New OPM memo on RTO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's say you work for FEMA via remote work ( converted from telework). HQ is over 50 miles and so is the closest field office. However within 50 miles there's a CBP office, so also part of DHS. Do you think they'd try to place you at a CBP office, or move you to another FEMA office?

What ever makes the most sense they will do the opposite

[Anonymous]

I’ve been thinking about just using my leave to come home earlier 2 days a week. I think it would be worth it to me. And/or asking my boss for part time work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's say you work for FEMA via remote work ( converted from telework). HQ is over 50 miles and so is the closest field office. However within 50 miles there's a CBP office, so also part of DHS. Do you think they'd try to place you at a CBP office, or move you to another FEMA office?

What ever makes the most sense they will do the opposite

My agency told us they don’t want to do a zillion RSAs for borrowing office space. But also that the agency who owns it will get first dibs at their offices and will most likely fill the space themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really doesn’t affect me. I live 25
Min from the office, my kids are in aftercare/camps, therefore I can go back to the office everyday starting tomorrow. However, I am highly protective/efficient, I work 9-10 hrs at home. I will be in the office 8hrs and will work 4, then I will spend the other 4 hrs socializing. If you think that I don’t work then I won’t work. But I am not leaving my job.

Same. My kids are in HS. I work 9-10 hours a day and respond to emails even earlier/later since my agency allows Teams on personal phone. My commute isn’t bad. But they are getting strictly 7:30-4 once I return to the office.

If you don’t care about the mission quit, but refusing to work is pathetic and unethical, and I hope you get fired. Btw I’m a democratic who voted for Kamala. They want you to not do your job. They want you to quite quit so that nothing good gets enforced or done or so you screw yourself over so badly you get put on a PIP and fired. I hope the deep state is smarter than you, because we need intelligent people doing their jobs over the next four years instead of the entitled, self righteous people on here whining about aftercare and claiming they can’t have a child until both they and their husband have work from home jobs. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those looking for child care, try colleges. Students are often willing to work just a few hours in the afternoon. That's where I found childcare when my kids were elementary school age.

Hahaha…If it were only that easy! And 18 year olds were that reliable!

Well this is what I had to do with my kids. Is it perfect? No and sometimes the young lady wasn’t available and I had to take leave. But you do what you have to do.

Early dismissals, late starts, school holidays, snow days, sick kids… It’s all a pain (and expensive) as a working parent but feds do also have generous leave. I didn’t take many vacations, didn’t have a cleaning lady, didn’t drive a fancy car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those looking for child care, try colleges. Students are often willing to work just a few hours in the afternoon. That's where I found childcare when my kids were elementary school age.

Hahaha…If it were only that easy! And 18 year olds were that reliable!

Yeah agreed. I mean college students are great but their schedules vary a lot, they are usually gone frequently, they have tests/illnesses come up. They can be fine, but I’ve never found them to be great.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did SSA says they are following the RtO memo— which has a carve out for following the law, and therefore CBAs? Or that 100% of staff would be coming in, screw the CHA? Big difference.

not sure why someone won't just post the language of the email, but from what i've seen it seems that all they did was send out the "will fully comply" email that was requested in the OPM memo: "The agency head or acting agency head should email all employees notifying them of President Trump’s PM Return to In-Person Work, attach a copy of the PM, and notify employees of the agency’s intention to fully comply with the PM."

but since the memo also says that "OPM recommends that agencies set a target date of approximately 30 days for full compliance with the PM, subject to any exclusions granted by the agency and any collective bargaining obligations" so full compliance doens't necessarily mean that they will ignore the CBA.

I wish I had copied the email but it basically said they will comply with the RO and mentioned exceptions for reasonable accommodations (and maybe something else, I forgot), but was noticeably quiet about the CBA.

From people I’ve talked to who know things it sounds like management isn’t planning to try to uphold the union contract and that AFGE has already filed suit.

[Anonymous]

Ignoring the “back in my day” troll, do we think the new OPM memo signals they’re being less draconian? Even just slightly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really doesn’t affect me. I live 25
Min from the office, my kids are in aftercare/camps, therefore I can go back to the office everyday starting tomorrow. However, I am highly protective/efficient, I work 9-10 hrs at home. I will be in the office 8hrs and will work 4, then I will spend the other 4 hrs socializing. If you think that I don’t work then I won’t work. But I am not leaving my job.

Same. My kids are in HS. I work 9-10 hours a day and respond to emails even earlier/later since my agency allows Teams on personal phone. My commute isn’t bad. But they are getting strictly 7:30-4 once I return to the office.

If you don’t care about the mission quit, but refusing to work is pathetic and unethical, and I hope you get fired. Btw I’m a democratic who voted for Kamala. They want you to not do your job. They want you to quite quit so that nothing good gets enforced or done or so you screw yourself over so badly you get put on a PIP and fired. I hope the deep state is smarter than you, because we need intelligent people doing their jobs over the next four years instead of the entitled, self righteous people on here whining about aftercare and claiming they can’t have a child until both they and their husband have work from home jobs. Grow up.

