U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts on Friday called for a response from a Virginia school

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Anonymous wrote:TJ's racist policy that your tax dollars is defending cut the Asian entry by half

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/04/fairfax-co-schools-defends-admissions-policy-at-thomas-jefferson-hs/

“By half”? Guess you’re not so good with numbers?

Recap of admission #s from 2024 to 2025:
+64 overall

+50 female
+14 male

+46 hispanic +242%
+37 white +26%
+29 black +245%
+8 other/mixed +26%
-56 asian -26%

+142 from underrepresented MSs
-36 private school

And despite that TJ is still over 50% Asian right?

Yup. Headline: Group That Is Over-Represented Threefold Thinks It’s Racist That They’re No Longer Over-Represented Four-Fold

+1 And something must be done about this!

Keep going. This "racial balancing" motivation is what is being questioned by the court. You can have a great outcome but if the process to get there is not constitutional then it does not matter. But keep going. You guys dont care how unfair/unconstitutional a process is as long as it gets your goals.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that the approach sucked but the outcome is a step in the right direction.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that ends do not justify the means in any modern democracy. If that does not sink in from a constitutional perspective, let me give you something you can relate to.

Even if you catch a murderer red-handed and dont follow due process like reading the Miranda rights, you will not get the conviction.

There are many on this forum who are on board with increasing diversity at TJ but you have to do it the right way.

What is the right way to increase diversity at TJ?

Define diversity - if you do it by skin color, you've already lost the argument. Prove that TJ is not diverse; again if you come up with a race chart, you've already lost.

And attituteds like that are why the school is going to end up closed or as an academy

In other words, you are either unable to or unwilling to even define diversity except in a racist way, and would rather that a school close down than have it not be involved in implementing your desired racist policies.

You've solved the problems. No black kids at a school isn't an issue if mentioning that there are no black kids at the school is racist. Congratulations.

That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving.

Cool, now get the Board and, more importantly, local voters to agree. Your solution really is genius, I think you should start publicizing it widely- no racism because pointing out racism is in itself racist

Again, that's not what I said. Your lack of reading comprehension is at an impressive level.

Or maybe views like "That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving." will go over better in Alabama.

So first you mischaracterize what I said, and when challenged, you try to assail what I said by inferring that it is somehow unwholesome through a worthless innuendo. Your thoughts are shallow and your character bankrupt.

What you said amounts to racist garbage

+1000. Do you think the Coalition-aligned folks simply don't understand their racism or that they understand it and therefore are using the Russian "accusation as confession" tactic?

One side here is defending a policy that's been found to be racist in federal court.

and the other is defending a system that has historically excluded black, hispanic, and poor students

And you’re both fighting about who attends one elitist school that is attended by no more than 3% of FCPS high school students and chews up a wildly disproportionate amount of FCPS’s time. So none of you exactly like come out smelling like roses.

Yet, you are here, typing. Go on and show us how little you care about this issue.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ's racist policy that your tax dollars is defending cut the Asian entry by half

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/04/fairfax-co-schools-defends-admissions-policy-at-thomas-jefferson-hs/

“By half”? Guess you’re not so good with numbers?

Recap of admission #s from 2024 to 2025:
+64 overall

+50 female
+14 male

+46 hispanic +242%
+37 white +26%
+29 black +245%
+8 other/mixed +26%
-56 asian -26%

+142 from underrepresented MSs
-36 private school

And despite that TJ is still over 50% Asian right?

Yup. Headline: Group That Is Over-Represented Threefold Thinks It’s Racist That They’re No Longer Over-Represented Four-Fold

+1 And something must be done about this!

Keep going. This "racial balancing" motivation is what is being questioned by the court. You can have a great outcome but if the process to get there is not constitutional then it does not matter. But keep going. You guys dont care how unfair/unconstitutional a process is as long as it gets your goals.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that the approach sucked but the outcome is a step in the right direction.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that ends do not justify the means in any modern democracy. If that does not sink in from a constitutional perspective, let me give you something you can relate to.

Even if you catch a murderer red-handed and dont follow due process like reading the Miranda rights, you will not get the conviction.

There are many on this forum who are on board with increasing diversity at TJ but you have to do it the right way.

What is the right way to increase diversity at TJ?

Define diversity - if you do it by skin color, you've already lost the argument. Prove that TJ is not diverse; again if you come up with a race chart, you've already lost.

And attituteds like that are why the school is going to end up closed or as an academy

In other words, you are either unable to or unwilling to even define diversity except in a racist way, and would rather that a school close down than have it not be involved in implementing your desired racist policies.

