NYC mayor declares 'emergency' due to migrants

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone may have mentioned it earlier but NY has a “Right to Shelter” law that requires them to provide for these immigrants. This wasn’t the original intent of it (more for local homeless population) but it’s a loophole and many have found out that if you just get over the border and to NY you can receive this aid and go from there.

If you’ve spent time looking at photos of migrants in various places does it strike you as odd that a large portion seem to be younger men around 20-30? National security should be at the top of our worry about this issue. Especially with what feels like the rapid destabilization of the world.

I’m not a prepper or a gun owner but I heard on a podcast the other day the single best thing we can do, as Americans, is to start thinking about your personal safety and preparedness in the event things go sideways.

Why do you think it is odd that a large proportion are men aged 20-30? I'm afraid you are showing your ignorance as it has always been that way. A difficult and dangerous journey is not easily undertaken by older people or children. There can be additional dangers for young women and those who are 20-30 often already have children. My 19 year old father escaped from a communist country in the 1950s. He was prepared to leave his family and trekked for days through snow-covered mountains before ending up n a refugee camp. Even if the trek is not so dangerous, it's not so easy to uproot an entire family for an uncertain future. Who is to care for elderly parents left at home? It is quite common for a young man to go on his own and try to earn money so he can send it home to support his family.

Agree. Most immigrant records I’ve researched dating back to the mid-1800s to mid-1900s were for people mostly in their 20s and 30s. Even friends, colleagues and acquaintances I know often came initially for grad school and then returned to the US for good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eric Adam's, NYC mayor and noted critic of Biden's border policy, suddenly under investigation for foreign influence peddling https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/fbi-raids-home-of-major-fundraiser-for-nyc-mayor-eric-adams/

This is in no way suspicious, how could you think that? It just happens that political rivals are also criminals who need to be charged, right? Totally normal.

This is very disappointing news — whether the mayor is directly involved or not. I first heard a question about his abrupt schedule change at yesterdays WH press conference. This topic deserves its own thread separate from the migrant situation in NYC.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eric Adam's, NYC mayor and noted critic of Biden's border policy, suddenly under investigation for foreign influence peddling https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/fbi-raids-home-of-major-fundraiser-for-nyc-mayor-eric-adams/

This is in no way suspicious, how could you think that? It just happens that political rivals are also criminals who need to be charged, right? Totally normal.

This is very disappointing news — whether the mayor is directly involved or not. I first heard a question about his abrupt schedule change at yesterday's WH press conference. This topic deserves its own thread separate from the migrant situation in NYC.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1165639.page

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eric Adam's, NYC mayor and noted critic of Biden's border policy, suddenly under investigation for foreign influence peddling https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/fbi-raids-home-of-major-fundraiser-for-nyc-mayor-eric-adams/

This is in no way suspicious, how could you think that? It just happens that political rivals are also criminals who need to be charged, right? Totally normal.

This is very disappointing news — whether the mayor is directly involved or not. I first heard a question about his abrupt schedule change at yesterday's WH press conference. This topic deserves its own thread separate from the migrant situation in NYC.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1165639.page

Thanks. It’s disappointing that there is a potential scandal. The timing makes it more terrible. Maybe some good will come of all this.

[Anonymous]

Wow! Where else can you get a free plane ticket to anywhere in the world of YOUR CHOOSING??

NEW YORK — Here’s one approach to discourage migrants from settling in New York City: Give them a free, one-way plane ticket out of town.

Mayor Eric Adams is ramping up efforts to fly migrants to the destination of their choice, figuring it’s cheaper than sheltering them for months on end. And he’s simultaneously warning that those opting to stay in New York may be in for a winter of sleeping outside with shelters full.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/26/migrants-nyc-plane-rides-00123778

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It may be that they haven’t yet got around to it; too uneducated to do it? I mean it’s a process and you need to be at least average in smarts and computer literacy to apply?

[Anonymous]

So, the citizens of NYC will suffer because of undocumented immigrants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Many reasons for that:
1.) you have to know they exists
2.) you have to know where to fill it out
3.) are the forms available in Spanish?
4.) are the forms on paper or computer?
5.) do you have a computer or access to one?
6.) you need a permanent address.

Sure there are multiple retorts to the question above but honestly there are so many point where things can break down along the way. DCUM would have zero clue what these folks are dealing with because you are all -largely- native born, highly educated, high income white people.

[Anonymous]

We are helping out an illegal migrant who approached my sister for aid in an airport on Dec 27, 2022.

She brought him home and put him in an empty housing unit she had. She got him a job the next day.

