U of St Andrews - Admissions per State

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Anonymous wrote:I love Edinburgh , but it's a totally different school. Most kids would prefer one over the other.

but Edinburgh is a much easier admit! It's actually pretty popular at our Brooklyn public school. you only need 3s on some APs

It’s a better school

Better for graduate school, but not better for undergrad.


St Andrews crushes Edinburgh in the UK league tables for various factors, including graduate prospectus. Edinburgh does better in Global rankings because it incorporates graduate programs and research. Dartmouth and Brown for example do very poorly on global rankings relative to other US schools.

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St Andrews has been ranked ahead of Edinburgh on every undergraduate rankings in the UK for the last 20 yrs and it hasn’t even been close.

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Anonymous wrote:St Andrews has been ranked ahead of Edinburgh on every undergraduate rankings in the UK for the last 20 yrs and it hasn’t even been close.

No, St. Andrew's trajectory is more recent.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places. [/]

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places. [/]

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

just to clarify I was a DP. But you still don’t have a point, but you do you.

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“Oxbridge rejects are a type” what does that mean and why does it matter? With such limited places and so many brilliant students, the student population is very similar at the top schools. “Harvard/Yale rejects are a type”.. yeah the type that go to Penn/Dartmouth/Duke.

Yes, St Andrews does have rich Americans and that benefits both the school and the students.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places. [/]

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

As I stated on the other thread, my son who is now at Oxford was rejected by St Andrews….with an A*A*A*. You clearly have an agenda here. Your disdain for St Andrews, Durham is laughable if not pitiful. So now lets call anyone who attends Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc Ivy Rejects…..please. Have some common sense.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places.

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

As I stated on the other thread, my son who is now at Oxford was rejected by St Andrews….with an A*A*A*. You clearly have an agenda here. Your disdain for St Andrews, Durham is laughable if not pitiful. So now lets call anyone who attends Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc Ivy Rejects…..please. Have some common sense.

What happens in the US is irrelevant. I was explaining to you what the reputation is in the UK.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places.

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

As I stated on the other thread, my son who is now at Oxford was rejected by St Andrews….with an A*A*A*. You clearly have an agenda here. Your disdain for St Andrews, Durham is laughable if not pitiful. So now lets call anyone who attends Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc Ivy Rejects…..please. Have some common sense.

What happens in the US is irrelevant. I was explaining to you what the reputation is in the UK.

Sure sweetie. You, an american, are explaining to me, an English person who lives south of London what the reputation of St Andrews is. Please go away.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places.

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

As I stated on the other thread, my son who is now at Oxford was rejected by St Andrews….with an A*A*A*. You clearly have an agenda here. Your disdain for St Andrews, Durham is laughable if not pitiful. So now lets call anyone who attends Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc Ivy Rejects…..please. Have some common sense.

What happens in the US is irrelevant. I was explaining to you what the reputation is in the UK.

Sure sweetie. You, an american, are explaining to me, an English person who lives south of London what the reputation of St Andrews is. Please go away.

Sweetie yourself. Who do you think you are, Joanna Lumley? I have no idea where you got the idea that I am American. I am 100 percent British. Went to a comprehensive, took GCSEs and A-levels, applied through UCAS, watched Blue Peter, Play School and Grange Hill, not to mention Neighbours and Eastenders, celebrated my 18th in sixth form by going to the pub at lunch, know how to queue, regularly grumble about the weather, apologise unnecessarily and am currently drinking a cup of tea (and had marmite on toast for breakfast).

Clearly you are (allegedly) from further south than me and clearly you are in wealthy private school circles disconnected from most of the population who attend state schools but regardless I think I have pretty good standing to explain to the Americans here how universities are viewed in the UK, by real people.

