Don't fly United
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Anonymous
I read (and have no idea if this is true) but that the doc was on the phone with his lawyer when the police / security arrived and asked them to wait while he sought legal advice. |
Anonymous
| When all is said and done, it would have been A HELL of a lot cheaper for UA to put its staff on a competitor's flight at full fare. |
Anonymous
Oversold is a term of art. It means selling more seats than are available for sale. Once the employees arrived, United decided that 4 seats were no longer available for sale. Thus, there is an oversold situation. |
Anonymous
There was none. Only other flight was on American, and that had already left by this point. |
Anonymous
The US, like most countries, does not allow foreign carriers to compete on domestic routes. It's why you don't see United or Emirates flying Toronto-Montreal, or Turkish flying Beijing to Shanghai. We already have 4 major carriers: United, American, Delta, and Southwest, along with smaler carriers like Alaska, Sun Country, and Allegiant. Is there insufficient competition? |
Anonymous
Ask Congress. Only domestic carriers fly domestically. If they opened it to foreign competition, United, Delta and American would go the way of Pan Am, Eastern and TWA. |
Anonymous
OMG between this and the completely serious response to the sitting on the toilet person, there is an airline employee on here with a stick up her butt. |
Anonymous
But someone directed them to that flight. Surely someone knew they'd need those seats before the plane had finished boarding. They could have called the gate and avoided this whole scenario. |
Anonymous
That's obviously insufficient. If competition were effective, air travel would not be the hell that it is. There is no incentive for any domestic airline to provide even the most rudimentary experience. They collectively get away with the worst because of the lack of competition and route/time monopolies. |
Anonymous
| In the end, the guy is a hero, imo. |
Anonymous
It's not lack of competition. It's the willingness of customers to sacrifice a lot for a lower price. Remember when checked bags used to be free? Now it's $25+ per bag on all but Southwest, and airlines make billions a year from it. First one airline did it, then the others followed when they found they were losing out customers to the airlines that offered lower fares but had baggage fees. It's a race to the bottom, because most customers care only about price. JetBlue has a sort of premium product and they are doing OK, but not great. That's who I'd recommend flying with.. or fly first class on the major carriers. |
Anonymous
| Let's get to the important question....was it an on time departure? |
Anonymous
Term of art? Really? Because at what point did the plane become oversold? Does it always apply to employees? When the people had already boarded? Or when the gate agent had knowledge of the United employees needing seats. I think this would be a case law issue. I mean who decides all this, only the airlines?! I don't trust United to self investigate this to exonerate themselves on defining "boarding" or "oversold" or anything else. |
Anonymous
There's a lot the carriers could do to lower costs, but their hands are tied by unions. For instance WAY too many flight attendants on domestic flights. Most of these flights are not serving food or beverage, so there's no need for cabin service. It should be more like rail service or bus service with minimal flight attendants. I really don't mind a la carte pricing like Spirit. Pay for what you use is better for most everyone. |
Anonymous
You are so right.! I wasn't expecting a response to my sitting on the toilet post  I almost spit my coffee when I read it was against the guidelines
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