You've solved the problems. No black kids at a school isn't an issue if mentioning that there are no black kids at the school is racist. Congratulations.

That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving.

Cool, now get the Board and, more importantly, local voters to agree. Your solution really is genius, I think you should start publicizing it widely- no racism because pointing out racism is in itself racist

Again, that's not what I said. Your lack of reading comprehension is at an impressive level.

Or maybe views like "That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving." will go over better in Alabama.

So first you mischaracterize what I said, and when challenged, you try to assail what I said by inferring that it is somehow unwholesome through a worthless innuendo. Your thoughts are shallow and your character bankrupt.

What you said amounts to racist garbage

+1000. Do you think the Coalition-aligned folks simply don't understand their racism or that they understand it and therefore are using the Russian "accusation as confession" tactic?

One side here is defending a policy that's been found to be racist in federal court.

It's also been found to be not racist by a higher federal court.

False, there is only a stay pending appeal. The stay is issued based on procedural issues, not the underlying case.

Not if you read the concurring opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ's racist policy that your tax dollars is defending cut the Asian entry by half

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/04/fairfax-co-schools-defends-admissions-policy-at-thomas-jefferson-hs/

“By half”? Guess you’re not so good with numbers?

Recap of admission #s from 2024 to 2025:
+64 overall

+50 female
+14 male

+46 hispanic +242%
+37 white +26%
+29 black +245%
+8 other/mixed +26%
-56 asian -26%

+142 from underrepresented MSs
-36 private school

And despite that TJ is still over 50% Asian right?

Yup. Headline: Group That Is Over-Represented Threefold Thinks It’s Racist That They’re No Longer Over-Represented Four-Fold

+1 And something must be done about this!

Keep going. This "racial balancing" motivation is what is being questioned by the court. You can have a great outcome but if the process to get there is not constitutional then it does not matter. But keep going. You guys dont care how unfair/unconstitutional a process is as long as it gets your goals.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that the approach sucked but the outcome is a step in the right direction.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that ends do not justify the means in any modern democracy. If that does not sink in from a constitutional perspective, let me give you something you can relate to.

Even if you catch a murderer red-handed and dont follow due process like reading the Miranda rights, you will not get the conviction.

There are many on this forum who are on board with increasing diversity at TJ but you have to do it the right way.

What is the right way to increase diversity at TJ?

Define diversity - if you do it by skin color, you've already lost the argument. Prove that TJ is not diverse; again if you come up with a race chart, you've already lost.

And attituteds like that are why the school is going to end up closed or as an academy

In other words, you are either unable to or unwilling to even define diversity except in a racist way, and would rather that a school close down than have it not be involved in implementing your desired racist policies.

You've solved the problems. No black kids at a school isn't an issue if mentioning that there are no black kids at the school is racist. Congratulations.

That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving.

Cool, now get the Board and, more importantly, local voters to agree. Your solution really is genius, I think you should start publicizing it widely- no racism because pointing out racism is in itself racist

Again, that's not what I said. Your lack of reading comprehension is at an impressive level.

Or maybe views like "That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving." will go over better in Alabama.

So first you mischaracterize what I said, and when challenged, you try to assail what I said by inferring that it is somehow unwholesome through a worthless innuendo. Your thoughts are shallow and your character bankrupt.

What you said amounts to racist garbage

+1000. Do you think the Coalition-aligned folks simply don't understand their racism or that they understand it and therefore are using the Russian "accusation as confession" tactic?

One side here is defending a policy that's been found to be racist in federal court.

and the other is defending a system that has historically excluded black, hispanic, and poor students

Exactly.

Being a racist for noble reasons is still being a racist.

Thinking that it’s reasonable for a public school to somewhat reflect the community is not racist.

Reflect the community, how? By skin color? That's a race quota system and is categorically prohibited by the constitution.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ's racist policy that your tax dollars is defending cut the Asian entry by half

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/04/fairfax-co-schools-defends-admissions-policy-at-thomas-jefferson-hs/

“By half”? Guess you’re not so good with numbers?

Recap of admission #s from 2024 to 2025:
+64 overall

+50 female
+14 male

+46 hispanic +242%
+37 white +26%
+29 black +245%
+8 other/mixed +26%
-56 asian -26%

+142 from underrepresented MSs
-36 private school

And despite that TJ is still over 50% Asian right?

Yup. Headline: Group That Is Over-Represented Threefold Thinks It’s Racist That They’re No Longer Over-Represented Four-Fold

+1 And something must be done about this!