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In the just released World Rankings St Andrews is ranked 23rd. 23rd in the UK, that is.

lol.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there and LOVES it. The high number of CT acceptances reflects the high number of boarding school kids.
Most of my son's friends are Americans (about 60%-ish) but his flat mate is European and so is his girlfriend (British -gulp!)
It is a fantastic place for an independent, adventurous kid. It is academically rigourous- hard to get into from the US but Ivy-level difficult from the UK and Scotland.

Hahahaha sorry couldn’t help butlaugh at your last comment. That’s such BS. British person here and no it doesn’t s definitely not under any criteria “Ivy level difficult” from the UK “and Scotland” (btw, Scotland is in the UK.

St Andrews is known as a choice for rich private school kids who were rejected from Oxbridge. That and rich dumb Americans make up most of the student body. Talented British students (that includes Scottish ones btw, as you seem to know little about the British isles) steer clear.

I’m English and I’m calling your bullshit. I have 3 kids. One is going through applications now. My first went to Oxford and his second option was St Andrews, with UCL and Durham 3rd and 4th in his list. My second one is at UCL because he was rejected at St Andrews despite A*A*A*. So please stop the bs. Many English kids with perfect A levels get rejected for the most competitive courses.

You are just full of it.

Yeah, they are the private school kids I mentioned, aren’t they? Durham is another one for Oxbridge rejects, but unlike St Andrews it does historically have a strong reputation. And a lot of private school kids.

this is ridiculous. nobody jumps on duke for being full of yale rejects. st Andrews is a very strong school and a tough admit all around. it's possible you haven't kept up with things for the last 20 years, which is fine, but stop commenting

Maybe but in Britain some universities are known as havens for Oxbridge rejects (not in a good way) and St Andrews College s definitely one of them. Durham is another. Bristol, to a lesser extent, too. St Andrews and Durham are rarely the first choice, Oxford or Cambridge are.

So what is your point? Not sure I understand your logic. You’re repeating the same nonsensical thing over. If you don’t get your first choice, you try for the second, then the third, etc. That is how life works. Why are you trashing the second choice? Ivy rejects is such a stupid term anyway in this era when there are a ton of kids with near perfect apps. Most of them are bound to be rejected because of the limited number of places.

I’m repeating myself? Did you read your last two messages???

Oxbridge rejects are a type and St Andrews has the reputation of being full of them, plus rich Americans. You can say for a third time that’s dumb, but it is what it is.

As I stated on the other thread, my son who is now at Oxford was rejected by St Andrews….with an A*A*A*. You clearly have an agenda here. Your disdain for St Andrews, Durham is laughable if not pitiful. So now lets call anyone who attends Duke, Vandy, Rice, etc Ivy Rejects…..please. Have some common sense.

What happens in the US is irrelevant. I was explaining to you what the reputation is in the UK.

Sure sweetie. You, an american, are explaining to me, an English person who lives south of London what the reputation of St Andrews is. Please go away.

Sweetie yourself. Who do you think you are, Joanna Lumley? I have no idea where you got the idea that I am American. I am 100 percent British. Went to a comprehensive, took GCSEs and A-levels, applied through UCAS, watched Blue Peter, Play School and Grange Hill, not to mention Neighbours and Eastenders, celebrated my 18th in sixth form by going to the pub at lunch, know how to queue, regularly grumble about the weather, apologise unnecessarily and am currently drinking a cup of tea (and had marmite on toast for breakfast).

Clearly you are (allegedly) from further south than me and clearly you are in wealthy private school circles disconnected from most of the population who attend state schools but regardless I think I have pretty good standing to explain to the Americans here how universities are viewed in the UK, by real people.

DP. How do explain the league tables?

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Anonymous wrote:In the just released World Rankings St Andrews is ranked 23rd. 23rd in the UK, that is.

lol.

This has been addressed numerous times. St Andrews does poorly on worldwide rankings because it has a very small graduate school program and has less research as result. The worldwide rankings favor larger academic institutions. For example, Dartmouth and Brown do terribly on the World rankings, but Pittsburgh does well. St Andrews does crush it in the UK league tables.

lol…