Meghan and Prince Harry are moving to the U.S./Canada - OFFICIAL

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Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating (and telling) that most people are harping much more on Meghan's family dysfunction, and not Harry's. Even with what we DO know (and no doubt there are still many, many family secrets), Harry's seems far more filled with issues than Meghan's.

Perhaps these two found comfort in each other, and relate to each other. Good for them for wanting to distance themselves from the drama and change things going forward.

yes!! GREAT for them! But then give back the titles, the IG handle, the website, the things paid for by the Duchy (pretty much everything) and go on your way.
No one is saying they shouldn't leave. It is more like, you want leave? Ok. Leave the perks at the door. Thanks!

Read their Funding post. They are giving up all the financial perks with the exception of continuing to reside in Frogmore Cottage, if the Queen allows, while they are in the U.K. They are splitting their time, not leaving completely, so that they can still do things to support the Queen and continue to work with their patronages. As such, it appropriate they keep their titles, but they are "taking" anything else anymore.

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't appreciate and look forward to the financial opportunities that will open to them with this move, but it sounds like they are really motivated by a desire to do more substantive work in terms of philanthropy and such. One of the articles linked earlier by a Meghan critic said the couple seemed bored by the ceremonial stuff like ribbon cuttings. Both Meghan and Harry have pretty well developed world views and a strong work ethic. I don't think they like having to be so apolitical about everything. Their IG post makes it sound like they are going to throw themselves into more serious work than the PR and ceremonial stuff that necessarily takes up so much of their official royal duties.

Except they are not. They are a joke; to them financial independence means giving up 5% of the funding they are given. The other 95% is from their father; and that estate is tied to him being the Prince of Wales. Frogmore Cottage was renovated with taxpayer money, so they should be paying that back. Even Harry's trust is his mother's money, and SHE got that from her divorce settlement from Charles.

They are not financially independent whatsoever and have no plans of being so.

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Anonymous wrote:If the Sussexes had asked first they would most likely have been denied permission. This way they get to negotiate.

Yep. It's negotiation strategy.

You think the Queen negotiates? Please.

But her top aide and loyal servant for decades, Lord Christopher Geidt, was MI-6. I would not want to mess with him. He’s had his eyes on the Harkles for a looong time.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1104334/meghan-markle-news-royal-split-prince-harry-the-queen-christopher-geidt/amp

I don't understand this point. What exactly is Lord Christopher Geidt going to do to them?

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe people really think MM and Harry’s “star” will “fade” in the US. Y’all nuts. Americans love royalty, do not really understand the Prince vs Duke thing, do not really care about line of succession, and love MM. Have you guys seen mainstream American media twitter about this? They are overcome with giddiness about MM coming closer to home.

That must be why it all worked out so well for Fergie when she moved across the pond to become a shill for Weight Watchers. Oh wait...

Do you even remember the 90s?? She wasn’t even a royal anymore and she was constantly in the American press, on talk shows, on tabloids... she was huge!

She was also broke. And none of that lasted.

And the drastic transition turned her into a hot mess.

Diana received $18 million in cash from her divorce settlement, free access to her entire apartment and offices in Kensington Palace, drivers/chauffeurs/household staff when in residence in the UK, and had a billionaire for a boyfriend.

If that's broke...where do I sign up?

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Anonymous wrote:Narcissistic personality disorder. She cuts everyone from her life that she can’t control and could not stand the sun did not shine on her every second of everyday. It was telling she only invited only one family member to the wedding but had tons of celebs. When I saw her mother was the only one at the wedding the problem was obviously MM. Did not think she would act so fast and cut out the Royals next. It just shows how far at the end of the disorder scale she is. If you have ever seem the damage someone like this does to families you will understand. Most families have issues but someone like MM is a true wolf in sheep’s clothing. These people destroy families. She is playing the victim but she is the perp.

Your own baggage is skewing your perception.

NP here and disagree. She is spot on. No narcs in my immediate family.

+1 I don’t see how anyone can believe that everyone else in Meghan’s entire life has always been the problem (her family, her old friends, her exes, her in-laws, etc) and she’s just the poor victim. What do they say about people who always have a problem with everyone else? At some point you have to ask who is the common denominator...

+2.

She's the ultimate Drama Queen.

It's hard to truly know. When you are raised in a dysfunctional family with no role models for healthy relationships, it is hard to make future relationships work. Her family seemed pretty crazy. The royals are known to be pretty crazy. It's hard to break out of dysfunction. She may be part of the problem due in part to her upbringing, but I doubt she is the entire problem. People just looooove a good scapegoat though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Sussexes had asked first they would most likely have been denied permission. This way they get to negotiate.

Yep. It's negotiation strategy.

You think the Queen negotiates? Please.

