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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's okay because it's a made up "religion", like Scientology.[/quote]

Hahahahaha name one religion that isn’t “made up.”[/quote]

Read "Under the Banner of Heaven" and "Going Clear." L. Ron Hubbard just took a page out of the Jospeh Smith playbook. They are both transparently made up religions. [/quote]
this probably sounds offensive, but whatever. Granted I only know three Mormons (and their families) but all three of them are super smart and accomplished. one of them is my neighbor. his PhD is in nuclear physics or something like that from UC Berkeley. And his wife has a master's degree in French literature. Genuinely nice people, very well put together, super sweet and well behaved kids. It just...like... damn, for folks who believe that Joseph Smith made the correct translation for the Book of Mormon off of hieroglyphics on a golden plate in upstate New York... ya'll sure are educated and have your sh*t together.

I really don't get it. [/quote]

Former Mormon here. I see where you're coming from, but think of how many people believe in the literal virgin birth or any number of christian beliefs. In the US we are very entrenched in Judeo Christian monotheism so it's hard to see just how weird it is, but if you take a step back, it's weird. [/quote]

The difference between christianity or judiasm and LDS is that there are historical documents that confirm that certain people existed at times that the bible says they did.  The Romans took a census/censuses/censii.

However, absolutely nothing other than Joseph Smith being a real person can be confirmed of any of their beliefs.  That's a big difference.  And that doesn't scratch the surface of looking into Joseph Smith, the person.[/quote]

First of all, so what? There is no historical evidence that can prove the existence of god or that all these beliefs that religious adherents have are from god. Personally, I think made them up! Look at the council of Nicea and all the debates about all the religious doctrines that were had by men and decided upon by a vote or by rule of a crazy Roman emperor. Just because it’s clear that Jesus and Paul actually existed doesn’t mean that Jesus was divine or that God told Paul why to write in the epistles.

Second, I believe that the reason we know so much of Joseph Smith’s crazy history is because we actually have a history of it. How many first hand accounts by those who opposed Moses do we have today?

Third, there isn’t a lot of historical evidence for what happened in the Bible, not even 40-year wandering in the wilderness.

This is what happens when you do some research and stop believing in the weird faith you were born into. You realize that the rabbit hole goes all the way down. Most of my friends have left the church after learning about odd details of our religion.  But their inquiry into religion didn’t stop with Joseph smith. [/quote]

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