Conservative DCUM'ers: how far back do you want LGBTQ rights rolled back?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone said if a woman walks into the men’s bathroom, a man will probably be uncomfortable and embarrassed; however, if a man walks into a women’s bathroom, a woman will be uncomfortable and afraid. The man, even a teenager, can overpower a woman and use his fists and penis as a weapon. Biology matters. Sex matters.

Bingo. And the utterly evil woman-hating d!ck panderers catering to these deluded fetishists know that. They know. They consider us collateral damage and think that any harm done to us is very much worth it.


Are you OK? You might want to get checked out.

How is someone who gets their dick lopped off a "dick panderer?"

You're really off the deep end.


Cool story, bro.


"Cool story bro?" What kind of off out-of-place non-sequitur is that? Forget the meds, I think someone's bot is broken.


Your argument is invalid.
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Anonymous wrote:Keep biological males out of women’s sports

Keep kids away from overtly sexual material (esp. elementary kids).

Live and let live. I (and my kids) don’t need to be conscripted as your ally in your war.

Look, semi public trans subculture has existed since at least the early 80s when I encountered it in the Bay Area. Nobody really cared about drag or trans issues until sports and exposure to kids. The part I don’t understand or make sense of is the (pathological?) need that performers have to bring kids into the drag scene, in particular the more explicit shows. When you start involving kids you should expect people to react strongly.


I agree with all of those things. But I also agree that the poster above ranting about "penis pandering" and whatever else is more unhinged than any trans person I've ever met. And, I do know a few, both transmen and transwomen, one is family and the others via professional and social networks. They don't believe in cheating in sports and don't want kids exposed to sexual material either. I think 99.99% of the outrage is being deliberately engineered by right wing media outlets.


You failed to mention the fringe trans activists who are 100% committed to adding fuel to the right wing dumpster fire. Extremists from both sides seem hell bent on reducing women to breeder status. Enjoy the ensuing chaos.
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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for evidence LGB+ rights are being rolled back. Anyone?

Trans Jesus revealed it in his sacred texts. Are you a bigot or do you believe?


Neither
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.

NP. If the surgical and cosmetic changes you voluntarily undertook to defraud people into thinking you’re the opposite sex leave you a pariah with no clear space to go to, then that’s YOUR problem. Decisions have consequences. You’d better channel all that grooming energy into creating trans spaces.


Why would you want to treat other people so poorly? What makes you want to ostracize good and kind people?


DP. What? What is this mythology around the LGBT community that everyone in it is "good and kind"? Sure, many are - and many aren't. They're humans like the rest of us and plenty of them are aholes, just like humans in general. I judge people by how "good and kind" they are and not by the color of their skin - or their sexuality. What a ridiculous comment.
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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.


Not a Republican nor a Democrat; however, I and all my friends and acquaintances (of both parties); don't want any LGBTQ rights rolled back. Everyone in the LGBTQ community should have the same rights as everyone else. We just ask that schools leave our kids alone. We want our teachers to teach reading, math, science, and history. We do not want them teaching our kids, especially the young ones, that they can easily change their gender. That's none of the school's business. That's our business, not yours.


+1


Another thing that I want is for trans women to stop competing with biological women in women's sports. A biological man should not be competing against biological women. Full stop. Men's bodies are different and have the advantage of being stronger and bigger; and that gives them an unfair advantage. What's happening now is insane. It's like we've gone back in time before the women's movement.


I'll agree with that, but beyond that, unless they are actually doing something criminal, what's between their legs and what they wear is none of your business.


DP. Wrong. Biological men do not belong in spaces reserved for biological women. You're just going to have to deal with that. Women's bathrooms, locker rooms, etc. are off-limits.
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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

I don't have to read this thread to know there are multiple posts along the lines of "I don't want to roll back LGBTQ rights, I just want them to all go away so I can pretend they don't exist, and I support laws to make that happen."


No one has said anything of the kind, but do go on with your ASSumptions. Indeed, many posters do NOT want to roll back LGBTQ rights. Wanting to retain separate women's and men's spaces has nothing to do with wanting anyone to "go away." How childish and ridiculous to claim otherwise.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.

Right, the majority of men who claim to be trans want nothing to do with women which is why they’re colonizing our sports, bathrooms, domestic violence shelters, rape shelters, locker rooms, medical specialties (what’s a man doing at the Ob/Gyn?), and very identities. That’s why they claim
they’re “lesbians.” That’s why they claim lesbians are “transphobic” for not wanting them. Checks out!


Have never heard of this happening anywhere or to anyone. Please cite your statistics or else admit you are making it up. Not interested in a story you heard or read about. I want you to cite actual numbers so we can make an informed judgment of how much of a threat this is.


