Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here are some of the "violent leftists" who had those 20-year-old neo-nazi kluckers scared for their lives ... They look very dangerous.

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Cherry picking your photos doesn't help your cause, in fact it undermines it. Because it only take a quick effort to google for photos like these:

There is nothing wrong with the "killing Nazis is my heritage" one. Many of us have relatives who fought in WWII. No reason she shouldn't use that on a sign.

So are these American Nazis the same as the ones in WWII? Are these American Nazis supposed to be killed by private individuals, with no trial, no jury, no rule of law? Here he/she is (I thought it was a he, but it doesn't really matter), advocating mortal violence against people that he/she calls Nazis, by birthright.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many more will die under this Governor?
Why didn't he let the police or the National Guard intervene sooner, before someone got killed?

Because he was following a court order.

This. The Governor was in a damned did you do/ damned if you don't situation. The City had public safety concerns before the rally took place and said they couldn't secure the demonstration area. They tried to move it to an area that could be better secured. And a federal Court ordered them not to.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/36115819/judge-grants-injunction-jason-kessler-can-have-unite-the-right-rally-at-emancipation-park

If McAuliffe had moved the National Guard in before he absolutely had to, the Alt right would have sued. He didn't more them fast enough, and people are pissed.

Here's an idea, maybe the Alt right (and the ACLU, who represented them) should have worked with law enforcement to ensure public safety? Instead of forcing them to allow a protest that the CITY SAID WAS UNSAFE.

Yep. Big ACLU supporter here, but they need to reflect now.

+1. They have their reasons (because public safety has been used as a pretext in the past), but they are too dismissive of legitimate public safety concerns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We used to be proud of people who killed Nazis. Now Trump supporters have mixed feelings about that heritage while celebrating rebel traitors. Un-American as hell.

So you propose that it's open season to kill Americans who are Nazis? You think this is how a civil society of law conducts itself?

[Anonymous]

We shouldn't have American Nazis.

[Anonymous]

Reading comprehension problems? I didn't say it's okay. But lets not twist the narrative into something it is not. It's very different to say "A violent group of people attacked innocent bystanders" versus "Two violent groups clashed."

Again, there is no excuse for violent behavior, people who acted out in violence against others, except in self defense, should be brought to justice and face the full consequence under our laws. This include white nationalists, Nazis, Antifa members, and BLM activists.

This is the same as saying "violence from all sides" and you know it. Only one side showed up armed with the intent to fight.

I feel certain they were also hoping to get footage or photos of law enforcement attacking the alt-right, so they could use it in their recruitment materials. It seems they've learned a few things from the likes of ISIS.

The right to peaceably assemble is one worth fighting for. It's a despicable and diabolical mindset that uses that right to assemble with weapons and intent to use them.

I've never wanted to see people stripped of their citizenship before now. Round this trash up, drive them to the Mexico border and make them walk over to Nuevo Laredo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We used to be proud of people who killed Nazis. Now Trump supporters have mixed feelings about that heritage while celebrating rebel traitors. Un-American as hell.

So you propose that it's open season to kill Americans who are Nazis? You think this is how a civil society of law conducts itself?

Apparently it's open season to mow down thirty year old mothers in crowds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We used to be proud of people who killed Nazis. Now Trump supporters have mixed feelings about that heritage while celebrating rebel traitors. Un-American as hell.

So you propose that it's open season to kill Americans who are Nazis? You think this is how a civil society of law conducts itself?

I'll be interested in talking about appropriate solutions with people who agree that these white supremacists grievances are entirely frivolous. I'm not really interested in debating the finer points of that argument with people who think there is no relevant difference between these white supremacists and other aggrieved groups.

[Anonymous]

Wes Bellamy, assistant mayor of Charlottesville:

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What do you think?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Reading comprehension problems? I didn't say it's okay. But lets not twist the narrative into something it is not. It's very different to say "A violent group of people attacked innocent bystanders" versus "Two violent groups clashed."

Again, there is no excuse for violent behavior, people who acted out in violence against others, except in self defense, should be brought to justice and face the full consequence under our laws. This include white nationalists, Nazis, Antifa members, and BLM activists.

This is the same as saying "violence from all sides" and you know it. Only one side showed up armed with the intent to fight.

I feel certain they were also hoping to get footage or photos of law enforcement attacking the alt-right, so they could use it in their recruitment materials. It seems they've learned a few things from the likes of ISIS.

The right to peaceably assemble is one worth fighting for. It's a despicable and diabolical mindset that uses that right to assemble with weapons and intent to use them.

I've never wanted to see people stripped of their citizenship before now. Round this trash up, drive them to the Mexico border and make them walk over to Nuevo Laredo.

Wrong. The counter protestors showed up with chemical sprays and threw some of the first punches, per the WaPo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Reading comprehension problems? I didn't say it's okay. But lets not twist the narrative into something it is not. It's very different to say "A violent group of people attacked innocent bystanders" versus "Two violent groups clashed."

Again, there is no excuse for violent behavior, people who acted out in violence against others, except in self defense, should be brought to justice and face the full consequence under our laws. This include white nationalists, Nazis, Antifa members, and BLM activists.

This is the same as saying "violence from all sides" and you know it. Only one side showed up armed with the intent to fight.

I feel certain they were also hoping to get footage or photos of law enforcement attacking the alt-right, so they could use it in their recruitment materials. It seems they've learned a few things from the likes of ISIS.

The right to peaceably assemble is one worth fighting for. It's a despicable and diabolical mindset that uses that right to assemble with weapons and intent to use them.

I've never wanted to see people stripped of their citizenship before now. Round this trash up, drive them to the Mexico border and make them walk over to Nuevo Laredo.