Keep going. This "racial balancing" motivation is what is being questioned by the court. You can have a great outcome but if the process to get there is not constitutional then it does not matter. But keep going. You guys dont care how unfair/unconstitutional a process is as long as it gets your goals.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that the approach sucked but the outcome is a step in the right direction.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that ends do not justify the means in any modern democracy. If that does not sink in from a constitutional perspective, let me give you something you can relate to.

Even if you catch a murderer red-handed and dont follow due process like reading the Miranda rights, you will not get the conviction.

There are many on this forum who are on board with increasing diversity at TJ but you have to do it the right way.

What is the right way to increase diversity at TJ?

Define diversity - if you do it by skin color, you've already lost the argument. Prove that TJ is not diverse; again if you come up with a race chart, you've already lost.

And attituteds like that are why the school is going to end up closed or as an academy

In other words, you are either unable to or unwilling to even define diversity except in a racist way, and would rather that a school close down than have it not be involved in implementing your desired racist policies.

You've solved the problems. No black kids at a school isn't an issue if mentioning that there are no black kids at the school is racist. Congratulations.

That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving.

Cool, now get the Board and, more importantly, local voters to agree. Your solution really is genius, I think you should start publicizing it widely- no racism because pointing out racism is in itself racist

Again, that's not what I said. Your lack of reading comprehension is at an impressive level.

Or maybe views like "That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving." will go over better in Alabama.

So first you mischaracterize what I said, and when challenged, you try to assail what I said by inferring that it is somehow unwholesome through a worthless innuendo. Your thoughts are shallow and your character bankrupt.

What you said amounts to racist garbage

+1000. Do you think the Coalition-aligned folks simply don't understand their racism or that they understand it and therefore are using the Russian "accusation as confession" tactic?

One side here is defending a policy that's been found to be racist in federal court.

and the other is defending a system that has historically excluded black, hispanic, and poor students

And you’re both fighting about who attends one elitist school that is attended by no more than 3% of FCPS high school students and chews up a wildly disproportionate amount of FCPS’s time. So none of you exactly like come out smelling like roses.

Again - it is only chewing up a wildly disproportionate amount of FCPS' time because you have one very small group that believes that it's a racist travesty that they're only over-represented threefold rather than fourfold.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ's racist policy that your tax dollars is defending cut the Asian entry by half

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/04/fairfax-co-schools-defends-admissions-policy-at-thomas-jefferson-hs/

“By half”? Guess you’re not so good with numbers?

Recap of admission #s from 2024 to 2025:
+64 overall

+50 female
+14 male

+46 hispanic +242%
+37 white +26%
+29 black +245%
+8 other/mixed +26%
-56 asian -26%

+142 from underrepresented MSs
-36 private school

And despite that TJ is still over 50% Asian right?

Yup. Headline: Group That Is Over-Represented Threefold Thinks It’s Racist That They’re No Longer Over-Represented Four-Fold

+1 And something must be done about this!

Keep going. This "racial balancing" motivation is what is being questioned by the court. You can have a great outcome but if the process to get there is not constitutional then it does not matter. But keep going. You guys dont care how unfair/unconstitutional a process is as long as it gets your goals.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that the approach sucked but the outcome is a step in the right direction.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that ends do not justify the means in any modern democracy. If that does not sink in from a constitutional perspective, let me give you something you can relate to.

Even if you catch a murderer red-handed and dont follow due process like reading the Miranda rights, you will not get the conviction.

There are many on this forum who are on board with increasing diversity at TJ but you have to do it the right way.

What is the right way to increase diversity at TJ?

Define diversity - if you do it by skin color, you've already lost the argument. Prove that TJ is not diverse; again if you come up with a race chart, you've already lost.

And attituteds like that are why the school is going to end up closed or as an academy

In other words, you are either unable to or unwilling to even define diversity except in a racist way, and would rather that a school close down than have it not be involved in implementing your desired racist policies.

You've solved the problems. No black kids at a school isn't an issue if mentioning that there are no black kids at the school is racist. Congratulations.

That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving.

Cool, now get the Board and, more importantly, local voters to agree. Your solution really is genius, I think you should start publicizing it widely- no racism because pointing out racism is in itself racist

Again, that's not what I said. Your lack of reading comprehension is at an impressive level.

Or maybe views like "That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving." will go over better in Alabama.

So first you mischaracterize what I said, and when challenged, you try to assail what I said by inferring that it is somehow unwholesome through a worthless innuendo. Your thoughts are shallow and your character bankrupt.