DP. Do you read the news? Ever?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Keep biological males out of women’s sports

Keep kids away from overtly sexual material (esp. elementary kids).

Live and let live. I (and my kids) don’t need to be conscripted as your ally in your war.

Look, semi public trans subculture has existed since at least the early 80s when I encountered it in the Bay Area. Nobody really cared about drag or trans issues until sports and exposure to kids. The part I don’t understand or make sense of is the (pathological?) need that performers have to bring kids into the drag scene, in particular the more explicit shows. When you start involving kids you should expect people to react strongly.


THIS ^^
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for evidence LGB+ rights are being rolled back. Anyone?


They're not. This entire thread was just the usual LWNJ attempt to pick a fight.
Anonymous
I’d rather share a bathroom with a trans woman than some of the bigoted females on this thread. One is just trying to relieve themselves, while the other is pushing a regressive agenda.

None of us would have anything to fear if certain men didn’t feel they were entitled to women’s bodies, or that God made them so they couldn’t control themselves at the sight of lowered skirts under a bathroom stall.

Raise your sons to be better, ladies, and we can all have nice things.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.

Right, the majority of men who claim to be trans want nothing to do with women which is why they’re colonizing our sports, bathrooms, domestic violence shelters, rape shelters, locker rooms, medical specialties (what’s a man doing at the Ob/Gyn?), and very identities. That’s why they claim
they’re “lesbians.” That’s why they claim lesbians are “transphobic” for not wanting them. Checks out!


Have never heard of this happening anywhere or to anyone. Please cite your statistics or else admit you are making it up. Not interested in a story you heard or read about. I want you to cite actual numbers so we can make an informed judgment of how much of a threat this is.


DP. Do you read the news? Ever?


Don't feed the trans troll.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep biological males out of women’s sports

Keep kids away from overtly sexual material (esp. elementary kids).

Live and let live. I (and my kids) don’t need to be conscripted as your ally in your war.

Look, semi public trans subculture has existed since at least the early 80s when I encountered it in the Bay Area. Nobody really cared about drag or trans issues until sports and exposure to kids. The part I don’t understand or make sense of is the (pathological?) need that performers have to bring kids into the drag scene, in particular the more explicit shows. When you start involving kids you should expect people to react strongly.


I agree with all of those things. But I also agree that the poster above ranting about "penis pandering" and whatever else is more unhinged than any trans person I've ever met. And, I do know a few, both transmen and transwomen, one is family and the others via professional and social networks. They don't believe in cheating in sports and don't want kids exposed to sexual material either. I think 99.99% of the outrage is being deliberately engineered by right wing media outlets.


DP. And I think 99.99% of the unbelievably odd insistence that transmen should share spaces and sports with biological women is coming from extreme LWNJs. Which is an oxymoron, but you get the point. I don't think mainstream people - whether Democrats or Republicans, gay or straight, agree with this extreme view. It's just the extremely loud, extremely small minority making things hard for everyone else.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’d rather share a bathroom with a trans woman than some of the bigoted females on this thread. One is just trying to relieve themselves, while the other is pushing a regressive agenda.

None of us would have anything to fear if certain men didn’t feel they were entitled to women’s bodies, or that God made them so they couldn’t control themselves at the sight of lowered skirts under a bathroom stall.

Raise your sons to be better, ladies, and we can all have nice things.


Sorry - biological men still can't share a bathroom with me, a biological woman. Deal with it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’d rather share a bathroom with a trans woman than some of the bigoted females on this thread. One is just trying to relieve themselves, while the other is pushing a regressive agenda.

None of us would have anything to fear if certain men didn’t feel they were entitled to women’s bodies, or that God made them so they couldn’t control themselves at the sight of lowered skirts under a bathroom stall.

Raise your sons to be better, ladies, and we can all have nice things.


I agree with your last statement - it's those pesky sons who are now claiming to be women and demanding access to sex segregated spaces so they can enjoy the company of bigoted females. #parentalfailure
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’d rather share a bathroom with a trans woman than some of the bigoted females on this thread. One is just trying to relieve themselves, while the other is pushing a regressive agenda.

None of us would have anything to fear if certain men didn’t feel they were entitled to women’s bodies, or that God made them so they couldn’t control themselves at the sight of lowered skirts under a bathroom stall.

Raise your sons to be better, ladies, and we can all have nice things.

You can report to the men’s bathroom and share toilets with all the “trans women” a.k.a. men you want right now. What’s stopping you?

By the way, nice job blaming criminal men on women. You’re disgraceful trash.
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