Kobe Bryant killed in helicopter crash (per TMZ)

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Anonymous wrote:I think many of the rape apologists are also the ones who commit spousal rape. Rough sex, BDSM, bondage, swinging, multiple.partned - people can enjoy all of that as long as there is consent. No one actually gets injured to the extent that they are bleeding out from the vagina. Even bdsm has safe words. He was basically a criminal who did not get legally charged. And the continued adultery? Venessa stuck with him for her kids.
He was a great dad to any daughter or youngster who wanted to play basketball. He was not a great example to his daughters about what to look for in a spouse.

You think one sided and that sucks for you. You think to comfort yourself and that’s a shame. He was basically an athlete who got accused of rape buy a woman who chose money over court. He was never convicted. He wasn’t a criminal. Unless you were in that room watching you cannot call him a rapist. Rape apologists doesn’t work here as the rape was never proven nor was he convicted. Don’t throw around words in an effort to make yourself feel better.

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Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

It is being dismissed by 99% of the human race because he didn't rape anyone. Of course there are hateful people, trolls, SJW types, etc, who will try to get some attention out of it and make themselves feel good.

Pretty much. Bored beckys who have nothing else going in their life and spend their free time hating on a dead man while totally being ok with creeps like Harvey Weinstein and Stephen Collins (7th heaven dad who molested several girls up until 1995) who are roaming the world free. For those men, it’s “just a mistake” but for Kobe, he should go down as a rapist based even though it’s unconvicted.

Show me one person who thinks Harvey Weinstein or Stephen Collins should go free. Just one.

They ARE free. That’s the issue. Stephen Collins literally went on ABC in an interview and that was the end of it. 7th heaven still airs currently. Meanwhile, Cosby is locked up and they have taken Cosby off syndication.

That tells you a lot. If you think race isn’t a factor, you’re being obtusely ignorant.

I think you've lost the plot a bit here. Kobe also was walking around free. I wholeheartedly agree that black men are always held to a higher standard than white men. But to state that Weinstein, Epstein or even Polanski or Woody Allen have wholly escaped consequences for their deplorable behavior is untrue.

Agreed. Kobe did not pay for his crime. People are getting upset because they do not want it even mentioned. Dude, materially he did not lose anything. As for his legacy? Whatever. If you are into basketball you will be impressed. He got away with doing the time because of who he was and because of money.
Venessa and her kids are at least ok financially. I wonder how the other families will good with the losses and the financial implication.

Vanessa set up funds for them. Go do some research.

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Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

It is being dismissed by 99% of the human race because he didn't rape anyone. Of course there are hateful people, trolls, SJW types, etc, who will try to get some attention out of it and make themselves feel good.

Pretty much. Bored beckys who have nothing else going in their life and spend their free time hating on a dead man while totally being ok with creeps like Harvey Weinstein and Stephen Collins (7th heaven dad who molested several girls up until 1995) who are roaming the world free. For those men, it’s “just a mistake” but for Kobe, he should go down as a rapist based even though it’s unconvicted.

Show me one person who thinks Harvey Weinstein or Stephen Collins should go free. Just one.

They ARE free. That’s the issue. Stephen Collins literally went on ABC in an interview and that was the end of it. 7th heaven still airs currently. Meanwhile, Cosby is locked up and they have taken Cosby off syndication.

That tells you a lot. If you think race isn’t a factor, you’re being obtusely ignorant.

I think you've lost the plot a bit here. Kobe also was walking around free. I wholeheartedly agree that black men are always held to a higher standard than white men. But to state that Weinstein, Epstein or even Polanski or Woody Allen have wholly escaped consequences for their deplorable behavior is untrue.

Kobe wasn’t convicted. They settled and she walked away with money. He never went on to commit anything like that again. In fact he stayed out of the papers. Woody Allen is walking around like he did nothing. No charges. Still making movies. How long did it take to finally bring down the others? How many women had to be hurt before the others were even mentioned?

He continued to cheat and his wife wanted to divorce him in 2011. Lolz. He was very much in the news because he continued to remain a scumbag. My take is that his handlers were probably procuring these women after thoroughly vetting them and making them sign NDAs. He lived his life wonderfully. Even his end was not horrible or ignominious like Jeffery Epstein. So he made out better than others.

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Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

It is being dismissed by 99% of the human race because he didn't rape anyone. Of course there are hateful people, trolls, SJW types, etc, who will try to get some attention out of it and make themselves feel good.