Working your actual scheduled work hours is not being unethical. It’s doing what you have been hired to do.

Is Congress working overtime? Are they full time M-F in their offices now?

I think giving my 40 hours is what I was hired to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been thinking about just using my leave to come home earlier 2 days a week. I think it would be worth it to me. And/or asking my boss for part time work.

I would not try for PT right now, stay under the radar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really doesn’t affect me. I live 25
Min from the office, my kids are in aftercare/camps, therefore I can go back to the office everyday starting tomorrow. However, I am highly protective/efficient, I work 9-10 hrs at home. I will be in the office 8hrs and will work 4, then I will spend the other 4 hrs socializing. If you think that I don’t work then I won’t work. But I am not leaving my job.

Same. My kids are in HS. I work 9-10 hours a day and respond to emails even earlier/later since my agency allows Teams on personal phone. My commute isn’t bad. But they are getting strictly 7:30-4 once I return to the office.

If you don’t care about the mission quit, but refusing to work is pathetic and unethical, and I hope you get fired. Btw I’m a democratic who voted for Kamala. They want you to not do your job. They want you to quite quit so that nothing good gets enforced or done or so you screw yourself over so badly you get put on a PIP and fired. I hope the deep state is smarter than you, because we need intelligent people doing their jobs over the next four years instead of the entitled, self righteous people on here whining about aftercare and claiming they can’t have a child until both they and their husband have work from home jobs. Grow up.

It’s really weird that you hang out in this thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best part is most of y'all voted for this!!!!!! lol.

Not one person I work with voted for this.

People who voted for Biden voted for this. Next time please send an energetic, likeable, competent candidate to the White House.

Are you blaming Biden for this? lol. This is all you MAGA, go back to the office!

MAGA are generally lacking in talent except for when it comes to mental gymnastics to blame everything on “the libs.” They’ll control the WH, Congress, and SCOTUS and still manage to blame Biden.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really doesn’t affect me. I live 25
Min from the office, my kids are in aftercare/camps, therefore I can go back to the office everyday starting tomorrow. However, I am highly protective/efficient, I work 9-10 hrs at home. I will be in the office 8hrs and will work 4, then I will spend the other 4 hrs socializing. If you think that I don’t work then I won’t work. But I am not leaving my job.

Same. My kids are in HS. I work 9-10 hours a day and respond to emails even earlier/later since my agency allows Teams on personal phone. My commute isn’t bad. But they are getting strictly 7:30-4 once I return to the office.

If you don’t care about the mission quit, but refusing to work is pathetic and unethical, and I hope you get fired. Btw I’m a democratic who voted for Kamala. They want you to not do your job. They want you to quite quit so that nothing good gets enforced or done or so you screw yourself over so badly you get put on a PIP and fired. I hope the deep state is smarter than you, because we need intelligent people doing their jobs over the next four years instead of the entitled, self righteous people on here whining about aftercare and claiming they can’t have a child until both they and their husband have work from home jobs. Grow up.

Working your actual scheduled work hours is not being unethical. It’s doing what you have been hired to do.

Is Congress working overtime? Are they full time M-F in their offices now?

I think giving my 40 hours is what I was hired to do.

Working for four hours and socializing for four hours is pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This really doesn’t affect me. I live 25
Min from the office, my kids are in aftercare/camps, therefore I can go back to the office everyday starting tomorrow. However, I am highly protective/efficient, I work 9-10 hrs at home. I will be in the office 8hrs and will work 4, then I will spend the other 4 hrs socializing. If you think that I don’t work then I won’t work. But I am not leaving my job.

Same. My kids are in HS. I work 9-10 hours a day and respond to emails even earlier/later since my agency allows Teams on personal phone. My commute isn’t bad. But they are getting strictly 7:30-4 once I return to the office.

If you don’t care about the mission quit, but refusing to work is pathetic and unethical, and I hope you get fired. Btw I’m a democratic who voted for Kamala. They want you to not do your job. They want you to quite quit so that nothing good gets enforced or done or so you screw yourself over so badly you get put on a PIP and fired. I hope the deep state is smarter than you, because we need intelligent people doing their jobs over the next four years instead of the entitled, self righteous people on here whining about aftercare and claiming they can’t have a child until both they and their husband have work from home jobs. Grow up.

Working your actual scheduled work hours is not being unethical. It’s doing what you have been hired to do.

Is Congress working overtime? Are they full time M-F in their offices now?

I think giving my 40 hours is what I was hired to do.

+1. Frankly too many people have been giving free labor and it hurts everybody because it artificially props up the insufficient budget and FTE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s called before care and after school, provided at the school. Starting at 7 am in the morning and ending at 5 pm in the evening.

And every single one has a waitlist that is years long. Try again.

Actually, no. They've been underutilized since the pandemic and WFH.

False. Try again.

Definitely false. We are looking everywhere for space to rent because we were already at 85% capacity with 60% telework employees hot seating when they come into the office.
Where were these empty offices?