But her top aide and loyal servant for decades, Lord Christopher Geidt, was MI-6. I would not want to mess with him. He’s had his eyes on the Harkles for a looong time.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1104334/meghan-markle-news-royal-split-prince-harry-the-queen-christopher-geidt/amp

He will advise the Queen on how to handle this mess. Meghan thinks she beat the Crown. No way do they keep they titles.

Oh, and BTW, new Sussex Royal website was designed by The Tig website designers. What a merching coincidence!
I don't understand this point. What exactly is Lord Christopher Geidt going to do to them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Sussexes had asked first they would most likely have been denied permission. This way they get to negotiate.

Yep. It's negotiation strategy.

You think the Queen negotiates? Please.

But her top aide and loyal servant for decades, Lord Christopher Geidt, was MI-6. I would not want to mess with him. He’s had his eyes on the Harkles for a looong time.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1104334/meghan-markle-news-royal-split-prince-harry-the-queen-christopher-geidt/amp

Lord Geidt was forced out in a coup by Andrew and Charles 3 years ago...so.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1225067/royal-news-prince-charles-queen-elizabeth-ii-forced-out-sir-christopher-geidt-spt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe people really think MM and Harry’s “star” will “fade” in the US. Y’all nuts. Americans love royalty, do not really understand the Prince vs Duke thing, do not really care about line of succession, and love MM. Have you guys seen mainstream American media twitter about this? They are overcome with giddiness about MM coming closer to home.

That must be why it all worked out so well for Fergie when she moved across the pond to become a shill for Weight Watchers. Oh wait...

Do you even remember the 90s?? She wasn’t even a royal anymore and she was constantly in the American press, on talk shows, on tabloids... she was huge!

She was also broke. And none of that lasted.

And the drastic transition turned her into a hot mess.

Diana received $18 million in cash from her divorce settlement, free access to her entire apartment and offices in Kensington Palace, drivers/chauffeurs/household staff when in residence in the UK, and had a billionaire for a boyfriend.

If that's broke...where do I sign up?

Huh?
Fergie is not Diana.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Sussexes had asked first they would most likely have been denied permission. This way they get to negotiate.

Yep. It's negotiation strategy.

You think the Queen negotiates? Please.

But her top aide and loyal servant for decades, Lord Christopher Geidt, was MI-6. I would not want to mess with him. He’s had his eyes on the Harkles for a looong time.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1104334/meghan-markle-news-royal-split-prince-harry-the-queen-christopher-geidt/amp

Yea, but brought back in last year to keep an eye on the Harkles.
Lord Geidt was forced out in a coup by Andrew and Charles 3 years ago...so.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1225067/royal-news-prince-charles-queen-elizabeth-ii-forced-out-sir-christopher-geidt-spt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Sussexes had asked first they would most likely have been denied permission. This way they get to negotiate.

Yep. It's negotiation strategy.

You think the Queen negotiates? Please.

But her top aide and loyal servant for decades, Lord Christopher Geidt, was MI-6. I would not want to mess with him. He’s had his eyes on the Harkles for a looong time.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1104334/meghan-markle-news-royal-split-prince-harry-the-queen-christopher-geidt/amp

Yea, but brought back in last year to keep an eye on the Harkles.
Lord Geidt was forced out in a coup by Andrew and Charles 3 years ago...so.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1225067/royal-news-prince-charles-queen-elizabeth-ii-forced-out-sir-christopher-geidt-spt

The Queen brought him back last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How will two unemployed people become Canadian citizens

Do you need to be a citizen for say, to own a summer house, in the Canadian Rockies?

If so, MM would hold 3 passports - US, UK, and Canada? Of hate to be her tax accountant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe people really think MM and Harry’s “star” will “fade” in the US. Y’all nuts. Americans love royalty, do not really understand the Prince vs Duke thing, do not really care about line of succession, and love MM. Have you guys seen mainstream American media twitter about this? They are overcome with giddiness about MM coming closer to home.

That must be why it all worked out so well for Fergie when she moved across the pond to become a shill for Weight Watchers. Oh wait...

Do you even remember the 90s?? She wasn’t even a royal anymore and she was constantly in the American press, on talk shows, on tabloids... she was huge!

She was also broke. And none of that lasted.

And the drastic transition turned her into a hot mess.

Diana received $18 million in cash from her divorce settlement, free access to her entire apartment and offices in Kensington Palace, drivers/chauffeurs/household staff when in residence in the UK, and had a billionaire for a boyfriend.

If that's broke...where do I sign up?

Huh?
Fergie is not Diana.

Oh, I'm sorry I thought you were talking about Diana. Yeah, Fergie got the shaft. Only a $1 million as a divorce settlement, no housing, and disgraced because of the toe-sucking incident. She also had no jobs prior to joining the family and no relevant experience.

