New OPM memo on RTO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really doesn’t affect me. I live 25
Min from the office, my kids are in aftercare/camps, therefore I can go back to the office everyday starting tomorrow. However, I am highly protective/efficient, I work 9-10 hrs at home. I will be in the office 8hrs and will work 4, then I will spend the other 4 hrs socializing. If you think that I don’t work then I won’t work. But I am not leaving my job.

Same. My kids are in HS. I work 9-10 hours a day and respond to emails even earlier/later since my agency allows Teams on personal phone. My commute isn’t bad. But they are getting strictly 7:30-4 once I return to the office.

If you don’t care about the mission quit, but refusing to work is pathetic and unethical, and I hope you get fired. Btw I’m a democratic who voted for Kamala. They want you to not do your job. They want you to quite quit so that nothing good gets enforced or done or so you screw yourself over so badly you get put on a PIP and fired. I hope the deep state is smarter than you, because we need intelligent people doing their jobs over the next four years instead of the entitled, self righteous people on here whining about aftercare and claiming they can’t have a child until both they and their husband have work from home jobs. Grow up.

How is working your 8hrs refusing to work? The RTO mandates you work your tour of duty of 8hrs and no more so the PP is well within their right to work 7:30-4 and no more than that. You’re literally insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:people are acting as if before Covid they were not going to the office five days a week and made it work.

Before covid I WFH four days a week, just like I do now.

[Anonymous]

Does the parking lot of a federal government worksite count as being at a federal government worksite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really doesn’t affect me. I live 25
Min from the office, my kids are in aftercare/camps, therefore I can go back to the office everyday starting tomorrow. However, I am highly protective/efficient, I work 9-10 hrs at home. I will be in the office 8hrs and will work 4, then I will spend the other 4 hrs socializing. If you think that I don’t work then I won’t work. But I am not leaving my job.

Same. My kids are in HS. I work 9-10 hours a day and respond to emails even earlier/later since my agency allows Teams on personal phone. My commute isn’t bad. But they are getting strictly 7:30-4 once I return to the office.

If you don’t care about the mission quit, but refusing to work is pathetic and unethical, and I hope you get fired. Btw I’m a democratic who voted for Kamala. They want you to not do your job. They want you to quite quit so that nothing good gets enforced or done or so you screw yourself over so badly you get put on a PIP and fired. I hope the deep state is smarter than you, because we need intelligent people doing their jobs over the next four years instead of the entitled, self righteous people on here whining about aftercare and claiming they can’t have a child until both they and their husband have work from home jobs. Grow up.

Working your actual scheduled work hours is not being unethical. It’s doing what you have been hired to do.

Is Congress working overtime? Are they full time M-F in their offices now?

I think giving my 40 hours is what I was hired to do.

Working for four hours and socializing for four hours is pathetic.

Who is doing that? Feds?
So bringing them into the office to be closer with each other and able to socialize more is the solution? Why not be a good manager and figure out why Johnny has too much time on their hands.

Most of my staff is busy and didn’t need a RTO mandate for me to watch them work in person

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really doesn’t affect me. I live 25
Min from the office, my kids are in aftercare/camps, therefore I can go back to the office everyday starting tomorrow. However, I am highly protective/efficient, I work 9-10 hrs at home. I will be in the office 8hrs and will work 4, then I will spend the other 4 hrs socializing. If you think that I don’t work then I won’t work. But I am not leaving my job.

Same. My kids are in HS. I work 9-10 hours a day and respond to emails even earlier/later since my agency allows Teams on personal phone. My commute isn’t bad. But they are getting strictly 7:30-4 once I return to the office.

If you don’t care about the mission quit, but refusing to work is pathetic and unethical, and I hope you get fired. Btw I’m a democratic who voted for Kamala. They want you to not do your job. They want you to quite quit so that nothing good gets enforced or done or so you screw yourself over so badly you get put on a PIP and fired. I hope the deep state is smarter than you, because we need intelligent people doing their jobs over the next four years instead of the entitled, self righteous people on here whining about aftercare and claiming they can’t have a child until both they and their husband have work from home jobs. Grow up.

Working your actual scheduled work hours is not being unethical. It’s doing what you have been hired to do.

Is Congress working overtime? Are they full time M-F in their offices now?

I think giving my 40 hours is what I was hired to do.

Working for four hours and socializing for four hours is pathetic.

What do you do? Do you ever talk to a coworker?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:people are acting as if before Covid they were not going to the office five days a week and made it work.

Who didn't have telework before covid?