He has been working the last 10 months. First job, brewery, could only keep him on max 3 days as did not have a social security number, next job was corner market, could only keep him on max 3 days as did not have social security number, 3rd job was a sandwich shop, they employed him for months paying him cash until they sold the business. Sandwich shop owners got him job #4 at a breakfast restaurant paying him cash. He also did sidework construction for cash.

He got his social security number at the end of September so can now work legal. He is on job number 5 and is now paid legal at a restaurant. He has moved to housing supplied by the restaurant.

Really you just need someone to take you around to get the jobs. He was hired on the spot for each job.

Ivan (from Medellin Colombia) knew "0" English. It did not stop him from getting jobs or working. He know is getting better with English. All of the illegal migrants have google translate on their phones and use google translate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It may be that they haven’t yet got around to it; too uneducated to do it? I mean it’s a process and you need to be at least average in smarts and computer literacy to apply?

All of the illegal migrants are giving cell phones by ICE so they can be tracked by the government. They all use google translate loaded on the phones to communicate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone may have mentioned it earlier but NY has a “Right to Shelter” law that requires them to provide for these immigrants. This wasn’t the original intent of it (more for local homeless population) but it’s a loophole and many have found out that if you just get over the border and to NY you can receive this aid and go from there.

If you’ve spent time looking at photos of migrants in various places does it strike you as odd that a large portion seem to be younger men around 20-30? National security should be at the top of our worry about this issue. Especially with what feels like the rapid destabilization of the world.

I’m not a prepper or a gun owner but I heard on a podcast the other day the single best thing we can do, as Americans, is to start thinking about your personal safety and preparedness in the event things go sideways.

Why do you think it is odd that a large proportion are men aged 20-30? I'm afraid you are showing your ignorance as it has always been that way. A difficult and dangerous journey is not easily undertaken by older people or children. There can be additional dangers for young women and those who are 20-30 often already have children. My 19 year old father escaped from a communist country in the 1950s. He was prepared to leave his family and trekked for days through snow-covered mountains before ending up n a refugee camp. Even if the trek is not so dangerous, it's not so easy to uproot an entire family for an uncertain future. Who is to care for elderly parents left at home? It is quite common for a young man to go on his own and try to earn money so he can send it home to support his family.

Agree. Most immigrant records I’ve researched dating back to the mid-1800s to mid-1900s were for people mostly in their 20s and 30s. Even friends, colleagues and acquaintances I know often came initially for grad school and then returned to the US for good.

The young illegal immigrant we are helping is age 30 from Colombia. He is married with two young girls. He thought the journey was very dangerous. He said no way would he subject his daughters to crossing the Rio Grande and traveling the way he did.

I also know a Haitian woman in her 40's. She was living in Brazil with her boyfriend also Haitian and she had not been able to get work for 4 years in Brazil. She became pregnant. At 3 months pregnant she and her boyfriend joined a caravan for the US.
She reached the US (Arizona border) at 8-1/2 months pregnant. Her sister, a Haitian Marylander, told her to get to the nearest airport in Arizona and sister would buy her a plane ticket to Maryland. Sister bought a one way ticket to Maryland and it cost around $800. Baby was born in Maryland several weeks later and is a US citizen. That was an incredible journey while pregnant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone may have mentioned it earlier but NY has a “Right to Shelter” law that requires them to provide for these immigrants. This wasn’t the original intent of it (more for local homeless population) but it’s a loophole and many have found out that if you just get over the border and to NY you can receive this aid and go from there.

If you’ve spent time looking at photos of migrants in various places does it strike you as odd that a large portion seem to be younger men around 20-30? National security should be at the top of our worry about this issue. Especially with what feels like the rapid destabilization of the world.

I’m not a prepper or a gun owner but I heard on a podcast the other day the single best thing we can do, as Americans, is to start thinking about your personal safety and preparedness in the event things go sideways.

Why do you think it is odd that a large proportion are men aged 20-30? I'm afraid you are showing your ignorance as it has always been that way. A difficult and dangerous journey is not easily undertaken by older people or children. There can be additional dangers for young women and those who are 20-30 often already have children. My 19 year old father escaped from a communist country in the 1950s. He was prepared to leave his family and trekked for days through snow-covered mountains before ending up n a refugee camp. Even if the trek is not so dangerous, it's not so easy to uproot an entire family for an uncertain future. Who is to care for elderly parents left at home? It is quite common for a young man to go on his own and try to earn money so he can send it home to support his family.