Wrong. The counter protestors showed up with chemical sprays and threw some of the first punches, per the WaPo.

Exactly. Even The Washington Post was forced to admit the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Reading comprehension problems? I didn't say it's okay. But lets not twist the narrative into something it is not. It's very different to say "A violent group of people attacked innocent bystanders" versus "Two violent groups clashed."

Again, there is no excuse for violent behavior, people who acted out in violence against others, except in self defense, should be brought to justice and face the full consequence under our laws. This include white nationalists, Nazis, Antifa members, and BLM activists.

This is the same as saying "violence from all sides" and you know it. Only one side showed up armed with the intent to fight.

I feel certain they were also hoping to get footage or photos of law enforcement attacking the alt-right, so they could use it in their recruitment materials. It seems they've learned a few things from the likes of ISIS.

The right to peaceably assemble is one worth fighting for. It's a despicable and diabolical mindset that uses that right to assemble with weapons and intent to use them.

I've never wanted to see people stripped of their citizenship before now. Round this trash up, drive them to the Mexico border and make them walk over to Nuevo Laredo.

Wrong. The counter protestors showed up with chemical sprays and threw some of the first punches, per the WaPo.

Exactly. Even The Washington Post was forced to admit the truth.

You guys have got to learn what an op ed is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some of the "violent leftists" who had those 20-year-old neo-nazi kluckers scared for their lives ... They look very dangerous.

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Cherry picking your photos doesn't help your cause, in fact it undermines it. Because it only take a quick effort to google for photos like these:

There is nothing wrong with the "killing Nazis is my heritage" one. Many of us have relatives who fought in WWII. No reason she shouldn't use that on a sign.

So are these American Nazis the same as the ones in WWII? Are these American Nazis supposed to be killed by private individuals, with no trial, no jury, no rule of law? Here he/she is (I thought it was a he, but it doesn't really matter), advocating mortal violence against people that he/she calls Nazis, by birthright.

Holy shit lol did you really just try to make a delineation between "good" American Nazis and bad WWII Nazis? They're the same!! There is no threat to kill anyone, the sign simply says she's there protesting the Nazi presence because that's what her family DOES. Fight Nazis. Signs are not weapons or violence lmao

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Reading comprehension problems? I didn't say it's okay. But lets not twist the narrative into something it is not. It's very different to say "A violent group of people attacked innocent bystanders" versus "Two violent groups clashed."

Again, there is no excuse for violent behavior, people who acted out in violence against others, except in self defense, should be brought to justice and face the full consequence under our laws. This include white nationalists, Nazis, Antifa members, and BLM activists.

This is the same as saying "violence from all sides" and you know it. Only one side showed up armed with the intent to fight.

I feel certain they were also hoping to get footage or photos of law enforcement attacking the alt-right, so they could use it in their recruitment materials. It seems they've learned a few things from the likes of ISIS.

The right to peaceably assemble is one worth fighting for. It's a despicable and diabolical mindset that uses that right to assemble with weapons and intent to use them.

I've never wanted to see people stripped of their citizenship before now. Round this trash up, drive them to the Mexico border and make them walk over to Nuevo Laredo.

Wrong. The counter protestors showed up with chemical sprays and threw some of the first punches, per the WaPo.

Exactly. Even The Washington Post was forced to admit the truth.

You guys have got to learn what an op ed is.

Is it true or not true that the counter protestors showed up with chemical sprays?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many more will die under this Governor?
Why didn't he let the police or the National Guard intervene sooner, before someone got killed?

Because he was following a court order.

This. The Governor was in a damned did you do/ damned if you don't situation. The City had public safety concerns before the rally took place and said they couldn't secure the demonstration area. They tried to move it to an area that could be better secured. And a federal Court ordered them not to.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/36115819/judge-grants-injunction-jason-kessler-can-have-unite-the-right-rally-at-emancipation-park

If McAuliffe had moved the National Guard in before he absolutely had to, the Alt right would have sued. He didn't more them fast enough, and people are pissed.

Here's an idea, maybe the Alt right (and the ACLU, who represented them) should have worked with law enforcement to ensure public safety? Instead of forcing them to allow a protest that the CITY SAID WAS UNSAFE.

Yep. Big ACLU supporter here, but they need to reflect now.

+1. They have their reasons (because public safety has been used as a pretext in the past), but they are too dismissive of legitimate public safety concerns.

That's absurd. It's not the ACLU's job to organize the march. They are lawyers, and their job is to represent the First Amendment rights of their clients. Safety is the government's job. The court decides what balance is acceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Reading comprehension problems? I didn't say it's okay. But lets not twist the narrative into something it is not. It's very different to say "A violent group of people attacked innocent bystanders" versus "Two violent groups clashed."

Again, there is no excuse for violent behavior, people who acted out in violence against others, except in self defense, should be brought to justice and face the full consequence under our laws. This include white nationalists, Nazis, Antifa members, and BLM activists.

This is the same as saying "violence from all sides" and you know it. Only one side showed up armed with the intent to fight.

I feel certain they were also hoping to get footage or photos of law enforcement attacking the alt-right, so they could use it in their recruitment materials. It seems they've learned a few things from the likes of ISIS.

The right to peaceably assemble is one worth fighting for. It's a despicable and diabolical mindset that uses that right to assemble with weapons and intent to use them.

I've never wanted to see people stripped of their citizenship before now. Round this trash up, drive them to the Mexico border and make them walk over to Nuevo Laredo.

Wrong. The counter protestors showed up with chemical sprays and threw some of the first punches, per the WaPo.

Exactly. Even The Washington Post was forced to admit the truth.

You guys have got to learn what an op ed is.

Dear heart, it was in a news article, but nice try!