I’ve never used that term here before. But it’s hilarious that you, a Trump supporter, are offended by profanity. |
I see. And the accuser being spoken about in the PP didn't have huge gaps in her *own* story? And NO ONE who would corroborate it? And you're calling that a straw man? Nope. THAT'S the comparison here. That you would so completely believe one woman's weird, decades old story, with no facts, dates, witnesses, or places, but so completely disbelieve another woman's similarly hard to prove story? What's the only real difference between these women? The political parties of the accused. HYPOCRITE. |
Right, you've *never* used that term before. Except, you have - on multiple threads. Your tradecraft is sorely lacking.
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What he actually said didn’t fit in the headline. It indeed has qualifiers. Shall I bold them for you? Biden added, “For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it’s been made worse or better over time. But nobody fails to understand that this is like jumping into a cauldron.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-biden-when-a-woman-alleges-sexual-assault-presume-she-is-telling-the-truth/2018/09/17/7718c532-badd-11e8-a8aa-860695e7f3fc_story.html |
No, I never have posted that term on this website. Are you OK? |
And you all who pshaw two dozen accusations against Trump aren’t hypocrites? OK. |
So in other words, believe all women. Got it. Thanks for proving the point. |
This provides no qualifiers. You are taking this to mean what you want it to mean. It says "you've got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she's talking about is real". Where is the qualifier there? What alternative, other than believing her, does that statement allow for? |
Do you understand parts of speech? There are no qualifiers. Let’s break it down for you: “presume” is very different from “believe”. |
"Presume" and "believe" are synonyms. |
Boy you’re dumb. In what world does “start off with the presumption” translate to “believe all women no matter of the evidence says otherwise”? |
"Start off with the presumption" means "assume that it happened". So, he is saying "assume that it happened" at the beginning, BEFORE even considering evidence. There is no evidence when you are "starting off". It has to be investigated, remember? |
Because nowhere in his statement does he say - or even hint at - what the evidence says or doesn't say. You're simply plugging in words to further your narrative. |
DP. Um, a presumption can be refuted or overcome. Think about the presumption of innocence in our criminal justice system - do you think no one can be convicted of a crime because prosecutors can’t review evidence or present it to a jury? A presumption is just where you start unless/until there is evidence that leads you to conclude otherwise. Personally, I feel that the evidence that’s been made publicly available to date is sufficient to overcome the presumption that Reade is telling the truth. |
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Hey cons, come back when you have a better argument than assaulting the English language by arguing that “start off with the presumption” means you’re eternally wedded to an idea. Let me guess, you got 650 on the SATs, all sections combined.
See you tomorrow when you have better material from your puppeteers? |