Me. I was the only manager in my office who didn’t telework. The boss didn’t like it so I just didn’t do it but I would flex and TW on occasion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really doesn’t affect me. I live 25
Min from the office, my kids are in aftercare/camps, therefore I can go back to the office everyday starting tomorrow. However, I am highly protective/efficient, I work 9-10 hrs at home. I will be in the office 8hrs and will work 4, then I will spend the other 4 hrs socializing. If you think that I don’t work then I won’t work. But I am not leaving my job.

Same. My kids are in HS. I work 9-10 hours a day and respond to emails even earlier/later since my agency allows Teams on personal phone. My commute isn’t bad. But they are getting strictly 7:30-4 once I return to the office.

If you don’t care about the mission quit, but refusing to work is pathetic and unethical, and I hope you get fired. Btw I’m a democratic who voted for Kamala. They want you to not do your job. They want you to quite quit so that nothing good gets enforced or done or so you screw yourself over so badly you get put on a PIP and fired. I hope the deep state is smarter than you, because we need intelligent people doing their jobs over the next four years instead of the entitled, self righteous people on here whining about aftercare and claiming they can’t have a child until both they and their husband have work from home jobs. Grow up.

I never stated I would not do my job. I will only work the 8 hours I’m paid for - no more, no less. No more answering messages or emails outside of my normal working hours. Can’t fire me for that.

[Anonymous]

My husband who works in logistics does 4/10s, will he have to change his schedule?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really doesn’t affect me. I live 25
Min from the office, my kids are in aftercare/camps, therefore I can go back to the office everyday starting tomorrow. However, I am highly protective/efficient, I work 9-10 hrs at home. I will be in the office 8hrs and will work 4, then I will spend the other 4 hrs socializing. If you think that I don’t work then I won’t work. But I am not leaving my job.

Same. My kids are in HS. I work 9-10 hours a day and respond to emails even earlier/later since my agency allows Teams on personal phone. My commute isn’t bad. But they are getting strictly 7:30-4 once I return to the office.

If you don’t care about the mission quit, but refusing to work is pathetic and unethical, and I hope you get fired. Btw I’m a democratic who voted for Kamala. They want you to not do your job. They want you to quite quit so that nothing good gets enforced or done or so you screw yourself over so badly you get put on a PIP and fired. I hope the deep state is smarter than you, because we need intelligent people doing their jobs over the next four years instead of the entitled, self righteous people on here whining about aftercare and claiming they can’t have a child until both they and their husband have work from home jobs. Grow up.

Working your actual scheduled work hours is not being unethical. It’s doing what you have been hired to do.

Is Congress working overtime? Are they full time M-F in their offices now?

I think giving my 40 hours is what I was hired to do.

Working for four hours and socializing for four hours is pathetic.

Pathetic is sending productive people
Back to the office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m at a private company that did RTO about a year ago. I agree this is all dumb and performative, but it won’t actually be that bad. Everyone at my company just leaves at 3:30-4 to get kids, beat traffic, etc. It’s technically not allowed but all the managers look the other way because they are doing the same thing. I work fewer hours than I used to even though total time commitment with the commute is about the same.

This. Same experience. I find it bizarre that it’s now acceptable to work from 9:30 AM - 4 PM. Sometimes I even leave at 3.

Fed here. We just can’t do that. The #1 way to fire a Fed is timesheet fraud. It’s so easy if you prove it.

How do you prove it??

[Anonymous]

The sock puppet in here responding to themselves and lecturing us for being lazy and not working is quite funny. How do they find the time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the new version is much better written than the old version. I hope someone saved that old version for posterity's sake.

amanda scales isn’t the brightest tool in the shed.

She used to work at Twitter in AI (Xai), which explains so much, the DEI and RTO memo were both clearly written by AI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband who works in logistics does 4/10s, will he have to change his schedule?

AFAIK nothing in RTO discussions touches alt work schedules— it’s about where you work not your work schedule

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the new version is much better written than the old version. I hope someone saved that old version for posterity's sake.

amanda scales isn’t the brightest tool in the shed.

She used to work at Twitter in AI (Xai), which explains so much, the DEI and RTO memo were both clearly written by AI.

She (they) didn’t know the difference between remote and telework. Garbage in, garbage out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:people are acting as if before Covid they were not going to the office five days a week and made it work.

Who didn't have telework before covid?

Me. I was the only manager in my office who didn’t telework. The boss didn’t like it so I just didn’t do it but I would flex and TW on occasion.

Not being around personalities like you and your boss was one of the greatest benefits of telework.