Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so naive when it comes to media coverage.
Law enforcement officers have thousands of interactions with the public EVERY DAY.
The vast majority end with no incident.
These don’t get any press coverage because it doesn’t make for good viewership/readership.
The few incidents cited here are not the norm.
[/b]Yes, when police officers act badly, they should be held accountable.
But, once again, there are people who are condemning most law enforcement officers for actions of a VERY SMALL MINORITY.
As a result, we have many youth and young adults who are uncooperative and outright disrespectful and this behavior is excused and in some cases, applauded by way too many people.

Totally agree with this. The girl did not deserve the brutality from the police officer. He completely overreacted and was in the wrong in this case, but I also don't know why people think it's okay to mouth-off to authority, particularly the police. The cop was obviously highly-stressed and ill-prepared to handle the situation. However, people of every color need to sit down and be quiet when an officer tells you to do something. [b]Or walk away like he told her to do. Period. He's got a gun. It's a highly stressful situation. It could escalate into something much more tragic quickly.

Oh.my.god.

SHE WAS WALKING AWAY LIKE HE TOLD HER TO DO.

When I say walk away, I mean turn yourself around with your mouth shut and completely leave the area where the cop is. I don't mean repeatedly turn back and mouth-off to the officer.
Again I didn't say she deserved the brutality. But I also think for everyone's safety it's imperative to do as your told in a high-stress situation like that.

Really? Because when I say "walk away" what I mean is walk away from the area. "Keep your mouth shut" is another instruction and "completely leave the area" is only possible if the cop who instructed you to "get your ass out of here" doesn't then physically drag you back to the area you were trying to leave.

When I was a teenager, if a cop was selectively detaining only me and my friends without letting us tell our side of the story, I almost certainly would have protested "We didn't do anything wrong" and the cop would have told me to shut up, but he would not have thrown me to the ground and sat on me or pulled a gun on me. But I am white.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so naive when it comes to media coverage.
Law enforcement officers have thousands of interactions with the public EVERY DAY.
The vast majority end with no incident.
These don’t get any press coverage because it doesn’t make for good viewership/readership.
The few incidents cited here are not the norm.
[/b]Yes, when police officers act badly, they should be held accountable.
But, once again, there are people who are condemning most law enforcement officers for actions of a VERY SMALL MINORITY.
As a result, we have many youth and young adults who are uncooperative and outright disrespectful and this behavior is excused and in some cases, applauded by way too many people.

Totally agree with this. The girl did not deserve the brutality from the police officer. He completely overreacted and was in the wrong in this case, but I also don't know why people think it's okay to mouth-off to authority, particularly the police. The cop was obviously highly-stressed and ill-prepared to handle the situation. However, people of every color need to sit down and be quiet when an officer tells you to do something. [b]Or walk away like he told her to do. Period. He's got a gun. It's a highly stressful situation. It could escalate into something much more tragic quickly.

Oh.my.god.

SHE WAS WALKING AWAY LIKE HE TOLD HER TO DO.

When I say walk away, I mean turn yourself around with your mouth shut and completely leave the area where the cop is. I don't mean repeatedly turn back and mouth-off to the officer.
Again I didn't say she deserved the brutality. But I also think for everyone's safety it's imperative to do as your told in a high-stress situation like that.

Really? Because when I say "walk away" what I mean is walk away from the area. "Keep your mouth shut" is another instruction and "completely leave the area" is only possible if the cop who instructed you to "get your ass out of here" doesn't then physically drag you back to the area you were trying to leave.

When I was a teenager, if a cop was selectively detaining only me and my friends without letting us tell our side of the story, I almost certainly would have protested "We didn't do anything wrong" and the cop would have told me to shut up, but he would not have thrown me to the ground and sat on me or pulled a gun on me. But I am white.

+1. I am somewhat puzzled that people are coming down on an 8th grader for not having the maturity and composure that an adult should have. She was irrational and emotional in response to someone being emotional and irrational with her a nd her group of friends. I would like to think that my 14YO just graduated 8th grade self would have handled it better - but I am not so sure. And I was raised in a suburban MC home as this girl seems to be. He cursed at her and her friends, it is really that unreasonable to think that teenager might say something back? The girl may have been wrong for mouthing off, but I expect the adult to be the more mature one in situations like this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The question was asked but not answered. What were the indications that the cop's misbehavior was racially motivated?

He wasn't yelling at or pulling the hair of or sitting on or pulling his gun on any of the white kids. Without any investigation, he treated every black kid as a dangerous criminal suspect and every white person as an innocent victim.