Pretty much. Bored beckys who have nothing else going in their life and spend their free time hating on a dead man while totally being ok with creeps like Harvey Weinstein and Stephen Collins (7th heaven dad who molested several girls up until 1995) who are roaming the world free. For those men, it’s “just a mistake” but for Kobe, he should go down as a rapist based even though it’s unconvicted.

Show me one person who thinks Harvey Weinstein or Stephen Collins should go free. Just one.

They ARE free. That’s the issue. Stephen Collins literally went on ABC in an interview and that was the end of it. 7th heaven still airs currently. Meanwhile, Cosby is locked up and they have taken Cosby off syndication.

That tells you a lot. If you think race isn’t a factor, you’re being obtusely ignorant.

I think you've lost the plot a bit here. Kobe also was walking around free. I wholeheartedly agree that black men are always held to a higher standard than white men. But to state that Weinstein, Epstein or even Polanski or Woody Allen have wholly escaped consequences for their deplorable behavior is untrue.

Kobe wasn’t convicted. They settled and she walked away with money. He never went on to commit anything like that again. In fact he stayed out of the papers. Woody Allen is walking around like he did nothing. No charges. Still making movies. How long did it take to finally bring down the others? How many women had to be hurt before the others were even mentioned?

He continued to cheat and his wife wanted to divorce him in 2011. Lolz. He was very much in the news because he continued to remain a scumbag. My take is that his handlers were probably procuring these women after thoroughly vetting them and making them sign NDAs. He lived his life wonderfully. Even his end was not horrible or ignominious like Jeffery Epstein. So he made out better than others.

My take is that they were black women so no one gave a shit.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many of the rape apologists are also the ones who commit spousal rape. Rough sex, BDSM, bondage, swinging, multiple.partned - people can enjoy all of that as long as there is consent. No one actually gets injured to the extent that they are bleeding out from the vagina. Even bdsm has safe words. He was basically a criminal who did not get legally charged. And the continued adultery? Venessa stuck with him for her kids.
He was a great dad to any daughter or youngster who wanted to play basketball. He was not a great example to his daughters about what to look for in a spouse.

Wrong. You are reaching so hard. Vaginal bleeding can happen from consensual sex quite easily. You know nothing about why Vanessa stayed so stop speculating.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many of the rape apologists are also the ones who commit spousal rape. Rough sex, BDSM, bondage, swinging, multiple.partned - people can enjoy all of that as long as there is consent. No one actually gets injured to the extent that they are bleeding out from the vagina. Even bdsm has safe words. He was basically a criminal who did not get legally charged. And the continued adultery? Venessa stuck with him for her kids.
He was a great dad to any daughter or youngster who wanted to play basketball. He was not a great example to his daughters about what to look for in a spouse.

You think one sided and that sucks for you. You think to comfort yourself and that’s a shame. He was basically an athlete who got accused of rape buy a woman who chose money over court. He was never convicted. He wasn’t a criminal. Unless you were in that room watching you cannot call him a rapist. Rape apologists doesn’t work here as the rape was never proven nor was he convicted. Don’t throw around words in an effort to make yourself feel better.

I don't have to comfort myself or feel better. I am alive. I have not been raped. I am not married to a rapist.
Venessa was not a Lorena Bobbitt. As I said, he lived his life without consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

It is being dismissed by 99% of the human race because he didn't rape anyone. Of course there are hateful people, trolls, SJW types, etc, who will try to get some attention out of it and make themselves feel good.

Pretty much. Bored beckys who have nothing else going in their life and spend their free time hating on a dead man while totally being ok with creeps like Harvey Weinstein and Stephen Collins (7th heaven dad who molested several girls up until 1995) who are roaming the world free. For those men, it’s “just a mistake” but for Kobe, he should go down as a rapist based even though it’s unconvicted.

Show me one person who thinks Harvey Weinstein or Stephen Collins should go free. Just one.

They ARE free. That’s the issue. Stephen Collins literally went on ABC in an interview and that was the end of it. 7th heaven still airs currently. Meanwhile, Cosby is locked up and they have taken Cosby off syndication.

That tells you a lot. If you think race isn’t a factor, you’re being obtusely ignorant.

I think you've lost the plot a bit here. Kobe also was walking around free. I wholeheartedly agree that black men are always held to a higher standard than white men. But to state that Weinstein, Epstein or even Polanski or Woody Allen have wholly escaped consequences for their deplorable behavior is untrue.

Kobe wasn’t convicted. They settled and she walked away with money. He never went on to commit anything like that again. In fact he stayed out of the papers. Woody Allen is walking around like he did nothing. No charges. Still making movies. How long did it take to finally bring down the others? How many women had to be hurt before the others were even mentioned?