Agree. Most immigrant records I’ve researched dating back to the mid-1800s to mid-1900s were for people mostly in their 20s and 30s. Even friends, colleagues and acquaintances I know often came initially for grad school and then returned to the US for good.

The young illegal immigrant we are helping is age 30 from Colombia. He is married with two young girls. He thought the journey was very dangerous. He said no way would he subject his daughters to crossing the Rio Grande and traveling the way he did.

I also know a Haitian woman in her 40's. She was living in Brazil with her boyfriend also Haitian and she had not been able to get work for 4 years in Brazil. She became pregnant. At 3 months pregnant she and her boyfriend joined a caravan for the US.
She reached the US (Arizona border) at 8-1/2 months pregnant. Her sister, a Haitian Marylander, told her to get to the nearest airport in Arizona and sister would buy her a plane ticket to Maryland. Sister bought a one way ticket to Maryland and it cost around $800. Baby was born in Maryland several weeks later and is a US citizen. That was an incredible journey while pregnant.

Please tell me how she got on an airplane?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone may have mentioned it earlier but NY has a “Right to Shelter” law that requires them to provide for these immigrants. This wasn’t the original intent of it (more for local homeless population) but it’s a loophole and many have found out that if you just get over the border and to NY you can receive this aid and go from there.

If you’ve spent time looking at photos of migrants in various places does it strike you as odd that a large portion seem to be younger men around 20-30? National security should be at the top of our worry about this issue. Especially with what feels like the rapid destabilization of the world.

I’m not a prepper or a gun owner but I heard on a podcast the other day the single best thing we can do, as Americans, is to start thinking about your personal safety and preparedness in the event things go sideways.

Why do you think it is odd that a large proportion are men aged 20-30? I'm afraid you are showing your ignorance as it has always been that way. A difficult and dangerous journey is not easily undertaken by older people or children. There can be additional dangers for young women and those who are 20-30 often already have children. My 19 year old father escaped from a communist country in the 1950s. He was prepared to leave his family and trekked for days through snow-covered mountains before ending up n a refugee camp. Even if the trek is not so dangerous, it's not so easy to uproot an entire family for an uncertain future. Who is to care for elderly parents left at home? It is quite common for a young man to go on his own and try to earn money so he can send it home to support his family.

Agree. Most immigrant records I’ve researched dating back to the mid-1800s to mid-1900s were for people mostly in their 20s and 30s. Even friends, colleagues and acquaintances I know often came initially for grad school and then returned to the US for good.

The young illegal immigrant we are helping is age 30 from Colombia. He is married with two young girls. He thought the journey was very dangerous. He said no way would he subject his daughters to crossing the Rio Grande and traveling the way he did.

I also know a Haitian woman in her 40's. She was living in Brazil with her boyfriend also Haitian and she had not been able to get work for 4 years in Brazil. She became pregnant. At 3 months pregnant she and her boyfriend joined a caravan for the US.
She reached the US (Arizona border) at 8-1/2 months pregnant. Her sister, a Haitian Marylander, told her to get to the nearest airport in Arizona and sister would buy her a plane ticket to Maryland. Sister bought a one way ticket to Maryland and it cost around $800. Baby was born in Maryland several weeks later and is a US citizen. That was an incredible journey while pregnant.

Please tell me how she got on an airplane?!?

I'm the PP. I guess her Haitian and Brazilian docs. ICE gives temporary travel docs to illegal immigrants that TSA accepts.
A lot of the temporary travel docs came about to get illegal migrants out of Texas and transported around the US.

I am a frequent traveler and I always get hassled by TSA over my docs but it is legal for illegal immigrants to fly in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are helping out an illegal migrant who approached my sister for aid in an airport on Dec 27, 2022.

She brought him home and put him in an empty housing unit she had. She got him a job the next day.

He has been working the last 10 months. First job, brewery, could only keep him on max 3 days as did not have a social security number, next job was corner market, could only keep him on max 3 days as did not have social security number, 3rd job was a sandwich shop, they employed him for months paying him cash until they sold the business. Sandwich shop owners got him job #4 at a breakfast restaurant paying him cash. He also did sidework construction for cash.

He got his social security number at the end of September so can now work legal. He is on job number 5 and is now paid legal at a restaurant. He has moved to housing supplied by the restaurant.

Really you just need someone to take you around to get the jobs. He was hired on the spot for each job.

Ivan (from Medellin Colombia) knew "0" English. It did not stop him from getting jobs or working. He know is getting better with English. All of the illegal migrants have google translate on their phones and use google translate.

You are aiding someone who is in the country illegally. That's all we need to know.