify people as one versus the other (short of looking unkept and unclean). Plenty of UMC people don't look it, and plenty of MC people try to look like they have more money than they actually do. It can be difficult to tell who truly is UMC or MC.

I am curious as to why you think people are "mistaking" you as belonging to a different social class. Unfortunately, how others treat you may have less to do with how much money they think you have than it does with the fact that you aren't white. Without more context, it's hard to say what may be happening.

But generally, you just need to look put together and have good personal hygiene. I'm sure you already do both of those things.

I know a grandkid of a near billionaire who’s always in tshirts and sweats. You just can’t assume anything about people and really shouldn’t.

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For OP: just find guys like me, who like Indian women no matter what they are wearing. Your advantage: you probably look good in any color.

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As far as putting on the right make-up, for your foundation you should be using a good B.A. and then contour with an M.A. or professional degree.

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Anonymous wrote:Like a WASP.

You cannot look like a WASP if youre Pakistani. It would be literally impossible.

Better to give OP some real, actionable advice. Make sure you look clean, spray some perfume on, make sure you're not cooking with heavily smelly middle eastern flavors like curry as that can stick to you, wear flattering clothes that show off your figure, master a pretty, flattering makeup routine.

Good lord.

I know, right? 😬

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Anonymous wrote:For OP: just find guys like me, who like Indian women no matter what they are wearing. Your advantage: you probably look good in any color.

She said she was from Pakistan.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like a WASP.

You cannot look like a WASP if youre Pakistani. It would be literally impossible.

Better to give OP some real, actionable advice. Make sure you look clean, spray some perfume on, make sure you're not cooking with heavily smelly middle eastern flavors like curry as that can stick to you, wear flattering clothes that show off your figure, master a pretty, flattering makeup routine.

I’m Asian American. I grew up with immigrant parents. Now we are UMC with a seven figure income.

Most days I wear athleisure. I like my clothes well fitted. I wear a lot of dresses. Like many women, I like both Kate Middleton and Megan’s style.

I do not try to look like a WASP. I recently started liking lily Pulitzer. Never liked it before.

We live in McLean where there is a large international presence. You don’t have to look like a WASP to be rich.

There are Americanized Middle Eastern and South Asian women. The more attractive ones have a pretty face, beautiful hair, tall, thin and very polished. I think the clothes matter less because they look stunning in anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear goodness, is this always the same obsessed poster?

You need to look clean and put-together, OP, whoever you consort with. Casual means a style (like jeans and a large sweater), it doesn't mean schlumpy (jeans must fit your figure, sweater mustn't pill).

Pay attention to your body: nice clean arch to your brows (don't overpluck), as clear, glowing skin as you can for your skin type and age, soft hands and clean nails, healthy hair. It helps to be reasonably fit and slim. These basics are so important.

If you select something that's edgy, like long nails, or over-the-knee boots, or wild colors of make-up/polish/hair dye, or particularly deep decolletee, whatever it is, remember to have the rest of you be more conservative, otherwise you'll look weird.

OMG! Never choose long nails! That’s a like a blasting neon sign that you are not UMC. I have never met a single UMC woman who has long nails—but their assistants certainly do!

This. The longest I have seen on an UMC professional woman are like Melania Trump's nails. Slightly longer than fingertip length, rounded, and painted pale. That still looks elegant. Most have Kate Middleton nails which are fingertip length, rounded, and not polished.

I have seen many UMC women have longer nails, but they generally dont work in DC and are in more fashion forward fields like entertainment, PR, fashion etc and live in places like New York or Los Angeles. But yeah, youre not gonna find many feds with long acrylics

+1

Nyc finance, sales, crypto, media umc millennial and gen z women have longer nails.

Yep. For many of these UMC women, it's a status symbol. "Look at my job and how i can afford to pay for these elaborate nails and am allowed to wear whatever the F I want at work and still make bank." Same thing with dying your hair elaborate colors. It's conspicuous consumption. But it's definitely not the DC government worker crowd

It’s kind of that but not at the same time. Nyc is straight up more international só style cues will have a more international flavor..and in style capitals abroad, umc women totally have longer nails.