A joke.

[Anonymous]

This thread has officially gone too far and Jeff should shut it down. Are you really advocating for some "secret agent" type to essentially take out two members of the royal family? You are insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Sussexes had asked first they would most likely have been denied permission. This way they get to negotiate.

Yep. It's negotiation strategy.

You think the Queen negotiates? Please.

But her top aide and loyal servant for decades, Lord Christopher Geidt, was MI-6. I would not want to mess with him. He’s had his eyes on the Harkles for a looong time.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1104334/meghan-markle-news-royal-split-prince-harry-the-queen-christopher-geidt/amp

Yea, but brought back in last year to keep an eye on the Harkles.
Lord Geidt was forced out in a coup by Andrew and Charles 3 years ago...so.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1225067/royal-news-prince-charles-queen-elizabeth-ii-forced-out-sir-christopher-geidt-spt

The Queen brought him back last year.

Wait - WHAT? That must have gone over like a lead balloon with Charles/Andrew.

Why didn't he stop that ridiculous pedophile interview from airing on national television?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating (and telling) that most people are harping much more on Meghan's family dysfunction, and not Harry's. Even with what we DO know (and no doubt there are still many, many family secrets), Harry's seems far more filled with issues than Meghan's.

Perhaps these two found comfort in each other, and relate to each other. Good for them for wanting to distance themselves from the drama and change things going forward.

yes!! GREAT for them! But then give back the titles, the IG handle, the website, the things paid for by the Duchy (pretty much everything) and go on your way.
No one is saying they shouldn't leave. It is more like, you want leave? Ok. Leave the perks at the door. Thanks!

Read their Funding post. They are giving up all the financial perks with the exception of continuing to reside in Frogmore Cottage, if the Queen allows, while they are in the U.K. They are splitting their time, not leaving completely, so that they can still do things to support the Queen and continue to work with their patronages. As such, it appropriate they keep their titles, but they are "taking" anything else anymore.

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't appreciate and look forward to the financial opportunities that will open to them with this move, but it sounds like they are really motivated by a desire to do more substantive work in terms of philanthropy and such. One of the articles linked earlier by a Meghan critic said the couple seemed bored by the ceremonial stuff like ribbon cuttings. Both Meghan and Harry have pretty well developed world views and a strong work ethic. I don't think they like having to be so apolitical about everything. Their IG post makes it sound like they are going to throw themselves into more serious work than the PR and ceremonial stuff that necessarily takes up so much of their official royal duties.

Except they are not. They are a joke; to them financial independence means giving up 5% of the funding they are given. The other 95% is from their father; and that estate is tied to him being the Prince of Wales. Frogmore Cottage was renovated with taxpayer money, so they should be paying that back. Even Harry's trust is his mother's money, and SHE got that from her divorce settlement from Charles.

They are not financially independent whatsoever and have no plans of being so.

If that's what they want, then they need to give up their royal titles AND the funding, including the 95% of the funding from their father they have not given up. This is money used by Charles to support his royal duties; I imagine neither Charles or the British public will appreciate those two clowns to using that money to be celebrities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Sussexes had asked first they would most likely have been denied permission. This way they get to negotiate.

Yep. It's negotiation strategy.

You think the Queen negotiates? Please.

But her top aide and loyal servant for decades, Lord Christopher Geidt, was MI-6. I would not want to mess with him. He’s had his eyes on the Harkles for a looong time.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1104334/meghan-markle-news-royal-split-prince-harry-the-queen-christopher-geidt/amp

Yea, but brought back in last year to keep an eye on the Harkles.
Lord Geidt was forced out in a coup by Andrew and Charles 3 years ago...so.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1225067/royal-news-prince-charles-queen-elizabeth-ii-forced-out-sir-christopher-geidt-spt

The Queen brought him back last year.

Wait - WHAT? That must have gone over like a lead balloon with Charles/Andrew.

Why didn't he stop that ridiculous pedophile interview from airing on national television?

According to that article from Jan 7th 2020 - he is not in fact back. So where's the source?

Many royal watchers have noted that Geidt would have been a useful trusted aide at the Queen’s side to navigate the recent fall-out from Prince Andrew’s disastrous Newsnight interview.

It still remains unclear whether Her Majesty knew about the Duke of York’s use of Buckingham Place to film the much-criticised interview with Emily Maitlis, and indeed whether the Queen gave her approval for the decision at all.

Speaking to Express.co.uk, royal expert Richard Fitzwilliams commented: “With the Duke of Edinburgh standing down in 2017 and the Queen having lost her Private Secretary Sir Christopher (now Lord Geidt) in the same year, the Queen had few close aides and could not have known what was to happen when access was granted for the interview to take place at the Palace.

“It has been an acknowledged train wreck of Krakatoan proportions.