How many black kids' hairs was he pulling exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so naive when it comes to media coverage.
Law enforcement officers have thousands of interactions with the public EVERY DAY.
The vast majority end with no incident.
These don’t get any press coverage because it doesn’t make for good viewership/readership.
The few incidents cited here are not the norm.
[/b]Yes, when police officers act badly, they should be held accountable.
But, once again, there are people who are condemning most law enforcement officers for actions of a VERY SMALL MINORITY.
As a result, we have many youth and young adults who are uncooperative and outright disrespectful and this behavior is excused and in some cases, applauded by way too many people.

Totally agree with this. The girl did not deserve the brutality from the police officer. He completely overreacted and was in the wrong in this case, but I also don't know why people think it's okay to mouth-off to authority, particularly the police. The cop was obviously highly-stressed and ill-prepared to handle the situation. However, people of every color need to sit down and be quiet when an officer tells you to do something. [b]Or walk away like he told her to do. Period. He's got a gun. It's a highly stressful situation. It could escalate into something much more tragic quickly.

Oh.my.god.

SHE WAS WALKING AWAY LIKE HE TOLD HER TO DO.

When I say walk away, I mean turn yourself around with your mouth shut and completely leave the area where the cop is. I don't mean repeatedly turn back and mouth-off to the officer.
Again I didn't say she deserved the brutality. But I also think for everyone's safety it's imperative to do as your told in a high-stress situation like that.

Really? Because when I say "walk away" what I mean is walk away from the area. "Keep your mouth shut" is another instruction and "completely leave the area" is only possible if the cop who instructed you to "get your ass out of here" doesn't then physically drag you back to the area you were trying to leave.

When I was a teenager, if a cop was selectively detaining only me and my friends without letting us tell our side of the story, I almost certainly would have protested "We didn't do anything wrong" and the cop would have told me to shut up, but he would not have thrown me to the ground and sat on me or pulled a gun on me. But I am white.

+1. I am somewhat puzzled that people are coming down on an 8th grader for not having the maturity and composure that an adult should have. She was irrational and emotional in response to someone being emotional and irrational with her a nd her group of friends. I would like to think that my 14YO just graduated 8th grade self would have handled it better - but I am not so sure. And I was raised in a suburban MC home as this girl seems to be. He cursed at her and her friends, it is really that unreasonable to think that teenager might say something back? The girl may have been wrong for mouthing off, but I expect the adult to be the more mature one in situations like this.

Both were wrong and until we stopping make excuses for both sides and holding each person for accountability child or adult white or black we will still have this two sided issue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so naive when it comes to media coverage.
Law enforcement officers have thousands of interactions with the public EVERY DAY.
The vast majority end with no incident.
These don’t get any press coverage because it doesn’t make for good viewership/readership.
The few incidents cited here are not the norm.
[/b]Yes, when police officers act badly, they should be held accountable.
But, once again, there are people who are condemning most law enforcement officers for actions of a VERY SMALL MINORITY.
As a result, we have many youth and young adults who are uncooperative and outright disrespectful and this behavior is excused and in some cases, applauded by way too many people.

Totally agree with this. The girl did not deserve the brutality from the police officer. He completely overreacted and was in the wrong in this case, but I also don't know why people think it's okay to mouth-off to authority, particularly the police. The cop was obviously highly-stressed and ill-prepared to handle the situation. However, people of every color need to sit down and be quiet when an officer tells you to do something. [b]Or walk away like he told her to do. Period. He's got a gun. It's a highly stressful situation. It could escalate into something much more tragic quickly.

Oh.my.god.

SHE WAS WALKING AWAY LIKE HE TOLD HER TO DO.

When I say walk away, I mean turn yourself around with your mouth shut and completely leave the area where the cop is. I don't mean repeatedly turn back and mouth-off to the officer.
Again I didn't say she deserved the brutality. But I also think for everyone's safety it's imperative to do as your told in a high-stress situation like that.

Really? Because when I say "walk away" what I mean is walk away from the area. "Keep your mouth shut" is another instruction and "completely leave the area" is only possible if the cop who instructed you to "get your ass out of here" doesn't then physically drag you back to the area you were trying to leave.

Oh boy. I'm pretty sure if an officer tells you to get your ass out of here, it goes without saying that you should keep your mouth shut and leave as soon as possible. I understand he did drag her back after she ran her mouth. Totally inexcusable, BUT, we also have to respect authority and not mouth-off, particularly in a high-stress situation like this.