What you said amounts to racist garbage

+1000. Do you think the Coalition-aligned folks simply don't understand their racism or that they understand it and therefore are using the Russian "accusation as confession" tactic?

One side here is defending a policy that's been found to be racist in federal court.

It's also been found to be not racist by a higher federal court.

False, there is only a stay pending appeal. The stay is issued based on procedural issues, not the underlying case.

Not if you read the concurring opinion.

Oh lord. Yea, go read the opinion. It only criticizes the standards and procedures used by Hilton. It does not discuss the merits of the underlying case because the case has not been argued in the appeals court yet.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ's racist policy that your tax dollars is defending cut the Asian entry by half

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/04/fairfax-co-schools-defends-admissions-policy-at-thomas-jefferson-hs/

“By half”? Guess you’re not so good with numbers?

Recap of admission #s from 2024 to 2025:
+64 overall

+50 female
+14 male

+46 hispanic +242%
+37 white +26%
+29 black +245%
+8 other/mixed +26%
-56 asian -26%

+142 from underrepresented MSs
-36 private school

And despite that TJ is still over 50% Asian right?

Yup. Headline: Group That Is Over-Represented Threefold Thinks It’s Racist That They’re No Longer Over-Represented Four-Fold

+1 And something must be done about this!

Keep going. This "racial balancing" motivation is what is being questioned by the court. You can have a great outcome but if the process to get there is not constitutional then it does not matter. But keep going. You guys dont care how unfair/unconstitutional a process is as long as it gets your goals.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that the approach sucked but the outcome is a step in the right direction.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that ends do not justify the means in any modern democracy. If that does not sink in from a constitutional perspective, let me give you something you can relate to.

Even if you catch a murderer red-handed and dont follow due process like reading the Miranda rights, you will not get the conviction.

There are many on this forum who are on board with increasing diversity at TJ but you have to do it the right way.

What is the right way to increase diversity at TJ?

Define diversity - if you do it by skin color, you've already lost the argument. Prove that TJ is not diverse; again if you come up with a race chart, you've already lost.

And attituteds like that are why the school is going to end up closed or as an academy

In other words, you are either unable to or unwilling to even define diversity except in a racist way, and would rather that a school close down than have it not be involved in implementing your desired racist policies.

You've solved the problems. No black kids at a school isn't an issue if mentioning that there are no black kids at the school is racist. Congratulations.

That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving.

Cool, now get the Board and, more importantly, local voters to agree. Your solution really is genius, I think you should start publicizing it widely- no racism because pointing out racism is in itself racist

Again, that's not what I said. Your lack of reading comprehension is at an impressive level.

Or maybe views like "That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving." will go over better in Alabama.

So first you mischaracterize what I said, and when challenged, you try to assail what I said by inferring that it is somehow unwholesome through a worthless innuendo. Your thoughts are shallow and your character bankrupt.

What you said amounts to racist garbage

+1000. Do you think the Coalition-aligned folks simply don't understand their racism or that they understand it and therefore are using the Russian "accusation as confession" tactic?

One side here is defending a policy that's been found to be racist in federal court.

It's also been found to be not racist by a higher federal court.

False, there is only a stay pending appeal. The stay is issued based on procedural issues, not the underlying case.

Not if you read the concurring opinion.

Oh lord. Yea, go read the opinion. It only criticizes the standards and procedures used by Hilton. It does not discuss the merits of the underlying case because the case has not been argued in the appeals court yet.

Perhaps I should rephrase from "found to be not racist" to "found that the arguments that it is racist are largely specious and are unlikely to hold up upon review."

[Anonymous]

Can’t someone launch a legal challenge against the old TJ admission process on the grounds of its long established factual exclusion of low income, Black and Hispanic kids from a tax payer funded public school?

That way they are back to square one and might focus resources on the impoverished elementary and middle schools and get those kids up to the playing field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can’t someone launch a legal challenge against the old TJ admission process on the grounds of its long established factual exclusion of low income, Black and Hispanic kids from a tax payer funded public school?

That way they are back to square one and might focus resources on the impoverished elementary and middle schools and get those kids up to the playing field.

1) It's a lot harder to do that when you don't have a core group of parents with too much time on their hands - who are ALREADY at TJ in many cases - and money to burn on legal representation.

2) The minute you start actually focusing taxpayer dollars on those less-resources kids, you're going to have the Board of Supervisors get throttled in the elections by the very people who called for that action as an alternative to solving the problematic way in which we evaluate students for candidacy for TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can’t someone launch a legal challenge against the old TJ admission process on the grounds of its long established factual exclusion of low income, Black and Hispanic kids from a tax payer funded public school?

