U of St Andrews - Admissions per State

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places.

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

As I stated on the other thread, my son who is now at Oxford was rejected by St Andrews….with an A*A*A*. You clearly have an agenda here. Your disdain for St Andrews, Durham is laughable if not pitiful. So now lets call anyone who attends Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc Ivy Rejects…..please. Have some common sense.

What happens in the US is irrelevant. I was explaining to you what the reputation is in the UK.

Sure sweetie. You, an american, are explaining to me, an English person who lives south of London what the reputation of St Andrews is. Please go away.

Sweetie yourself. Who do you think you are, Joanna Lumley? I have no idea where you got the idea that I am American. I am 100 percent British. Went to a comprehensive, took GCSEs and A-levels, applied through UCAS, watched Blue Peter, Play School and Grange Hill, not to mention Neighbours and Eastenders, celebrated my 18th in sixth form by going to the pub at lunch, know how to queue, regularly grumble about the weather, apologise unnecessarily and am currently drinking a cup of tea (and had marmite on toast for breakfast).

Clearly you are (allegedly) from further south than me and clearly you are in wealthy private school circles disconnected from most of the population who attend state schools but regardless I think I have pretty good standing to explain to the Americans here how universities are viewed in the UK, by real people.

How laymen perceive St Andrews doesn’t matter. What matters most is how higher academic institutions (grad schools) and competitive firms (Consulting, Banking, Law, Tech, etc) perceive St Andrews. Right now, St Andrews is highly recognized in those circles and rising.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places.

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

As I stated on the other thread, my son who is now at Oxford was rejected by St Andrews….with an A*A*A*. You clearly have an agenda here. Your disdain for St Andrews, Durham is laughable if not pitiful. So now lets call anyone who attends Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc Ivy Rejects…..please. Have some common sense.

What happens in the US is irrelevant. I was explaining to you what the reputation is in the UK.

Sure sweetie. You, an american, are explaining to me, an English person who lives south of London what the reputation of St Andrews is. Please go away.

Sweetie yourself. Who do you think you are, Joanna Lumley? I have no idea where you got the idea that I am American. I am 100 percent British. Went to a comprehensive, took GCSEs and A-levels, applied through UCAS, watched Blue Peter, Play School and Grange Hill, not to mention Neighbours and Eastenders, celebrated my 18th in sixth form by going to the pub at lunch, know how to queue, regularly grumble about the weather, apologise unnecessarily and am currently drinking a cup of tea (and had marmite on toast for breakfast).

Clearly you are (allegedly) from further south than me and clearly you are in wealthy private school circles disconnected from most of the population who attend state schools but regardless I think I have pretty good standing to explain to the Americans here how universities are viewed in the UK, by real people.

How laymen perceive St Andrews doesn’t matter. What matters most is how higher academic institutions (grad schools) and competitive firms (Consulting, Banking, Law, Tech, etc) perceive St Andrews. Right now, St Andrews is highly recognized in those circles and rising.

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Anonymous wrote:In the just released World Rankings St Andrews is ranked 23rd. 23rd in the UK, that is.

lol.

This has been addressed numerous times. St Andrews does poorly on worldwide rankings because it has a very small graduate school program and has less research as result. The worldwide rankings favor larger academic institutions. For example, Dartmouth and Brown do terribly on the World rankings, but Pittsburgh does well. St Andrews does crush it in the UK league tables.

lol…

Exact same with Notre Dame….ranking BEHIND St Andrews in the world rankings….and yet and top20 US uni..

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places.

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

As I stated on the other thread, my son who is now at Oxford was rejected by St Andrews….with an A*A*A*. You clearly have an agenda here. Your disdain for St Andrews, Durham is laughable if not pitiful. So now lets call anyone who attends Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc Ivy Rejects…..please. Have some common sense.

What happens in the US is irrelevant. I was explaining to you what the reputation is in the UK.

Sure sweetie. You, an american, are explaining to me, an English person who lives south of London what the reputation of St Andrews is. Please go away.

Sweetie yourself. Who do you think you are, Joanna Lumley? I have no idea where you got the idea that I am American. I am 100 percent British. Went to a comprehensive, took GCSEs and A-levels, applied through UCAS, watched Blue Peter, Play School and Grange Hill, not to mention Neighbours and Eastenders, celebrated my 18th in sixth form by going to the pub at lunch, know how to queue, regularly grumble about the weather, apologise unnecessarily and am currently drinking a cup of tea (and had marmite on toast for breakfast).

Clearly you are (allegedly) from further south than me and clearly you are in wealthy private school circles disconnected from most of the population who attend state schools but regardless I think I have pretty good standing to explain to the Americans here how universities are viewed in the UK, by real people.

With all due respect. I think for most Americans considering St Andrews, these families are much more like the Surrey poster than you. I dont mean to come across as an ass. But I think your background from state schools are not really the same profile of US families sending their kids to St Andrews.