Every time you say "totally inexcusable, BUT..." the BUT renders the first two words obsolete. Your "BUT" implies that, in fact, the actions were excusable because the teenager should have known better than to respond the way she did.

When I was a teenager, some friends and I were in a park. We weren't doing anything wrong. We were just hanging out after school. Cop on patrol stopped, asked us what we were doing. We responded "hanging out" and he suggested that we "move along." Our actual response was "Why? It's a public park and we're not doing anything wrong."

No one was thrown to the ground and no one pulled a gun. That said, we were all white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The question was asked but not answered. What were the indications that the cop's misbehavior was racially motivated?

He wasn't yelling at or pulling the hair of or sitting on or pulling his gun on any of the white kids. Without any investigation, he treated every black kid as a dangerous criminal suspect and every white person as an innocent victim.

How many black kids' hairs was he pulling exactly?

Tough guy picked out one 14-year-old girl to manhandle. That was all he could handle. He pulled the gun on the boys even though they were not threatening him or anyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so naive when it comes to media coverage.
Law enforcement officers have thousands of interactions with the public EVERY DAY.
The vast majority end with no incident.
These don’t get any press coverage because it doesn’t make for good viewership/readership.
The few incidents cited here are not the norm.
[/b]Yes, when police officers act badly, they should be held accountable.
But, once again, there are people who are condemning most law enforcement officers for actions of a VERY SMALL MINORITY.
As a result, we have many youth and young adults who are uncooperative and outright disrespectful and this behavior is excused and in some cases, applauded by way too many people.

Totally agree with this. The girl did not deserve the brutality from the police officer. He completely overreacted and was in the wrong in this case, but I also don't know why people think it's okay to mouth-off to authority, particularly the police. The cop was obviously highly-stressed and ill-prepared to handle the situation. However, people of every color need to sit down and be quiet when an officer tells you to do something. [b]Or walk away like he told her to do. Period. He's got a gun. It's a highly stressful situation. It could escalate into something much more tragic quickly.

Oh.my.god.

SHE WAS WALKING AWAY LIKE HE TOLD HER TO DO.

When I say walk away, I mean turn yourself around with your mouth shut and completely leave the area where the cop is. I don't mean repeatedly turn back and mouth-off to the officer.
Again I didn't say she deserved the brutality. But I also think for everyone's safety it's imperative to do as your told in a high-stress situation like that.

Really? Because when I say "walk away" what I mean is walk away from the area. "Keep your mouth shut" is another instruction and "completely leave the area" is only possible if the cop who instructed you to "get your ass out of here" doesn't then physically drag you back to the area you were trying to leave.

When I was a teenager, if a cop was selectively detaining only me and my friends without letting us tell our side of the story, I almost certainly would have protested "We didn't do anything wrong" and the cop would have told me to shut up, but he would not have thrown me to the ground and sat on me or pulled a gun on me. But I am white.

+1. I am somewhat puzzled that people are coming down on an 8th grader for not having the maturity and composure that an adult should have. She was irrational and emotional in response to someone being emotional and irrational with her a nd her group of friends. I would like to think that my 14YO just graduated 8th grade self would have handled it better - but I am not so sure. And I was raised in a suburban MC home as this girl seems to be. He cursed at her and her friends, it is really that unreasonable to think that teenager might say something back? The girl may have been wrong for mouthing off, but I expect the adult to be the more mature one in situations like this.

Both were wrong and until we stopping make excuses for both sides and holding each person for accountability child or adult white or black we will still have this two sided issue

No one is making excuses. I have said more than once the girl was wrong. Maybe it is just me, but I do not hold an 8th grader to the same standard of maturity and composure that I would hold an adult who is purportedly trained to deal with these types of situations. I expect the police in my neighborhood to be more mature and level headed than a MS student. But I guess that is just me. They both were wrong, but the adult was MORE wrong. IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so naive when it comes to media coverage.
Law enforcement officers have thousands of interactions with the public EVERY DAY.
The vast majority end with no incident.
These don’t get any press coverage because it doesn’t make for good viewership/readership.
The few incidents cited here are not the norm.
[/b]Yes, when police officers act badly, they should be held accountable.
But, once again, there are people who are condemning most law enforcement officers for actions of a VERY SMALL MINORITY.
As a result, we have many youth and young adults who are uncooperative and outright disrespectful and this behavior is excused and in some cases, applauded by way too many people.

