Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

[Anonymous]

Hamilton takes anyone who pays full freight. If you have the cheat to get into Hamilton

Ummm no. You are wrong. They had something like 8500 applications for a class of 500. I think the acceptance rate is around 15%?

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Anonymous wrote:I’d hate to be the offspring of a celebrity and currently in college right now.

Everyone is going to be side eyeing you and wondering how your parents pulled strings to get them in.

True, but pretty sure everyone already knew how they got in.

Rob Lowe’s son just tweeted out how hard he worked taking practice tests for the SATs and how terrible this bribery ring is. He may not have cheated but being the kid of Rob Lowe is a huge hook [b]for him to get into college.

Ya think?
I read the memoir written by Steve Jobs' older daughter a couple of months ago and it had a similar, pretty funny, episode. So the girl applies to Harvard and travels there for her interview; she has her mother's last name, Brennan, so the admissions lady, looking totally uninterested, asks her a couple of formal questions. Then the girl, somewhat 'offhandedly', mentions her father. "Oh, and what does your father do?" "He's the founder of this company named Apple". The admissions lady's expression immediately changes and she even leaves the room, then she comes back and continues the interview with way more interest.
Next thing the girl knows, there's the acceptance letter in the mail.

And, at that point, Steve Jobs didn't even donate anything to Harvard (I'm not sure if he ever did). But the 'development' prospects themselves!

Harvard was playing the long game. That 'girl' stood to inherit $100s of millions. Even if daddy didn't like them, she might give back in class fundraisers or when her own children attended as legacy admits or if she didn't have children - its not unheard of for people to will their estates to their former colleges or universities.

Steve Jobs treated her and her mother like scum. I’m actually really glad she got into Harvard. He certainly wouldn’t have helped her get in. He was such an ass.

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges need to be taxed. No more tax free status.

Yeah, let's start with churches first. Those behemoths are sitting on billions in land and revenue they snatched up in the 1700s.

I will never forget learning about the Houston floods and seeing Joel Osteen (multi-millionaire church pastor because of no taxes) refuse to open up his church to those flooded out.

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Anonymous wrote:The accommodations scam needs to end. Kids who never needed before all of the sudden in 8th grade needed for the high school entry standardized tests. Total scam. Like therapy dogs.

But but, my transgender Haitian black kid with ADHD and processing issues has PTSD due to trauma so he really really needs some help.

Don't be a racist xenophobe antihuman pig, remember how holistic we all holistically are.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d hate to be the offspring of a celebrity and currently in college right now.

Everyone is going to be side eyeing you and wondering how your parents pulled strings to get them in.

True, but pretty sure everyone already knew how they got in.

Rob Lowe’s son just tweeted out how hard he worked taking practice tests for the SATs and how terrible this bribery ring is. He may not have cheated but being the kid of Rob Lowe is a huge hook [b]for him to get into college.

Ya think?
I read the memoir written by Steve Jobs' older daughter a couple of months ago and it had a similar, pretty funny, episode. So the girl applies to Harvard and travels there for her interview; she has her mother's last name, Brennan, so the admissions lady, looking totally uninterested, asks her a couple of formal questions. Then the girl, somewhat 'offhandedly', mentions her father. "Oh, and what does your father do?" "He's the founder of this company named Apple". The admissions lady's expression immediately changes and she even leaves the room, then she comes back and continues the interview with way more interest.
Next thing the girl knows, there's the acceptance letter in the mail.

And, at that point, Steve Jobs didn't even donate anything to Harvard (I'm not sure if he ever did). But the 'development' prospects themselves!

Harvard was playing the long game. That 'girl' stood to inherit $100s of millions. Even if daddy didn't like them, she might give back in class fundraisers or when her own children attended as legacy admits or if she didn't have children - its not unheard of for people to will their estates to their former colleges or universities.

Yes that’s obvious. There’s a whole book about mediocre rich kids that get into college because of their parents’ donor potential, Daniel Golden’s Price of Admission. It has a whole chapter on one Jared Kushner, whose parents donated 2.5 million to Harvard to get the mediocre Jared in.

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Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest is a sought after school?

I think you underestimate how dumb some rich kids even of professionals are.

Wilkie Farr's co-chair was getting 22's on practice ACTs. So even with fake scores and bribes, the wake tier is the best that type will do.

He mentions she has a disability in the complaint.

no - they're using a fake diagnosis to get extended time from act.

Some of the cases are, yes. Not disputing that. But in Caplan’s case Singer mentions her disability.

CW-1: What-- so you tell me if you want-- would [you] prefer to have her get a 28? 27? 28? 29? Probably based on what you’re just telling me right now, right, that -- maybe that’s a better approach, because that’s still a very good score with her abilities and disability but--

CAPLAN: Well, I-- I’m thinking 30, 31 is all we need to do here.

