Where are the referees?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is an example of the parental lunacy:

Posting video of a close offsides/non offsides call in a game
An AR is running in the background in good position and no flag goes up but instead of accepting a close judgment call by the Center and AR or understanding blue 5 made the wrong defensive choice taking herself out of position, instead we post on the Internet seeking affirmation that we were wronged horribly. Weird adult behavior to take away from your child’s sport. I can only imagine the car rides home: Princess you were wronged that wasn’t a goal let’s storm the capitol and sit in the speakers chair

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FdCXre8eoMY&t=1s

I have no ties to any of the people who posted this video or anyone playing in this video or any of the officials. So I watched this video and I said..."boy, she looks offside. I can see how that's frustrating." The video ended and some other video of the parent played on YouTube. It was some good editing and very short. Next video was the entire match that included this clip of the "offside goal". Arlington vs GFR 09G ECNL-R So I fast forwarded through the video to see this sequence during the full video. The editing including the score and time so it was pretty easy to find. With that said...I want to add that the AR on the far side of the field dressed in official referee kit so I assume she is a certified referee. I say this because sometimes centers who use parent linesmen don't allow uncertified linesmen to call offside. So I'm assuming the far AR is a certified referee. What you don't see in the short clip is that this AR actually raised her flag to signal the offside but the center ref either didn't look at her or over ruled her because he awarded the goal and then blew his whistle to end the first half. Quite puzzling. With that said...the AR did not raise the flag directly over her head to indicate offside. She raised it level. Maybe the center didn't see the flag because of this. Not sure. The correct mechanics are to raise your flag straight up. Once the center blows his/her whistle and acknowledges offside, then the AR lowers the flag to indicate where on the field the offside occurred. 10/11 o'clock = far third of the field. 9 o'clock is middle third of the field, 7/8 0'clock is near third of the field. In addition, after a goal is scored, the AR should run up the sideline 15-20 yards. When the center saw the AR standing still that should have indicated a problem. However, the AR just put her flag down and walked away. She should have stood there until the center came over to discuss. So quite a few things going on here. So when I first watched the video I thought it was an example of parents losing their mind over an offside that wasn't called by the AR that lead to a goal. There was a little more to it. And it doesn't even sound like the parents tore up the ref. Anyway...

Good work Watson!

The point is that parents are posting close calls on the internet for affirmation of their criticism/ignorance

In the full video the goal did not count and was disallowed my dear Watson, and it was a parent AR on the far side raising his flag as well from a position he could not make a call. OP correctly posted this as an example of having close calls posted and questioned

OK, so the goal didn't count. They got the call correct then. That's great then. So a parent AR got all decked out in a full referee kit to run the line? I mean she has the correct socks and all. I thought the center awarded the gaol because he turned to the center circle but I guess that was to end the half. I appreciate the correction.

Good grief Watson. The far side AR was in yellow. The near side AR was not. The goal did not count. The camera angle does not allow anyone to second guess the real time decision. And crazy people are posting it on internet

[Anonymous]

This thread is convincing me that my teenager was right to stop refereeing games. It is youth soccer. The games are literally irrelevant, yet you have insane people posting to YouTube, harassing teenagers, and screaming at the top of their lungs. Absolutely nuts.

[Anonymous]

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SoccerRef wrote:Personally, I only ref adult games now.
Just not worth the aggravation to do youth.

Doesn't matter how thick your skin is, or how experienced you are...listening to parents scream all game just isn't enjoyable for me.

You're part of the problem.

Is this a troll post? How is someone deciding not to deal with crazy parents part of the problem? Wouldn’t the aggravation in youth soccer be the problem?

Did you not see the subject line? There's a referee shortage and this guy is part of that problem.

Because he's not doing youth games?

Does that mean you *are*?

Correct. He's literally part of the problem.

I don’t think you understand the problem. But maybe we should focus on solutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is an example of the parental lunacy:

Posting video of a close offsides/non offsides call in a game
An AR is running in the background in good position and no flag goes up but instead of accepting a close judgment call by the Center and AR or understanding blue 5 made the wrong defensive choice taking herself out of position, instead we post on the Internet seeking affirmation that we were wronged horribly. Weird adult behavior to take away from your child’s sport. I can only imagine the car rides home: Princess you were wronged that wasn’t a goal let’s storm the capitol and sit in the speakers chair

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FdCXre8eoMY&t=1s

I have no ties to any of the people who posted this video or anyone playing in this video or any of the officials. So I watched this video and I said..."boy, she looks offside. I can see how that's frustrating." The video ended and some other video of the parent played on YouTube. It was some good editing and very short. Next video was the entire match that included this clip of the "offside goal". Arlington vs GFR 09G ECNL-R So I fast forwarded through the video to see this sequence during the full video. The editing including the score and time so it was pretty easy to find. With that said...I want to add that the AR on the far side of the field dressed in official referee kit so I assume she is a certified referee. I say this because sometimes centers who use parent linesmen don't allow uncertified linesmen to call offside. So I'm assuming the far AR is a certified referee. What you don't see in the short clip is that this AR actually raised her flag to signal the offside but the center ref either didn't look at her or over ruled her because he awarded the goal and then blew his whistle to end the first half. Quite puzzling. With that said...the AR did not raise the flag directly over her head to indicate offside. She raised it level. Maybe the center didn't see the flag because of this. Not sure. The correct mechanics are to raise your flag straight up. Once the center blows his/her whistle and acknowledges offside, then the AR lowers the flag to indicate where on the field the offside occurred. 10/11 o'clock = far third of the field. 9 o'clock is middle third of the field, 7/8 0'clock is near third of the field. In addition, after a goal is scored, the AR should run up the sideline 15-20 yards. When the center saw the AR standing still that should have indicated a problem. However, the AR just put her flag down and walked away. She should have stood there until the center came over to discuss. So quite a few things going on here. So when I first watched the video I thought it was an example of parents losing their mind over an offside that wasn't called by the AR that lead to a goal. There was a little more to it. And it doesn't even sound like the parents tore up the ref. Anyway...