That way they are back to square one and might focus resources on the impoverished elementary and middle schools and get those kids up to the playing field.

I think you should not get started on what is tax payer funded.

Perhaps someone can do an analysis of how much FCPS funding comes from Dranesville district and what they get in return:

- School-wise caps on admission to the county magnet
- Continued neglect of McLean High School where overcrowding is well established


It is good to ask what your taxes can do for you but also good to see where your taxes come from.

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You mean Rich people are selfish, self serving opportunity hoggers ? I am shocked !

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Anonymous wrote:TJ's racist policy that your tax dollars is defending cut the Asian entry by half

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/04/fairfax-co-schools-defends-admissions-policy-at-thomas-jefferson-hs/

“By half”? Guess you’re not so good with numbers?

Recap of admission #s from 2024 to 2025:
+64 overall

+50 female
+14 male

+46 hispanic +242%
+37 white +26%
+29 black +245%
+8 other/mixed +26%
-56 asian -26%

+142 from underrepresented MSs
-36 private school

And despite that TJ is still over 50% Asian right?

Yup. Headline: Group That Is Over-Represented Threefold Thinks It’s Racist That They’re No Longer Over-Represented Four-Fold

+1 And something must be done about this!

Keep going. This "racial balancing" motivation is what is being questioned by the court. You can have a great outcome but if the process to get there is not constitutional then it does not matter. But keep going. You guys dont care how unfair/unconstitutional a process is as long as it gets your goals.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that the approach sucked but the outcome is a step in the right direction.

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that ends do not justify the means in any modern democracy. If that does not sink in from a constitutional perspective, let me give you something you can relate to.

Even if you catch a murderer red-handed and dont follow due process like reading the Miranda rights, you will not get the conviction.

There are many on this forum who are on board with increasing diversity at TJ but you have to do it the right way.

What is the right way to increase diversity at TJ?

Define diversity - if you do it by skin color, you've already lost the argument. Prove that TJ is not diverse; again if you come up with a race chart, you've already lost.

And attituteds like that are why the school is going to end up closed or as an academy

In other words, you are either unable to or unwilling to even define diversity except in a racist way, and would rather that a school close down than have it not be involved in implementing your desired racist policies.

You've solved the problems. No black kids at a school isn't an issue if mentioning that there are no black kids at the school is racist. Congratulations.

That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving.

Cool, now get the Board and, more importantly, local voters to agree. Your solution really is genius, I think you should start publicizing it widely- no racism because pointing out racism is in itself racist

Again, that's not what I said. Your lack of reading comprehension is at an impressive level.

Or maybe views like "That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving." will go over better in Alabama.

So first you mischaracterize what I said, and when challenged, you try to assail what I said by inferring that it is somehow unwholesome through a worthless innuendo. Your thoughts are shallow and your character bankrupt.

What you said amounts to racist garbage

+1000. Do you think the Coalition-aligned folks simply don't understand their racism or that they understand it and therefore are using the Russian "accusation as confession" tactic?

One side here is defending a policy that's been found to be racist in federal court.

and the other is defending a system that has historically excluded black, hispanic, and poor students

And you’re both fighting about who attends one elitist school that is attended by no more than 3% of FCPS high school students and chews up a wildly disproportionate amount of FCPS’s time. So none of you exactly like come out smelling like roses.

Again - it is only chewing up a wildly disproportionate amount of FCPS' time because you have one very small group that believes that it's a racist travesty that they're only over-represented threefold rather than fourfold.

Thankfully the constitution protects the rights oif every individual whether they are 1% or 3% - in majority or not. Else we will have this attitude of why do we bother with the 3% who are complaining. they are only 3%. Let us, the 97% ride roughshod over them. In fact, the school board was counting on the minority not having a voice. They miscalculated.

[Anonymous]

And what about the low income and Black and Hispanic kids who never had a seat and the table? Shouldn’t they also have their rights met?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And what about the low income and Black and Hispanic kids who never had a seat and the table? Shouldn’t they also have their rights met?

Absolutely. That should not even be a question. You just have to do so by constitutionally valid means.

You can do right by everyone- process-wise - even if the outcome will not be to everyone’s liking.

[Anonymous]

Only if that process is immune to systemic racial and socio economic issues like intelligent poor children getting picked for advanced classes. That middle class parents can’t buy their way in or join the PTA to bend choices to their kids favour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You mean Rich people are selfish, self serving opportunity hoggers ? I am shocked !

Yup. Some wealthy parents think they are entitled to TJ.