Totally agree with this. The girl did not deserve the brutality from the police officer. He completely overreacted and was in the wrong in this case, but I also don't know why people think it's okay to mouth-off to authority, particularly the police. The cop was obviously highly-stressed and ill-prepared to handle the situation. However, people of every color need to sit down and be quiet when an officer tells you to do something. [b]Or walk away like he told her to do. Period. He's got a gun. It's a highly stressful situation. It could escalate into something much more tragic quickly.

Oh.my.god.

SHE WAS WALKING AWAY LIKE HE TOLD HER TO DO.

When I say walk away, I mean turn yourself around with your mouth shut and completely leave the area where the cop is. I don't mean repeatedly turn back and mouth-off to the officer.
Again I didn't say she deserved the brutality. But I also think for everyone's safety it's imperative to do as your told in a high-stress situation like that.

Really? Because when I say "walk away" what I mean is walk away from the area. "Keep your mouth shut" is another instruction and "completely leave the area" is only possible if the cop who instructed you to "get your ass out of here" doesn't then physically drag you back to the area you were trying to leave.

Oh boy. I'm pretty sure if an officer tells you to get your ass out of here, it goes without saying that you should keep your mouth shut and leave as soon as possible. I understand he did drag her back after she ran her mouth. Totally inexcusable, BUT, we also have to respect authority and not mouth-off, particularly in a high-stress situation like this.

Every time you say "totally inexcusable, BUT..." the BUT renders the first two words obsolete. Your "BUT" implies that, in fact, the actions were excusable because the teenager should have known better than to respond the way she did.

When I was a teenager, some friends and I were in a park. We weren't doing anything wrong. We were just hanging out after school. Cop on patrol stopped, asked us what we were doing. We responded "hanging out" and he suggested that we "move along." Our actual response was "Why? It's a public park and we're not doing anything wrong."

No one was thrown to the ground and no one pulled a gun. That said, we were all white.

No, not at all. In this situation the cop's actions were totally inexcusable. Period. He completely overreacted. That being said, there's a teachable moment here. Particularly for the youth. Not all officers are going to be calm and collected. They should be. But they won't always. Going forward, teenagers (or anyone for that matter) that comes across a stressed-out, highly volatile cop may want to be quiet and walk the other way quickly if instructed to do so, so as to not escalate the situation any further. That situation could've easily turned out even worse.

I would

[Anonymous]

"No one is making excuses. I have said more than once the girl was wrong. Maybe it is just me, but I do not hold an 8th grader to the same standard of maturity and composure that I would hold an adult who is purportedly trained to deal with these types of situations. I expect the police in my neighborhood to be more mature and level headed than a MS student. But I guess that is just me. They both were wrong, but the adult was MORE wrong. IMO."

+1

Why is this so hard for some people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so naive when it comes to media coverage.
Law enforcement officers have thousands of interactions with the public EVERY DAY.
The vast majority end with no incident.
These don’t get any press coverage because it doesn’t make for good viewership/readership.
The few incidents cited here are not the norm.
[/b]Yes, when police officers act badly, they should be held accountable.
But, once again, there are people who are condemning most law enforcement officers for actions of a VERY SMALL MINORITY.
As a result, we have many youth and young adults who are uncooperative and outright disrespectful and this behavior is excused and in some cases, applauded by way too many people.

Totally agree with this. The girl did not deserve the brutality from the police officer. He completely overreacted and was in the wrong in this case, but I also don't know why people think it's okay to mouth-off to authority, particularly the police. The cop was obviously highly-stressed and ill-prepared to handle the situation. However, people of every color need to sit down and be quiet when an officer tells you to do something. [b]Or walk away like he told her to do. Period. He's got a gun. It's a highly stressful situation. It could escalate into something much more tragic quickly.

Oh.my.god.

SHE WAS WALKING AWAY LIKE HE TOLD HER TO DO.

When I say walk away, I mean turn yourself around with your mouth shut and completely leave the area where the cop is. I don't mean repeatedly turn back and mouth-off to the officer.
Again I didn't say she deserved the brutality. But I also think for everyone's safety it's imperative to do as your told in a high-stress situation like that.

Really? Because when I say "walk away" what I mean is walk away from the area. "Keep your mouth shut" is another instruction and "completely leave the area" is only possible if the cop who instructed you to "get your ass out of here" doesn't then physically drag you back to the area you were trying to leave.

