Is Book of Mormon mocking Mormons and if so, why is that ok?

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i hated Book of Mormon and i'm not mormon. i just don't think jokes about raping babies is that funny. (and yes, i saw it and yes, there was a joke about that.)

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Anonymous wrote:It's okay because it's a made up "religion", like Scientology.

Hahahahaha name one religion that isn’t “made up.”

Read "Under the Banner of Heaven" and "Going Clear." L. Ron Hubbard just took a page out of the Jospeh Smith playbook. They are both transparently made up religions.

this probably sounds offensive, but whatever. Granted I only know three Mormons (and their families) but all three of them are super smart and accomplished. one of them is my neighbor. his PhD is in nuclear physics or something like that from UC Berkeley. And his wife has a master's degree in French literature. Genuinely nice people, very well put together, super sweet and well behaved kids. It just...like... damn, for folks who believe that Joseph Smith made the correct translation for the Book of Mormon off of hieroglyphics on a golden plate in upstate New York... ya'll sure are educated and have your sh*t together.

I really don't get it.

Former Mormon here. I see where you're coming from, but think of how many people believe in the literal virgin birth or any number of christian beliefs. In the US we are very entrenched in Judeo Christian monotheism so it's hard to see just how weird it is, but if you take a step back, it's weird.

The difference between christianity or judiasm and LDS is that there are historical documents that confirm that certain people existed at times that the bible says they did. The Romans took a census/censuses/censii.

However, absolutely nothing other than Joseph Smith being a real person can be confirmed of any of their beliefs. That's a big difference. And that doesn't scratch the surface of looking into Joseph Smith, the person.

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Anonymous wrote:i hated Book of Mormon and i'm not mormon. i just don't think jokes about raping babies is that funny. (and yes, i saw it and yes, there was a joke about that.)

I believe early in the AIDS crisis there was a belief amongst some on the African continent that sex with a young Virgin has curative powers. It is an idea that has been around awhile, they didn’t invent it, but it wasn’t in the show just to make a baby rape joke for fun. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_cleansing_myth

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Anonymous wrote:It's okay because it's a made up "religion", like Scientology.

Hahahahaha name one religion that isn’t “made up.”

Read "Under the Banner of Heaven" and "Going Clear." L. Ron Hubbard just took a page out of the Jospeh Smith playbook. They are both transparently made up religions.

this probably sounds offensive, but whatever. Granted I only know three Mormons (and their families) but all three of them are super smart and accomplished. one of them is my neighbor. his PhD is in nuclear physics or something like that from UC Berkeley. And his wife has a master's degree in French literature. Genuinely nice people, very well put together, super sweet and well behaved kids. It just...like... damn, for folks who believe that Joseph Smith made the correct translation for the Book of Mormon off of hieroglyphics on a golden plate in upstate New York... ya'll sure are educated and have your sh*t together.

I really don't get it.

Former Mormon here. I see where you're coming from, but think of how many people believe in the literal virgin birth or any number of christian beliefs. In the US we are very entrenched in Judeo Christian monotheism so it's hard to see just how weird it is, but if you take a step back, it's weird.

The difference between christianity or judiasm and LDS is that there are historical documents that confirm that certain people existed at times that the bible says they did. The Romans took a census/censuses/censii.

However, absolutely nothing other than Joseph Smith being a real person can be confirmed of any of their beliefs. That's a big difference. And that doesn't scratch the surface of looking into Joseph Smith, the person.

First of all, so what? There is no historical evidence that can prove the existence of god or that all these beliefs that religious adherents have are from god. Personally, I think made them up! Look at the council of Nicea and all the debates about all the religious doctrines that were had by men and decided upon by a vote or by rule of a crazy Roman emperor. Just because it’s clear that Jesus and Paul actually existed doesn’t mean that Jesus was divine or that God told Paul why to write in the epistles.

Second, I believe that the reason we know so much of Joseph Smith’s crazy history is because we actually have a history of it. How many first hand accounts by those who opposed Moses do we have today?

Third, there isn’t a lot of historical evidence for what happened in the Bible, not even 40-year wandering in the wilderness.