So they both got off scott-free, because they are rich and famous. Isn’t that the problem?

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Anonymous wrote:I think many of the rape apologists are also the ones who commit spousal rape. Rough sex, BDSM, bondage, swinging, multiple.partned - people can enjoy all of that as long as there is consent. No one actually gets injured to the extent that they are bleeding out from the vagina. Even bdsm has safe words. He was basically a criminal who did not get legally charged. And the continued adultery? Venessa stuck with him for her kids.
He was a great dad to any daughter or youngster who wanted to play basketball. He was not a great example to his daughters about what to look for in a spouse.

Wrong. You are reaching so hard. Vaginal bleeding can happen from consensual sex quite easily. You know nothing about why Vanessa stayed so stop speculating.

She stayed because of money, lifestyle and a kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

It is being dismissed by 99% of the human race because he didn't rape anyone. Of course there are hateful people, trolls, SJW types, etc, who will try to get some attention out of it and make themselves feel good.

Pretty much. Bored beckys who have nothing else going in their life and spend their free time hating on a dead man while totally being ok with creeps like Harvey Weinstein and Stephen Collins (7th heaven dad who molested several girls up until 1995) who are roaming the world free. For those men, it’s “just a mistake” but for Kobe, he should go down as a rapist based even though it’s unconvicted.

Show me one person who thinks Harvey Weinstein or Stephen Collins should go free. Just one.

They ARE free. That’s the issue. Stephen Collins literally went on ABC in an interview and that was the end of it. 7th heaven still airs currently. Meanwhile, Cosby is locked up and they have taken Cosby off syndication.

That tells you a lot. If you think race isn’t a factor, you’re being obtusely ignorant.

I think you've lost the plot a bit here. Kobe also was walking around free. I wholeheartedly agree that black men are always held to a higher standard than white men. But to state that Weinstein, Epstein or even Polanski or Woody Allen have wholly escaped consequences for their deplorable behavior is untrue.

Kobe wasn’t convicted. They settled and she walked away with money. He never went on to commit anything like that again. In fact he stayed out of the papers. Woody Allen is walking around like he did nothing. No charges. Still making movies. How long did it take to finally bring down the others? How many women had to be hurt before the others were even mentioned?

So they both got off scott-free, because they are rich and famous. Isn’t that the problem?

+1
Rich and focus get away with abusing women. This has to stop.
#kobebryantrapist

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Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

It is being dismissed by 99% of the human race because he didn't rape anyone. Of course there are hateful people, trolls, SJW types, etc, who will try to get some attention out of it and make themselves feel good.

Pretty much. Bored beckys who have nothing else going in their life and spend their free time hating on a dead man while totally being ok with creeps like Harvey Weinstein and Stephen Collins (7th heaven dad who molested several girls up until 1995) who are roaming the world free. For those men, it’s “just a mistake” but for Kobe, he should go down as a rapist based even though it’s unconvicted.

Show me one person who thinks Harvey Weinstein or Stephen Collins should go free. Just one.

They ARE free. That’s the issue. Stephen Collins literally went on ABC in an interview and that was the end of it. 7th heaven still airs currently. Meanwhile, Cosby is locked up and they have taken Cosby off syndication.

That tells you a lot. If you think race isn’t a factor, you’re being obtusely ignorant.

I think you've lost the plot a bit here. Kobe also was walking around free. I wholeheartedly agree that black men are always held to a higher standard than white men. But to state that Weinstein, Epstein or even Polanski or Woody Allen have wholly escaped consequences for their deplorable behavior is untrue.

Kobe wasn’t convicted. They settled and she walked away with money. He never went on to commit anything like that again. In fact he stayed out of the papers. Woody Allen is walking around like he did nothing. No charges. Still making movies. How long did it take to finally bring down the others? How many women had to be hurt before the others were even mentioned?

He continued to cheat and his wife wanted to divorce him in 2011. Lolz. He was very much in the news because he continued to remain a scumbag. My take is that his handlers were probably procuring these women after thoroughly vetting them and making them sign NDAs. He lived his life wonderfully. Even his end was not horrible or ignominious like Jeffery Epstein. So he made out better than others.

My take is that they were black women so no one gave a shit.

He married a Latina, he probably went for young women of all races, who could be manipulated and intimidated or professionals. It is not a race thing. It is a money and power thing. Jeffery Epstein was doing this kind of perversion and was not supplying girls to middle class desk jockeys, was he?