And op is an international woman, not a basic white woman. That has benefits big time if you play to your strengths

Nothing "basic" about being a white woman, but yeah. I'm talking more about LA style and NYC as well which is all about conspicuous status. Miami as well. And the long nails are in big time as are unique hair colors. It's kind of a power play.

Yeah I agree, my younger sister (29) is a corporate lawyer in another city and was getting those pointy acrylics for a while. I think it was sort of like "I'm so good at my job, I can have edgy nails and no one can tell me anything" kind of thing. I think for it to work the rest of your style needs to be a little more fashion-forward (which hers is). I'm a 36yo fed lawyer and am firmly in the short rounded camp, as is every other female lawyer here in DC basically.

Anyway, I wouldn't expect any straight man to appreciate those nuances and I think your nails can look however they want, OP

Who attracted higher caliber men, her or you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear goodness, is this always the same obsessed poster?

You need to look clean and put-together, OP, whoever you consort with. Casual means a style (like jeans and a large sweater), it doesn't mean schlumpy (jeans must fit your figure, sweater mustn't pill).

Pay attention to your body: nice clean arch to your brows (don't overpluck), as clear, glowing skin as you can for your skin type and age, soft hands and clean nails, healthy hair. It helps to be reasonably fit and slim. These basics are so important.

If you select something that's edgy, like long nails, or over-the-knee boots, or wild colors of make-up/polish/hair dye, or particularly deep decolletee, whatever it is, remember to have the rest of you be more conservative, otherwise you'll look weird.

OMG! Never choose long nails! That’s a like a blasting neon sign that you are not UMC. I have never met a single UMC woman who has long nails—but their assistants certainly do!

This. The longest I have seen on an UMC professional woman are like Melania Trump's nails. Slightly longer than fingertip length, rounded, and painted pale. That still looks elegant. Most have Kate Middleton nails which are fingertip length, rounded, and not polished.

I have seen many UMC women have longer nails, but they generally dont work in DC and are in more fashion forward fields like entertainment, PR, fashion etc and live in places like New York or Los Angeles. But yeah, youre not gonna find many feds with long acrylics

+1

Nyc finance, sales, crypto, media umc millennial and gen z women have longer nails.

Yep. For many of these UMC women, it's a status symbol. "Look at my job and how i can afford to pay for these elaborate nails and am allowed to wear whatever the F I want at work and still make bank." Same thing with dying your hair elaborate colors. It's conspicuous consumption. But it's definitely not the DC government worker crowd

It’s kind of that but not at the same time. Nyc is straight up more international só style cues will have a more international flavor..and in style capitals abroad, umc women totally have longer nails.

And op is an international woman, not a basic white woman. That has benefits big time if you play to your strengths

Nothing "basic" about being a white woman, but yeah. I'm talking more about LA style and NYC as well which is all about conspicuous status. Miami as well. And the long nails are in big time as are unique hair colors. It's kind of a power play.

Yeah I agree, my younger sister (29) is a corporate lawyer in another city and was getting those pointy acrylics for a while. I think it was sort of like "I'm so good at my job, I can have edgy nails and no one can tell me anything" kind of thing. I think for it to work the rest of your style needs to be a little more fashion-forward (which hers is). I'm a 36yo fed lawyer and am firmly in the short rounded camp, as is every other female lawyer here in DC basically.

Anyway, I wouldn't expect any straight man to appreciate those nuances and I think your nails can look however they want, OP

Who attracted higher caliber men, her or you?

NP. I would guess the younger sister, but not necessarily to marry her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like a WASP.

You cannot look like a WASP if youre Pakistani. It would be literally impossible.

Better to give OP some real, actionable advice. Make sure you look clean, spray some perfume on, make sure you're not cooking with heavily smelly middle eastern flavors like curry as that can stick to you, wear flattering clothes that show off your figure, master a pretty, flattering makeup routine.

Good lord.

What? It's true. The Korean women in my office reek of oil. The black women smll like fast food. The white men smell like cheap deodorent. Those are just facts.

[Anonymous]

Umm… you go to a shop with expensive clothes you like? Buy and wear? Or go to Nordstrom and get a personal shopper. Tell them your budget.