This is what happens when you do some research and stop believing in the weird faith you were born into. You realize that the rabbit hole goes all the way down. Most of my friends have left the church after learning about odd details of our religion. But their inquiry into religion didn’t stop with Joseph smith.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep hearing how funny Book of Mormons is. I’m not a Mormon and am not particularly a fan of Mormonism, but I do wonder why it’s ok to have a musical that mocks a religion. Swap out Mormonism for Judaism or Catholicism and tell me if it works. Or am I misunderstanding what the show is about? I’m curious to hear from people who have seen it.

Op, I think there is space to poke fun at any religion, but there are lines that should not be crossed. It IS possible to go too far.

I don't have a problem with poking fun at Catholicism or Judaism, or Mormomism...but I did not ferl comfortable eith BOM. I just can't get with the mantra of "F--- god" and some of the other references. I don't even believe in god! But, I can't get with a joyful singing of sime of the stuff in that show.

My favorite part was the chorus of mormon guys. But, to me, the storyline and tagline go too far.

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Typos: I did not feel comfortable with Book of Mormon.

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Anonymous wrote:First of all, so what? There is no historical evidence that can prove the existence of god or that all these beliefs that religious adherents have are from god. Personally, I think made them up! Look at the council of Nicea and all the debates about all the religious doctrines that were had by men and decided upon by a vote or by rule of a crazy Roman emperor. Just because it’s clear that Jesus and Paul actually existed doesn’t mean that Jesus was divine or that God told Paul why to write in the epistles.

Second, I believe that the reason we know so much of Joseph Smith’s crazy history is because we actually have a history of it. How many first hand accounts by those who opposed Moses do we have today?

Third, there isn’t a lot of historical evidence for what happened in the Bible, not even 40-year wandering in the wilderness.

This is what happens when you do some research and stop believing in the weird faith you were born into. You realize that the rabbit hole goes all the way down. Most of my friends have left the church after learning about odd details of our religion. But their inquiry into religion didn’t stop with Joseph smith.

DP. There’s a massive difference between recording the myths and stories that have descended through millennia and totally making sht up. The stories in the Bible were old when they went in.

Joseph Smith started his cult to make money and get power. I’m sorry, but the idea of the buried golden plates and the lost tribe of Israel and seer stone in the bottom of a hat… it’s silly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i hated Book of Mormon and i'm not mormon. i just don't think jokes about raping babies is that funny. (and yes, i saw it and yes, there was a joke about that.)

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I keep hearing how funny Book of Mormons is. I’m not a Mormon and am not particularly a fan of Mormonism, but I do wonder why it’s ok to have a musical that mocks a religion. Swap out Mormonism for Judaism or Catholicism and tell me if it works. Or am I misunderstanding what the show is about? I’m curious to hear from people who have seen it.

Op, I think there is space to poke fun at any religion, but there are lines that should not be crossed. It IS possible to go too far.

I don't have a problem with poking fun at Catholicism or Judaism, or Mormomism...but I did not ferl comfortable eith BOM. I just can't get with the mantra of "F--- god" and some of the other references. I don't even believe in god! But, I can't get with a joyful singing of sime of the stuff in that show.

My favorite part was the chorus of mormon guys. But, to me, the storyline and tagline go too far.

Im always amazed at how many people don’t get satire and humor. If you are that literal just watch Two and a Half Men. The F- God stuff was mocking the romanticized idea of the poor but happy Africans and the Hakuna Matata - stories that Westerners seem to like so much. Meanwhile there is horrible poverty, poor health infrastructure, high infant mortality etc….. so the F - God song is turning that on its head and reminding us that there are a lot of problems and has people responding in the way any rational persons would. Please don’t make me walk you through the whole show.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it is a batsh*t crazy religion.

So is Islam, but we're not making plays mocking it.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fine. Mormons/LDS is not a religion. It’s a cult. It should be mocked.

What's the difference? Any why shouldn't religions also be mocked (assuming there's a difference?)