Oh boy. I'm pretty sure if an officer tells you to get your ass out of here, it goes without saying that you should keep your mouth shut and leave as soon as possible. I understand he did drag her back after she ran her mouth. Totally inexcusable, BUT, we also have to respect authority and not mouth-off, particularly in a high-stress situation like this.

Every time you say "totally inexcusable, BUT..." the BUT renders the first two words obsolete. Your "BUT" implies that, in fact, the actions were excusable because the teenager should have known better than to respond the way she did.

When I was a teenager, some friends and I were in a park. We weren't doing anything wrong. We were just hanging out after school. Cop on patrol stopped, asked us what we were doing. We responded "hanging out" and he suggested that we "move along." Our actual response was "Why? It's a public park and we're not doing anything wrong."

No one was thrown to the ground and no one pulled a gun. That said, we were all white.

How are old you? No snark, just curiosity. I was born early 70s and was taught to respect authority and not question it, so even if I hadn't been doing anything wrong I wouldn't have questioned the instruction. I generally thought the kids of my generation felt the same way but I am willing to admit I could be totally wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are so naive when it comes to media coverage.
Law enforcement officers have thousands of interactions with the public EVERY DAY.
The vast majority end with no incident.
These don’t get any press coverage because it doesn’t make for good viewership/readership.
The few incidents cited here are not the norm.
[/b]Yes, when police officers act badly, they should be held accountable.
But, once again, there are people who are condemning most law enforcement officers for actions of a VERY SMALL MINORITY.
As a result, we have many youth and young adults who are uncooperative and outright disrespectful and this behavior is excused and in some cases, applauded by way too many people.

Totally agree with this. The girl did not deserve the brutality from the police officer. He completely overreacted and was in the wrong in this case, but I also don't know why people think it's okay to mouth-off to authority, particularly the police. The cop was obviously highly-stressed and ill-prepared to handle the situation. However, people of every color need to sit down and be quiet when an officer tells you to do something. [b]Or walk away like he told her to do. Period. He's got a gun. It's a highly stressful situation. It could escalate into something much more tragic quickly.

Oh.my.god.

SHE WAS WALKING AWAY LIKE HE TOLD HER TO DO.

When I say walk away, I mean turn yourself around with your mouth shut and completely leave the area where the cop is. I don't mean repeatedly turn back and mouth-off to the officer.
Again I didn't say she deserved the brutality. But I also think for everyone's safety it's imperative to do as your told in a high-stress situation like that.

Really? Because when I say "walk away" what I mean is walk away from the area. "Keep your mouth shut" is another instruction and "completely leave the area" is only possible if the cop who instructed you to "get your ass out of here" doesn't then physically drag you back to the area you were trying to leave.

Oh boy. I'm pretty sure if an officer tells you to get your ass out of here, it goes without saying that you should keep your mouth shut and leave as soon as possible. I understand he did drag her back after she ran her mouth. Totally inexcusable, BUT, we also have to respect authority and not mouth-off, particularly in a high-stress situation like this.

Every time you say "totally inexcusable, BUT..." the BUT renders the first two words obsolete. Your "BUT" implies that, in fact, the actions were excusable because the teenager should have known better than to respond the way she did.

When I was a teenager, some friends and I were in a park. We weren't doing anything wrong. We were just hanging out after school. Cop on patrol stopped, asked us what we were doing. We responded "hanging out" and he suggested that we "move along." Our actual response was "Why? It's a public park and we're not doing anything wrong."

No one was thrown to the ground and no one pulled a gun. That said, we were all white.

My white son was thrown to the ground, manhandled and had a gun drown on him in Rockville, MD. He was 12, he had a toy gun, and was running through neighbor's yards (which he was told not to do). He learned his lesson. He did get on the ground and shut his mouth though when told to do so, as did his Hispanic friend. He did not mouth off and tell the cops... but... but... but ... it's a toy gun, this is legal, i didn't do anything wrong. He waited until an adult arrived.

He was shoked, he was startled, I was pissed, but then I came to my senses.

[Anonymous]

Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.

I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.

Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.

I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.

Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.

Imagine if the chief had this information when he made his first statements. Alas, he caved to media pressure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.

I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.

Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.

Yeah but
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-pool-party-sued-2008-accused-abusing-driver-article-1.2251191

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Casebolt had just come from a scene where a man had blown his brains out in front of his family.

I'm going to give him a pass on being a bit emotional that day.

Y'all can behave as you will. Carry on.

Imagine if the chief had this information when he made his first statements. Alas, he caved to media pressure.

Of course the chief had this info. The chief wanted him gone, for good reason.