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You dont have to be harsh. But Yes, I’m English and we live in Kent. Husband is American. We met at Oxford.

At our school, St Andrews is typically a 3rd or 4th option for the kids. Oxbridge allways #1. then depending on kid and programme, if they are ok being in London, they go either UCL/Imperial/LSE and then St Andrews, Durham, Exeter, Bristol. If they dont want London it is typically St Andrews and Durham as the 2nd UCAS options after Oxbridge.

Call it private school circles, or whatever you want, but the fact still remains, we consider St Andrews, Durham etc incredible unis and would be very happy if any of my kids attended either university.

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Same here. What schools in Kent?
Our niece was at Toonbridge. Lots of St Andrews kids…. You can check out last year destinations here:

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1730297458/tonbridgeschoolcouk/rof8i4q3emlpmtmjyxfb/2024Destinationsbycourse.pdf

My son was at Kings School Canterbury. He is at St Andrews as is several of his classmates.

For those Americans that do not know, these are two very good private schools SE of London in a very affluent area.

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Those are two very nice private schools in England. Thank you for the English private school context.

At the end of the day, if you are US student, you shouldn’t make this decision on a whim. You need to go visit. Spend a few days there. Talk to professors and administrators. They typically roll the red carpet for international students so take advantage of that. The alumni base in the US is growing and you should be able to find alumns in every major city in the US to talk to and give you more guidance on your decision.

This board is full of good info and some terrible negative ones. Don’t let any single variable here influence your decision. take it as an informative tool, but do your own research. Talk to Alums. They are the best source of info here.

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Anonymous wrote:Those are two very nice private schools in England. Thank you for the English private school context.

At the end of the day, if you are US student, you shouldn’t make this decision on a whim. You need to go visit. Spend a few days there. Talk to professors and administrators. They typically roll the red carpet for international students so take advantage of that. The alumni base in the US is growing and you should be able to find alumns in every major city in the US to talk to and give you more guidance on your decision.

This board is full of good info and some terrible negative ones. Don’t let any single variable here influence your decision. take it as an informative tool, but do your own research. Talk to Alums. They are the best source of info here.

Sound advice when considering any university.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places.

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

As I stated on the other thread, my son who is now at Oxford was rejected by St Andrews….with an A*A*A*. You clearly have an agenda here. Your disdain for St Andrews, Durham is laughable if not pitiful. So now lets call anyone who attends Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc Ivy Rejects…..please. Have some common sense.

What happens in the US is irrelevant. I was explaining to you what the reputation is in the UK.

Sure sweetie. You, an american, are explaining to me, an English person who lives south of London what the reputation of St Andrews is. Please go away.

Sweetie yourself. Who do you think you are, Joanna Lumley? I have no idea where you got the idea that I am American. I am 100 percent British. Went to a comprehensive, took GCSEs and A-levels, applied through UCAS, watched Blue Peter, Play School and Grange Hill, not to mention Neighbours and Eastenders, celebrated my 18th in sixth form by going to the pub at lunch, know how to queue, regularly grumble about the weather, apologise unnecessarily and am currently drinking a cup of tea (and had marmite on toast for breakfast).

Clearly you are (allegedly) from further south than me and clearly you are in wealthy private school circles disconnected from most of the population who attend state schools but regardless I think I have pretty good standing to explain to the Americans here how universities are viewed in the UK, by real people.

How laymen perceive St Andrews doesn’t matter. What matters most is how higher academic institutions (grad schools) and competitive firms (Consulting, Banking, Law, Tech, etc) perceive St Andrews. Right now, St Andrews is highly recognized in those circles and rising.

lol. keep deluding yourself. st. andrews is far from recognized in those circles

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places.

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

As I stated on the other thread, my son who is now at Oxford was rejected by St Andrews….with an A*A*A*. You clearly have an agenda here. Your disdain for St Andrews, Durham is laughable if not pitiful. So now lets call anyone who attends Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc Ivy Rejects…..please. Have some common sense.

What happens in the US is irrelevant. I was explaining to you what the reputation is in the UK.

Sure sweetie. You, an american, are explaining to me, an English person who lives south of London what the reputation of St Andrews is. Please go away.

Sweetie yourself. Who do you think you are, Joanna Lumley? I have no idea where you got the idea that I am American. I am 100 percent British. Went to a comprehensive, took GCSEs and A-levels, applied through UCAS, watched Blue Peter, Play School and Grange Hill, not to mention Neighbours and Eastenders, celebrated my 18th in sixth form by going to the pub at lunch, know how to queue, regularly grumble about the weather, apologise unnecessarily and am currently drinking a cup of tea (and had marmite on toast for breakfast).

Clearly you are (allegedly) from further south than me and clearly you are in wealthy private school circles disconnected from most of the population who attend state schools but regardless I think I have pretty good standing to explain to the Americans here how universities are viewed in the UK, by real people.