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It is criminal to rape women.

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Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

It is being dismissed by 99% of the human race because he didn't rape anyone. Of course there are hateful people, trolls, SJW types, etc, who will try to get some attention out of it and make themselves feel good.

Pretty much. Bored beckys who have nothing else going in their life and spend their free time hating on a dead man while totally being ok with creeps like Harvey Weinstein and Stephen Collins (7th heaven dad who molested several girls up until 1995) who are roaming the world free. For those men, it’s “just a mistake” but for Kobe, he should go down as a rapist based even though it’s unconvicted.

Show me one person who thinks Harvey Weinstein or Stephen Collins should go free. Just one.

They ARE free. That’s the issue. Stephen Collins literally went on ABC in an interview and that was the end of it. 7th heaven still airs currently. Meanwhile, Cosby is locked up and they have taken Cosby off syndication.

That tells you a lot. If you think race isn’t a factor, you’re being obtusely ignorant.

I think you've lost the plot a bit here. Kobe also was walking around free. I wholeheartedly agree that black men are always held to a higher standard than white men. But to state that Weinstein, Epstein or even Polanski or Woody Allen have wholly escaped consequences for their deplorable behavior is untrue.

Kobe wasn’t convicted. They settled and she walked away with money. He never went on to commit anything like that again. In fact he stayed out of the papers. Woody Allen is walking around like he did nothing. No charges. Still making movies. How long did it take to finally bring down the others? How many women had to be hurt before the others were even mentioned?

So they both got off scott-free, because they are rich and famous. Isn’t that the problem?

+1
Rich and focus get away with abusing women. This has to stop.
#kobebryantrapist

So you were there? You know for a fact he raped a woman? You should’ve went to the police.

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Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

It is being dismissed by 99% of the human race because he didn't rape anyone. Of course there are hateful people, trolls, SJW types, etc, who will try to get some attention out of it and make themselves feel good.

Pretty much. Bored beckys who have nothing else going in their life and spend their free time hating on a dead man while totally being ok with creeps like Harvey Weinstein and Stephen Collins (7th heaven dad who molested several girls up until 1995) who are roaming the world free. For those men, it’s “just a mistake” but for Kobe, he should go down as a rapist based even though it’s unconvicted.

Show me one person who thinks Harvey Weinstein or Stephen Collins should go free. Just one.

They ARE free. That’s the issue. Stephen Collins literally went on ABC in an interview and that was the end of it. 7th heaven still airs currently. Meanwhile, Cosby is locked up and they have taken Cosby off syndication.

That tells you a lot. If you think race isn’t a factor, you’re being obtusely ignorant.

I think you've lost the plot a bit here. Kobe also was walking around free. I wholeheartedly agree that black men are always held to a higher standard than white men. But to state that Weinstein, Epstein or even Polanski or Woody Allen have wholly escaped consequences for their deplorable behavior is untrue.

Kobe wasn’t convicted. They settled and she walked away with money. He never went on to commit anything like that again. In fact he stayed out of the papers. Woody Allen is walking around like he did nothing. No charges. Still making movies. How long did it take to finally bring down the others? How many women had to be hurt before the others were even mentioned?

He continued to cheat and his wife wanted to divorce him in 2011. Lolz. He was very much in the news because he continued to remain a scumbag. My take is that his handlers were probably procuring these women after thoroughly vetting them and making them sign NDAs. He lived his life wonderfully. Even his end was not horrible or ignominious like Jeffery Epstein. So he made out better than others.

My take is that they were black women so no one gave a shit.

He married a Latina, he probably went for young women of all races, who could be manipulated and intimidated or professionals. It is not a race thing. It is a money and power thing. Jeffery Epstein was doing this kind of perversion and was not supplying girls to middle class desk jockeys, was he?

If Jeffrey would have peddled out teenage black girls he'd still be alive partying with Prince Andrew and no one would raise an eyebrow about his pedophilia.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many of the rape apologists are also the ones who commit spousal rape. Rough sex, BDSM, bondage, swinging, multiple.partned - people can enjoy all of that as long as there is consent. No one actually gets injured to the extent that they are bleeding out from the vagina. Even bdsm has safe words. He was basically a criminal who did not get legally charged. And the continued adultery? Venessa stuck with him for her kids.
He was a great dad to any daughter or youngster who wanted to play basketball. He was not a great example to his daughters about what to look for in a spouse.

Imagine being this ignorant.

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There’s lots of systemic racism in the American justice system.

Kobe was not exactly its biggest victim.