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Anonymous wrote:I keep hearing how funny Book of Mormons is. I’m not a Mormon and am not particularly a fan of Mormonism, but I do wonder why it’s ok to have a musical that mocks a religion. Swap out Mormonism for Judaism or Catholicism and tell me if it works. Or am I misunderstanding what the show is about? I’m curious to hear from people who have seen it.

Op, I think there is space to poke fun at any religion, but there are lines that should not be crossed. It IS possible to go too far.

I don't have a problem with poking fun at Catholicism or Judaism, or Mormomism...but I did not ferl comfortable eith BOM. I just can't get with the mantra of "F--- god" and some of the other references. I don't even believe in god! But, I can't get with a joyful singing of sime of the stuff in that show.

My favorite part was the chorus of mormon guys. But, to me, the storyline and tagline go too far.

Im always amazed at how many people don’t get satire and humor. If you are that literal just watch Two and a Half Men. The F- God stuff was mocking the romanticized idea of the poor but happy Africans and the Hakuna Matata - stories that Westerners seem to like so much. Meanwhile there is horrible poverty, poor health infrastructure, high infant mortality etc….. so the F - God song is turning that on its head and reminding us that there are a lot of problems and has people responding in the way any rational persons would. Please don’t make me walk you through the whole show.

You don't need to walk me through the whole show! I'm quite capable of having my own legitimate reaction to the show, having seen it at the K Center. Some people are cool with profanity or different things in their "entertainment." For me, I just can't find that "entertaining." I also don't like horror movies or very violent action movies. It's not what I want in my life during my time on Earth. It just felt too offensive to religion in general to be cheering with that phrase. And I don't find infant sex/rape/beastiality in good taste.

I really like the poking fun at Mormonism and the singing/tapdancing chorus. But, I would not go to it again, and I feel like I wasted my money on it. Too crass for me.

[Anonymous]

It's okay because it's funny. That's my whole answer.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fine. Mormons/LDS is not a religion. It’s a cult. It should be mocked.

What's the difference? Any why shouldn't religions also be mocked (assuming there's a difference?)

If you have to ask you’re not worth the explanation.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep hearing how funny Book of Mormons is. I’m not a Mormon and am not particularly a fan of Mormonism, but I do wonder why it’s ok to have a musical that mocks a religion. Swap out Mormonism for Judaism or Catholicism and tell me if it works. Or am I misunderstanding what the show is about? I’m curious to hear from people who have seen it.

Op, I think there is space to poke fun at any religion, but there are lines that should not be crossed. It IS possible to go too far.

I don't have a problem with poking fun at Catholicism or Judaism, or Mormomism...but I did not ferl comfortable eith BOM. I just can't get with the mantra of "F--- god" and some of the other references. I don't even believe in god! But, I can't get with a joyful singing of sime of the stuff in that show.

My favorite part was the chorus of mormon guys. But, to me, the storyline and tagline go too far.

Im always amazed at how many people don’t get satire and humor. If you are that literal just watch Two and a Half Men. The F- God stuff was mocking the romanticized idea of the poor but happy Africans and the Hakuna Matata - stories that Westerners seem to like so much. Meanwhile there is horrible poverty, poor health infrastructure, high infant mortality etc….. so the F - God song is turning that on its head and reminding us that there are a lot of problems and has people responding in the way any rational persons would. Please don’t make me walk you through the whole show.

You don't need to walk me through the whole show! I'm quite capable of having my own legitimate reaction to the show, having seen it at the K Center. Some people are cool with profanity or different things in their "entertainment." For me, I just can't find that "entertaining." I also don't like horror movies or very violent action movies. It's not what I want in my life during my time on Earth. It just felt too offensive to religion in general to be cheering with that phrase. And I don't find infant sex/rape/beastiality in good taste.

I really like the poking fun at Mormonism and the singing/tapdancing chorus. But, I would not go to it again, and I feel like I wasted my money on it. Too crass for me.

So weird that you paid money to see a show that is incredibly well known for it’s language and crass humor. I cannot imagine being a prude and paying the cost of the tickets for a show I would clearly not like.