How laymen perceive St Andrews doesn’t matter. What matters most is how higher academic institutions (grad schools) and competitive firms (Consulting, Banking, Law, Tech, etc) perceive St Andrews. Right now, St Andrews is highly recognized in those circles and rising.

lol. keep deluding yourself. st. andrews is far from recognized in those circles

Hard for the old guard to accept they have a new rival.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places.

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

As I stated on the other thread, my son who is now at Oxford was rejected by St Andrews….with an A*A*A*. You clearly have an agenda here. Your disdain for St Andrews, Durham is laughable if not pitiful. So now lets call anyone who attends Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc Ivy Rejects…..please. Have some common sense.

What happens in the US is irrelevant. I was explaining to you what the reputation is in the UK.

Sure sweetie. You, an american, are explaining to me, an English person who lives south of London what the reputation of St Andrews is. Please go away.

Sweetie yourself. Who do you think you are, Joanna Lumley? I have no idea where you got the idea that I am American. I am 100 percent British. Went to a comprehensive, took GCSEs and A-levels, applied through UCAS, watched Blue Peter, Play School and Grange Hill, not to mention Neighbours and Eastenders, celebrated my 18th in sixth form by going to the pub at lunch, know how to queue, regularly grumble about the weather, apologise unnecessarily and am currently drinking a cup of tea (and had marmite on toast for breakfast).

Clearly you are (allegedly) from further south than me and clearly you are in wealthy private school circles disconnected from most of the population who attend state schools but regardless I think I have pretty good standing to explain to the Americans here how universities are viewed in the UK, by real people.

How laymen perceive St Andrews doesn’t matter. What matters most is how higher academic institutions (grad schools) and competitive firms (Consulting, Banking, Law, Tech, etc) perceive St Andrews. Right now, St Andrews is highly recognized in those circles and rising.

lol. keep deluding yourself. st. andrews is far from recognized in those circles

MBB has been actively recruiting at St Andrews, more than I can say for some of the US t30-t50 schools people like to throw around in this thread….

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Anonymous wrote:Those are two very nice private schools in England. Thank you for the English private school context.

At the end of the day, if you are US student, you shouldn’t make this decision on a whim. You need to go visit. Spend a few days there. Talk to professors and administrators. They typically roll the red carpet for international students so take advantage of that. The alumni base in the US is growing and you should be able to find alumns in every major city in the US to talk to and give you more guidance on your decision.

This board is full of good info and some terrible negative ones. Don’t let any single variable here influence your decision. take it as an informative tool, but do your own research. Talk to Alums. They are the best source of info here.

Thank you for the sanity. Please ignore the obvious poster here trying to demonize a whole group for whatever reason.
This is how it should be.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places.

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

As I stated on the other thread, my son who is now at Oxford was rejected by St Andrews….with an A*A*A*. You clearly have an agenda here. Your disdain for St Andrews, Durham is laughable if not pitiful. So now lets call anyone who attends Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc Ivy Rejects…..please. Have some common sense.

What happens in the US is irrelevant. I was explaining to you what the reputation is in the UK.

Sure sweetie. You, an american, are explaining to me, an English person who lives south of London what the reputation of St Andrews is. Please go away.

Sweetie yourself. Who do you think you are, Joanna Lumley? I have no idea where you got the idea that I am American. I am 100 percent British. Went to a comprehensive, took GCSEs and A-levels, applied through UCAS, watched Blue Peter, Play School and Grange Hill, not to mention Neighbours and Eastenders, celebrated my 18th in sixth form by going to the pub at lunch, know how to queue, regularly grumble about the weather, apologise unnecessarily and am currently drinking a cup of tea (and had marmite on toast for breakfast).

Clearly you are (allegedly) from further south than me and clearly you are in wealthy private school circles disconnected from most of the population who attend state schools but regardless I think I have pretty good standing to explain to the Americans here how universities are viewed in the UK, by real people.

How laymen perceive St Andrews doesn’t matter. What matters most is how higher academic institutions (grad schools) and competitive firms (Consulting, Banking, Law, Tech, etc) perceive St Andrews. Right now, St Andrews is highly recognized in those circles and rising.

lol. keep deluding yourself. st. andrews is far from recognized in those circles

MBB has been actively recruiting at St Andrews, more than I can say for some of the US t30-t50 schools people like to throw around in this thread….

you love making up shit. show me a single on campus event planned this year from mbb. None of the MBBs have a recruiting partner or alumni contact assigned to st andrews.

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Interesting…..

BCG was on campus yesterday Oct 11 - St Mary’s College

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https://careers.bcg.com/global/en/on-campus/london-school-of-economics

LSE Meet & Greet
9 October, 2025 | 7PM - 9PM | Europe/London (BST)

Compared to St.Andrews:

https://careers.bcg.com/global/en/on-campus/university-of-st-andrews

Nothing official. Only an event at Edinburgh open to all Universities in Scotland.