Are you just now realizing that these posters are utter imbeciles? |
At the undergraduate level, I don't see any compelling reason to separate Penn and Chicago from Duke and Northwestern. |
Tufts deserves to be on this list |
Let’s say it’s in. Now what? |
Love this, and the fact that their imbecility is incongruously demonstrated by a discussion of the relative merits of various institutes of higher learning. |
| Top 30 is good. Top 50 is decent. Top 100 will get you an education. By being ranked in the 28-50 range, Tufts is “hardly even good,” yes. |
I think what the temple poster is trying to say is any school that accepted your kid is “elite.” What else could it be? Love the school that that loves your kid. |
DP. Top 25 take about 1% of all four-year students. In most circumstances, the 99th percentile is considered “outstanding,” not “good”. |
When you factor in the kids, mostly legacies, who are not necessarily as "smart" as the naturally genius kids, then I would not assume that the 1% is fully equated with the list of top 25 or whatever is being called "elite" - fact is there are a variety of reasons kids will go to any school, cost, location, setting, etc. Yes, these schools are very hard to gain entry, but mostly because they simply don't take that many kids, there are only so many seats or dorm slots. But that doesn't mean there aren't a ton of brilliant to very smart/hard working kids any most of the other schools across the country. |
Tufts is not top 25 |
| Confused how Tufts, a school that is barely in the top 5 of schools in its own metro area, made its way into a conversation about elite schools. |
I would be more liberal and say that the Top 100 is good and the Top 30 in the very good category. Tufts is "hardly even very good" which sounds obnoxious and unbecoming. Nevertheless, Tufts is not elite by any metric. |
No one is claiming it is. We are back on topic now. |
+1. Penn and Chicago are slightly better research universities, but for undergrad, there's no need to separate them. Undergraduate Elites: Harvard Stanford MIT Yale Princeton Columbia Caltech Penn Chicago Duke Northwestern Dartmouth Brown Cornell JHU Berkeley Amherst Williams Swathmore Pomona Harvey Mudd Overall Elites: Harvard Stanford MIT Yale Columbia Princeton Penn Chicago Berkeley Caltech Duke Northwestern Cornell JHU |
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I think layman elite is probably just HYPSM.
Most of the nation has no idea what Hopkins, UChicago, Brown even are, let alone how insanely difficult it is to get into Duke, Dartmouth, Cornell. |