Good work Watson!

The point is that parents are posting close calls on the internet for affirmation of their criticism/ignorance

In the full video the goal did not count and was disallowed my dear Watson, and it was a parent AR on the far side raising his flag as well from a position he could not make a call. OP correctly posted this as an example of having close calls posted and questioned

OK, so the goal didn't count. They got the call correct then. That's great then. So a parent AR got all decked out in a full referee kit to run the line? I mean she has the correct socks and all. I thought the center awarded the gaol because he turned to the center circle but I guess that was to end the half. I appreciate the correction.

Good grief Watson. The far side AR was in yellow. The near side AR was not. The goal did not count. The camera angle does not allow anyone to second guess the real time decision. And crazy people are posting it on internet

I don't think one person is second guessing the call. Everyone is in agreement that it was offside. It was the correct call. I don't understand what's in question.

[Anonymous]

Omg 14:47, get a life! Wow.

[Anonymous]

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SoccerRef wrote:Personally, I only ref adult games now.
Just not worth the aggravation to do youth.

Doesn't matter how thick your skin is, or how experienced you are...listening to parents scream all game just isn't enjoyable for me.

You're part of the problem.

Is this a troll post? How is someone deciding not to deal with crazy parents part of the problem? Wouldn’t the aggravation in youth soccer be the problem?

Did you not see the subject line? There's a referee shortage and this guy is part of that problem.

Are you a ref? If not, then you are part of the problem and so are all the parents on my kids teams' and ...

[Anonymous]

There’s gotta be a YouTube channel or Instagram account that is all about posting videos of awful soccer parent behavior. Is there one or a few? Can ppl share if you know of one?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

SoccerRef wrote:Personally, I only ref adult games now.
Just not worth the aggravation to do youth.

Doesn't matter how thick your skin is, or how experienced you are...listening to parents scream all game just isn't enjoyable for me.

You're part of the problem.

Is this a troll post? How is someone deciding not to deal with crazy parents part of the problem? Wouldn’t the aggravation in youth soccer be the problem?

Did you not see the subject line? There's a referee shortage and this guy is part of that problem.

Are you a ref? If not, then you are part of the problem and so are all the parents on my kids teams' and ...

I disagree with the premise that parents are the cause of a perceived shortage in refs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

SoccerRef wrote:Personally, I only ref adult games now.
Just not worth the aggravation to do youth.

Doesn't matter how thick your skin is, or how experienced you are...listening to parents scream all game just isn't enjoyable for me.

You're part of the problem.

Is this a troll post? How is someone deciding not to deal with crazy parents part of the problem? Wouldn’t the aggravation in youth soccer be the problem?

Did you not see the subject line? There's a referee shortage and this guy is part of that problem.

Are you a ref? If not, then you are part of the problem and so are all the parents on my kids teams' and ...

I disagree with the premise that parents are the cause of a perceived shortage in refs.

That's your right, but the shortage is a reality. And in the case of my DS all the asshole parents are the reason he doesn't want to ref anymore. I can't blame him either after what I see during his own games and also the games he refs. It upsets me that all the asshole parents are what is preventing my soccer-loving DS from giving back to the game he loves. Hope all you yellers are happy and I hope all your games are cancelled due to the "perceived" ref shortage. That's the result your crazy should get you. Stop living vicariously through your kids and get your own life. Get out there and ref yourself or shut up and enjoy the show and appreciate those who get off their butts to make sure your DC actually has a game to play in!

[Anonymous]

If you took the time to post on this thread but you are not training to become a ref, you are the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you took the time to post on this thread but you are not training to become a ref, you are the problem.

Drama queen

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

SoccerRef wrote:Personally, I only ref adult games now.
Just not worth the aggravation to do youth.

Doesn't matter how thick your skin is, or how experienced you are...listening to parents scream all game just isn't enjoyable for me.

You're part of the problem.

Is this a troll post? How is someone deciding not to deal with crazy parents part of the problem? Wouldn’t the aggravation in youth soccer be the problem?

Did you not see the subject line? There's a referee shortage and this guy is part of that problem.

Are you a ref? If not, then you are part of the problem and so are all the parents on my kids teams' and ...

I disagree with the premise that parents are the cause of a perceived shortage in refs.

It's definitely the parents. People don't let their teenagers ref any more because of the crazy parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our rec league has one center ref and two line judges for all our U11 games. I can't imagine paying travel money and having no ref. That's bizarre.

My son refs and will only do rec league games.

I ref and some of the absolute worst behavior I've encountered has been in rec league games.

Really find that interesting as I have had kids in both and travel has always seemed much much worse to me.

NP. As a long-time parent, by far the worst parent behavior I saw was in rec.

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Anonymous wrote:Our rec league has one center ref and two line judges for all our U11 games. I can't imagine paying travel money and having no ref. That's bizarre.

My son refs and will only do rec league games.

I ref and some of the absolute worst behavior I've encountered has been in rec league games.

Really find that interesting as I have had kids in both and travel has always seemed much much worse to me.

NP. As a long-time parent, by far the worst parent behavior I saw was in rec.

I once witnessed a parent screaming at a U12 rec player from the opposing team telling him, "You got nuttin! You got nuttin!" and cheering when he's lose the ball. Saying...."See! See! He can't play!" This parent was literally heckling this 11 year old. Why? Because he was the the best player on the other team. Yes. This was rec!

[Anonymous]

I have never seen anything like that in our rec league.