Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

Probably a dumb move but we are going to the wine expo in Richmond next Monday. Probably start hibernating away from people after that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's some more real numbers from South Korea:

5,186 Confirmed
31 Dead
34 Released from treatment

121,039 Total Tested
35,555 Awaiting test results
85,484 Tested Negative

So you're looking at about 90,000 completed tests, with 5186 positives. That's pretty positive, compared to what it looked like at first from numbers coming out of China.

Over 120 THOUSAND people were tested? I’m blowed away by this. Is this since December? How are they doing it logicistically? And how do they have so many test kits??

CDC could have used the already developed WHO test. They decided to make their own complicated test instead.

I assume because the cdc test is more accurate. Anyone know how the accuracy compares with the cdc and who tests?

Actually so far the CDC test is not more accurate. It was meant to test for more than just COVID-19. It has been LESS accurate. This called a stall where they had to stop testing because it was giving false positives for the other viruses. There are still experts questioning the accuracy of the test for COVID-19 itself. They have kinks to work out. Should have just gone with the WHO test.

At this point I think we have to humbly beg the Chinese, Koreans, or Singaporeans to just share their tech with us.

This is the kind of issue where leadership matters. A competent administration would have just insisted on going with the WHO or another test in the meantime.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's some more real numbers from South Korea:

5,186 Confirmed
31 Dead
34 Released from treatment

121,039 Total Tested
35,555 Awaiting test results
85,484 Tested Negative

So you're looking at about 90,000 completed tests, with 5186 positives. That's pretty positive, compared to what it looked like at first from numbers coming out of China.

Over 120 THOUSAND people were tested? I’m blowed away by this. Is this since December? How are they doing it logicistically? And how do they have so many test kits??

CDC could have used the already developed WHO test. They decided to make their own complicated test instead.

I assume because the cdc test is more accurate. Anyone know how the accuracy compares with the cdc and who tests?

Actually so far the CDC test is not more accurate. It was meant to test for more than just COVID-19. It has been LESS accurate. This called a stall where they had to stop testing because it was giving false positives for the other viruses. There are still experts questioning the accuracy of the test for COVID-19 itself. They have kinks to work out. Should have just gone with the WHO test.

At this point I think we have to humbly beg the Chinese, Koreans, or Singaporeans to just share their tech with us.

Huh. Why is it too late for us to go back to The WHO test? Limited supplies or just our pride or what?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's some more real numbers from South Korea:

5,186 Confirmed
31 Dead
34 Released from treatment

121,039 Total Tested
35,555 Awaiting test results
85,484 Tested Negative

So you're looking at about 90,000 completed tests, with 5186 positives. That's pretty positive, compared to what it looked like at first from numbers coming out of China.

Over 120 THOUSAND people were tested? I’m blowed away by this. Is this since December? How are they doing it logicistically? And how do they have so many test kits??

CDC could have used the already developed WHO test. They decided to make their own complicated test instead.

I assume because the cdc test is more accurate. Anyone know how the accuracy compares with the cdc and who tests?

Actually so far the CDC test is not more accurate. It was meant to test for more than just COVID-19. It has been LESS accurate. This called a stall where they had to stop testing because it was giving false positives for the other viruses. There are still experts questioning the accuracy of the test for COVID-19 itself. They have kinks to work out. Should have just gone with the WHO test.

It's absolutely less accurate. They just released a coronavirus positive person that was evacuated from Wuhan that was under quarantine in San Antonio. The test gave a false negative TWICE.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's some more real numbers from South Korea:

5,186 Confirmed
31 Dead
34 Released from treatment

121,039 Total Tested
35,555 Awaiting test results
85,484 Tested Negative

So you're looking at about 90,000 completed tests, with 5186 positives. That's pretty positive, compared to what it looked like at first from numbers coming out of China.

Over 120 THOUSAND people were tested? I’m blowed away by this. Is this since December? How are they doing it logicistically? And how do they have so many test kits??

CDC could have used the already developed WHO test. They decided to make their own complicated test instead.

