7/24/23 Trial of Usman Shahid -- driver who killed two Oakton teens

Anonymous
I have been watching this group for a while.

We own BMWs and I would never ever gift my 18 year old kid a brand new one. Why?? He didn’t even have a license. These cars are way too fast and should never be driven by teens. His parents are so irresponsible and immature.

Driving 80+ mph?? Are you kidding me? A BMW driven at that speed is a weapon. I am so glad the jury found him guilty.

Those poor poor girls!!!!!!
Anonymous
Wonder if Shahid’s family will flush more money down the toilet by appealing. They could challenge the judge’s (correct) decision to admit into evidence the fact that he only held a learner’s permit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did he also learn his sentence today? Missed that part trying to wade thru all the bs on this thread.

Tomorrow I think.


That’s a few months away, he will get a recommendation tomorrow but official is still a few months away. I will give you a clear example for tomorrow sentences.
Hypothetically, the jury agree 5 years in jail. Then the judge will set a sentencing date. That date the judge will sentence him to the amount giving or he can reduce it to something else, he doesn’t have that option to increase the time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wonder if Shahid’s family will flush more money down the toilet by appealing. They could challenge the judge’s (correct) decision to admit into evidence the fact that he only held a learner’s permit.



They will appeals but only 1-3% of appeals are successful. I don’t see this one being successful because it did seem like the jury was fair.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did he also learn his sentence today? Missed that part trying to wade thru all the bs on this thread.

Tomorrow I think.


That’s a few months away, he will get a recommendation tomorrow but official is still a few months away. I will give you a clear example for tomorrow sentences.
Hypothetically, the jury agree 5 years in jail. Then the judge will set a sentencing date. That date the judge will sentence him to the amount giving or he can reduce it to something else, he doesn’t have that option to increase the time.


It’s worth noting that Judge Bellows is a heavy sentencing judge. I would expect he will give the maximum allowed by the jury decision.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did he also learn his sentence today? Missed that part trying to wade thru all the bs on this thread.

Tomorrow I think.


That’s a few months away, he will get a recommendation tomorrow but official is still a few months away. I will give you a clear example for tomorrow sentences.
Hypothetically, the jury agree 5 years in jail. Then the judge will set a sentencing date. That date the judge will sentence him to the amount giving or he can reduce it to something else, he doesn’t have that option to increase the time.


It’s worth noting that Judge Bellows is a heavy sentencing judge. I would expect he will give the maximum allowed by the jury decision.

Makes Shahid’s decision not to plead even more crazy!
Anonymous
So what happens now then? Is he free to go back to college until an appeal or does he go to jail until sentencing?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did he also learn his sentence today? Missed that part trying to wade thru all the bs on this thread.

Tomorrow I think.


That’s a few months away, he will get a recommendation tomorrow but official is still a few months away. I will give you a clear example for tomorrow sentences.
Hypothetically, the jury agree 5 years in jail. Then the judge will set a sentencing date. That date the judge will sentence him to the amount giving or he can reduce it to something else, he doesn’t have that option to increase the time.


It’s worth noting that Judge Bellows is a heavy sentencing judge. I would expect he will give the maximum allowed by the jury decision.


Thank you for that insight. I feel a slight sense of relief after today but don’t want to see him walk away w a light sentence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So what happens now then? Is he free to go back to college until an appeal or does he go to jail until sentencing?

He was taken to jail today, over objections from his attorney. Sentence starts today.
Anonymous
Hope he enjoys his powdered eggs and lukewarm near expired milk for breakfast. If he’s lucky maybe he’ll get a square biscuit with chipped mystery meat gravy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So what happens now then? Is he free to go back to college until an appeal or does he go to jail until sentencing?


The judge sent him to jail after the verdict.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have been following this thread from the start because it has been a faster source of updates than most. I am an attorney and I live on Blake Lane so I drive past this spot every day. I am shocked at the number of people desperately reaching for excuses for the convicted and trying to blame racism. First, the young women victims were also people of color, so the assertion that others only want the convicted to face justice because he is of color makes no sense. Second, it makes no sense to blame the other driver or the intersection. It is an objective fact that if the convicted was not driving well over double the speed limit, this accident does not happen and those children are still alive. It is that simple. It is not the other driver's fault and it's not the intersection's fault. But for the convicted decision to drive 81 in a 35, this does not happen. Everything else is smoke in mirrors.

Whether or not he was a "nice guy" is also irrelevant. You don't get to kill two kids and get away with it. Juries do not always reach the right decision, but they did today. There are no reasonable counterarguments.

Well put. There’s a reason that the prosecutor’s close only needed to be ten minutes long.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did he also learn his sentence today? Missed that part trying to wade thru all the bs on this thread.

Tomorrow I think.


That’s a few months away, he will get a recommendation tomorrow but official is still a few months away. I will give you a clear example for tomorrow sentences.
Hypothetically, the jury agree 5 years in jail. Then the judge will set a sentencing date. That date the judge will sentence him to the amount giving or he can reduce it to something else, he doesn’t have that option to increase the time.


It’s worth noting that Judge Bellows is a heavy sentencing judge. I would expect he will give the maximum allowed by the jury decision.


Thank you for that insight. I feel a slight sense of relief after today but don’t want to see him walk away w a light sentence.

Juries make the recommendation first in Virginia, and the judge cannot go above it. If the jury is sympathetic then he could still get a light sentence. The fact that it took so long for them to reach a verdict makes me think there’s a couple sympathetic jurors, but we’ll see.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, is he not charged with anything for hurting the 3rd girl?



She's fine now.


Can you stop? She had terrible injuries. You're just a clueless teenager. Karma does come around.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Phew! Glad to know we still have a functioning justice system.


Yes! So glad he was found guilty. Hope he gets a long sentence and the assets of the whole family are claimed during the civil trial. He and his family and supporter disgusting for accepting no responsibility for their reckless actions.



Just stop. 2 years should be enough !
We all know it was a mistake and he felt bad. We all did we all did. You just don’t understand teen boys who loves to speed and race


You are clearly someone related to Shalid. All these comments are not doing him any good. It makes his side look terrible for not taking responsibility and STILL making excuses. Just stop now.
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