Dated a guy in college who did speed and aderall during big tests like SATs. His parents got him the drugs.

No read the whole transcript. CW-1 told him they'd have to get her diagnosed with disability that would entitle her to extra time on the exam (because that's how they can do the exam in a location where they can use the fake tester). He mentioned that "all the wealthy families are doing this, so it isn't an even playing field anyway." Sound familiar?

This is such a travesty for kids who actually have learning differences.

Yes. How prevalent is getting LDs diagnosed to have more time on SAT?

Very, very common. Super common. My father worked in a wealthy NYC suburb as a psychiatrist and probably could have retired on the number of parents desperate for these diagnosis. Would turn them away when he could tell what they were gunning for (they were evidently quite transparent), but it's a whole cottage industry.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d hate to be the offspring of a celebrity and currently in college right now.

Everyone is going to be side eyeing you and wondering how your parents pulled strings to get them in.

True, but pretty sure everyone already knew how they got in.

Rob Lowe’s son just tweeted out how hard he worked taking practice tests for the SATs and how terrible this bribery ring is. He may not have cheated but being the kid of Rob Lowe is a huge hook [b]for him to get into college.

Ya think?
I read the memoir written by Steve Jobs' older daughter a couple of months ago and it had a similar, pretty funny, episode. So the girl applies to Harvard and travels there for her interview; she has her mother's last name, Brennan, so the admissions lady, looking totally uninterested, asks her a couple of formal questions. Then the girl, somewhat 'offhandedly', mentions her father. "Oh, and what does your father do?" "He's the founder of this company named Apple". The admissions lady's expression immediately changes and she even leaves the room, then she comes back and continues the interview with way more interest.
Next thing the girl knows, there's the acceptance letter in the mail.

And, at that point, Steve Jobs didn't even donate anything to Harvard (I'm not sure if he ever did). But the 'development' prospects themselves!

Harvard was playing the long game. That 'girl' stood to inherit $100s of millions. Even if daddy didn't like them, she might give back in class fundraisers or when her own children attended as legacy admits or if she didn't have children - its not unheard of for people to will their estates to their former colleges or universities.

Steve Jobs treated her and her mother like scum. I’m actually really glad she got into Harvard. He certainly wouldn’t have helped her get in. He was such an ass.

*shrug* Billionaires aren't known for their charming personalities.

Elon Musk could care less about his five sons and ex-wife. It is what it is. She knew who he was when they married.

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges need to be taxed. No more tax free status.

Yeah, let's start with churches first. Those behemoths are sitting on billions in land and revenue they snatched up in the 1700s.

I will never forget learning about the Houston floods and seeing Joel Osteen (multi-millionaire church pastor because of no taxes) refuse to open up his church to those flooded out.

No Tangents!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges need to be taxed. No more tax free status.

+1.

Both for income and for property.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who are surprised by this white people who have been lying to themselves all this time about this so-called “merit” that they think explains why they have such a leg up over minorities. Speaking as a black woman who was a national merit scholar, I worked a lot harder with a lot more honesty to get where I am today than my white peers did.

And notice the shock is more about why they parents didn’t just legally offer big donations. Not concern that the kids couldn’t keep up in the college if the parents lied/committed fraud to get them or faux concern that others would judge the kids as not being qualified because they had wealthy parents that could in theory have made a big donation to the school to get them in.

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges need to be taxed. No more tax free status.

+1.

Both for income and for property.

The college didn't institute this bribery scandal. It was the personal who lined their pockets and the parents who paid them off.

All of the individuals need to go to jail.

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Anonymous wrote:The accommodations scam needs to end. Kids who never needed before all of the sudden in 8th grade needed for the high school entry standardized tests. Total scam. Like therapy dogs.

And they all take the ACT. They get almost double the time and it is an easy test. The whole point of that test is that you need to be quick and efficient.

If you are giving extra time, it must be on the harder test.

My daughter goes to a top 5 private. She is a senior and estimates that 1/3 of the kids are on “accommodations.” Extra hour for every exam. Extra time for tests. No quick quizzes. HW is given one extra day. It is a complete disgrace. Ruins it for the kids that truly need it.

When kids are pulling 34-36 - pulease.

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The PR people will be working tons of overtime over the next few weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who are surprised by this white people who have been lying to themselves all this time about this so-called “merit” that they think explains why they have such a leg up over minorities. Speaking as a black woman who was a national merit scholar, I worked a lot harder with a lot more honesty to get where I am today than my white peers did.

You clearly have anger and jealousy issues.

PP here. Sorry the truth hurts.

White female National Merit Scholar from a lower middle class family (a really one, not DCUM "LMC") here. You just keep telling yourself what you need to to make yourself feel better.

PP here. I don’t care about your alleged stats or your opinion. Clearly, you’re upset. Good. Stay mad.

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I can only imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth going on among the College Confidential crowd.