I assume because the cdc test is more accurate. Anyone know how the accuracy compares with the cdc and who tests?

Actually so far the CDC test is not more accurate. It was meant to test for more than just COVID-19. It has been LESS accurate. This called a stall where they had to stop testing because it was giving false positives for the other viruses. There are still experts questioning the accuracy of the test for COVID-19 itself. They have kinks to work out. Should have just gone with the WHO test.

At this point I think we have to humbly beg the Chinese, Koreans, or Singaporeans to just share their tech with us.

+1

And given that they are already manufacturing it maybe they could spare a million or two to get us started.

[Anonymous]

Old and young

The vast majority of cases in China — 87% — were in people ages 30 to 79, the China Center for Disease Control reported last month based on data from all 72,314 of those diagnosed with Covid-19 as of Feb. 11. That probably reflects something about biology more than lifestyle, such as being in frequent contact with other people. Teens and people in their 20s also encounter many others, at school and work and on public transit, yet they don’t seem to be contracting the disease at significant rates: Only 8.1% of cases were 20-somethings, 1.2% were teens, and 0.9% were 9 or younger. The World Health Organization mission to China found that 78% of the cases reported as of Feb. 20 were in people ages 30 to 69.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/03/who-is-getting-sick-and-how-sick-a-breakdown-of-coronavirus-risk-by-demographic-factors/

One intriguing explanation for the apparent resilience of youth: in regions near Hubei province, young children seem especially likely to be exposed to other coronaviruses, scientists in China reported in 2018. That might have given them at least partial immunity to this one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's some more real numbers from South Korea:

5,186 Confirmed
31 Dead
34 Released from treatment

121,039 Total Tested
35,555 Awaiting test results
85,484 Tested Negative

So you're looking at about 90,000 completed tests, with 5186 positives. That's pretty positive, compared to what it looked like at first from numbers coming out of China.

Over 120 THOUSAND people were tested? I’m blowed away by this. Is this since December? How are they doing it logicistically? And how do they have so many test kits??

CDC could have used the already developed WHO test. They decided to make their own complicated test instead.

I assume because the cdc test is more accurate. Anyone know how the accuracy compares with the cdc and who tests?

Actually so far the CDC test is not more accurate. It was meant to test for more than just COVID-19. It has been LESS accurate. This called a stall where they had to stop testing because it was giving false positives for the other viruses. There are still experts questioning the accuracy of the test for COVID-19 itself. They have kinks to work out. Should have just gone with the WHO test.

At this point I think we have to humbly beg the Chinese, Koreans, or Singaporeans to just share their tech with us.

+1

And given that they are already manufacturing it maybe they could spare a million or two to get us started.

Have’t we outsource everything? Now we can not make anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's some more real numbers from South Korea:

5,186 Confirmed
31 Dead
34 Released from treatment

121,039 Total Tested
35,555 Awaiting test results
85,484 Tested Negative

So you're looking at about 90,000 completed tests, with 5186 positives. That's pretty positive, compared to what it looked like at first from numbers coming out of China.

Imagine having five cases iDMV rested negative while being positive, they go about their lives and in a week you have thousand cases. O thank you. Bad test is no test.

Over 120 THOUSAND people were tested? I’m blowed away by this. Is this since December? How are they doing it logicistically? And how do they have so many test kits??

CDC could have used the already developed WHO test. They decided to make their own complicated test instead.

I assume because the cdc test is more accurate. Anyone know how the accuracy compares with the cdc and who tests?

Actually so far the CDC test is not more accurate. It was meant to test for more than just COVID-19. It has been LESS accurate. This called a stall where they had to stop testing because it was giving false positives for the other viruses. There are still experts questioning the accuracy of the test for COVID-19 itself. They have kinks to work out. Should have just gone with the WHO test.

At this point I think we have to humbly beg the Chinese, Koreans, or Singaporeans to just share their tech with us.

Huh. Why is it too late for us to go back to The WHO test? Limited supplies or just our pride or what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's some more real numbers from South Korea:

5,186 Confirmed
31 Dead
34 Released from treatment

121,039 Total Tested
35,555 Awaiting test results
85,484 Tested Negative

So you're looking at about 90,000 completed tests, with 5186 positives. That's pretty positive, compared to what it looked like at first from numbers coming out of China.

Over 120 THOUSAND people were tested? I’m blowed away by this. Is this since December? How are they doing it logicistically? And how do they have so many test kits??

CDC could have used the already developed WHO test. They decided to make their own complicated test instead.

I know it sounds petty but I wonder if there is a combination of vanity (we have the best test) and CYA (no one gets a false result) that prevents the CDC from doing anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's some more real numbers from South Korea:

5,186 Confirmed
31 Dead
34 Released from treatment

121,039 Total Tested
35,555 Awaiting test results
85,484 Tested Negative

So you're looking at about 90,000 completed tests, with 5186 positives. That's pretty positive, compared to what it looked like at first from numbers coming out of China.

Over 120 THOUSAND people were tested? I’m blowed away by this. Is this since December? How are they doing it logicistically? And how do they have so many test kits??

CDC could have used the already developed WHO test. They decided to make their own complicated test instead.

I assume because the cdc test is more accurate. Anyone know how the accuracy compares with the cdc and who tests?

Actually so far the CDC test is not more accurate. It was meant to test for more than just COVID-19. It has been LESS accurate. This called a stall where they had to stop testing because it was giving false positives for the other viruses. There are still experts questioning the accuracy of the test for COVID-19 itself. They have kinks to work out. Should have just gone with the WHO test.

At this point I think we have to humbly beg the Chinese, Koreans, or Singaporeans to just share their tech with us.

+1

And given that they are already manufacturing it maybe they could spare a million or two to get us started.

Have’t we outsource everything? Now we can not make anything.

We can make it but it will take days/week to retool manufacturing plants.

I said they could give us some *to get us started* since time is not on our side.

[Anonymous]

For those that claim it's no worse than a flu:
"About 60% of U.S. adults have at least one underlying health condition, Tom Frieden, former director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters on Monday." https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/03/who-is-getting-sick-and-how-sick-a-breakdown-of-coronavirus-risk-by-demographic-factors/
So many of us are screwed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is South Korea doing with the positive results. The positive people have been going about life for three days while awaiting test results so who knows how many people they spread it to. Are all 5000+ people and everyone around them being quarantined? How many of these 5000 identified through drive through a has symptoms and how many required hospitalization?

I'm linking the reddit thread with the sources, because it appears to be multiple sources that have been translated: https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/fcsr7t/south_korea_5186_confirmed_31_dead_121039_tested/

Current severe/critical rate (5hr ago): 18 Severe, 23 Critical

I do not know the answer to how many required hospitalization, or the answer to your question about what the patients are doing in the meantime while they wait for results, but at the very least, they're being told to self-quarantine.

[Anonymous]

Why we don't have sufficient testing? If we do many many tests, it will be apparent that this is truly a pandemic and WHO will be forced to called this a "pandemic" (backed by the flood of positive tests). If WHO calls this a pandemic, the powerful bond holders of the "pandemic bonds" would lose $650+ millions of dollars. Scheduled maturity date is July 15, 2020, so the forces that be will try to prevent calling this a pandemic till or after this date....and with that perhaps hold back the testing.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2017/06/28/world-bank-launches-first-ever-pandemic-bonds-to-support-500-million-pandemic-emergency-financing-facility

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/feb/28/world-banks-500m-coronavirus-push-too-late-for-poor-countries-experts-say

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those who thought the Dominican Republic was a safe spring vacation choice--

DR has reported its first case, an Italian who entered the country a week ago.

https://mobile.twitter.com/elizondogabriel/status/1234140256548610048

Italy is spreading this everywhere. Jesus.

Exactly. 2 Italian tourists land in India, husband wife both positive. Why are they doing this?

[Anonymous]

Nine dead now
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/03/03/world/coronavirus-news.amp.html%3f0p19G=2870