Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's the job of the government to keep the peace in a situation like this. Some of the demonstrators had the necessary permits, some did not. I don't know why the governor and the law enforcement saw fit to not enforce the law and allowed the situation to deteriorate. Nothing excuses physical violence except in self defense, but it's a failure of the VA governor and law enforcement agencies to not contain a confrontational situation.

The governor said in his statement that white supremacists and Nazis are not Americans. This is wrong. These violent white supremacists and violent Nazis are Americans the same as violent Antifa, and violent BLM members. Virginia has an obligation to issue a public gathering permit to anyone and maintain the peace - it is a core component of government function. I find it reprehensible for a government official to fail at his job and blame one side of a two-sided confrontation.

Have you seen the pictures of the violent white supremacists?

Maybe there are also pictures of people in Charlottesville wearing Black Lives Matter T-shirts and carrying helmets and shields and guns. I haven't seen any, though. If you have, please post them.

Yes I saw it. The target of their attack weren't random people on the street, but counter-demonstration people who did not have a permit to be there. Antifa/BLM members gathered at the statue the night before, even before the permitted demonstrators showed up, you saw that video right? Here's a link to CNN page:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally-car-crash/index.html

Antifa and BLM counter protesters were throwing rocks and bottles at the white nationalists, as per their usual mode of making their "voices" heard. Notice what the white nationalist demonstrators brought with them: shields.

Again, nothing excuses violence towards another person, but lets not pretend this is a one-sided act of violence. There is plenty of blame to go around here and ultimately it is a failure of the VA government to enforce the law and keep the peace. Why Antifa/BLM members were allowed to stay without a permit is beyond me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nazis and KKK came to protest full armed. Against unarmed clergy and counter protesters.

Thanks for posting this. Who gives a shit if protesters have weans (which 95 pct did not) when the Trump supporters showed up armed to the teeth? This man should have been thrown in jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Yes I saw it. The target of their attack weren't random people on the street, but counter-demonstration people who did not have a permit to be there. Antifa/BLM members gathered at the statue the night before, even before the permitted demonstrators showed up, you saw that video right? Here's a link to CNN page:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally-car-crash/index.html

Antifa and BLM counter protesters were throwing rocks and bottles at the white nationalists, as per their usual mode of making their "voices" heard. Notice what the white nationalist demonstrators brought with them: shields.

Again, nothing excuses violence towards another person, but lets not pretend this is a one-sided act of violence. There is plenty of blame to go around here and ultimately it is a failure of the VA government to enforce the law and keep the peace. Why Antifa/BLM members were allowed to stay without a permit is beyond me.

Antifa=the latest conservative boogeyman straw man concocted by the right to distract from violence in Trump's name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes I saw it. The target of their attack weren't random people on the street, but counter-demonstration people who did not have a permit to be there. Antifa/BLM members gathered at the statue the night before, even before the permitted demonstrators showed up, you saw that video right? Here's a link to CNN page:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally-car-crash/index.html

Antifa and BLM counter protesters were throwing rocks and bottles at the white nationalists, as per their usual mode of making their "voices" heard. Notice what the white nationalist demonstrators brought with them: shields.

Again, nothing excuses violence towards another person, but lets not pretend this is a one-sided act of violence. There is plenty of blame to go around here and ultimately it is a failure of the VA government to enforce the law and keep the peace. Why Antifa/BLM members were allowed to stay without a permit is beyond me.

So that makes it ok?

Every time people say, "Nothing excuses violence towards another person, but..." what they're really saying is, "I'm excusing violence towards another person, so that we can get on to this other issue, which is that one that I consider really important."

[Anonymous]

Here are some of the "violent leftists" who had those 20-year-old neo-nazi kluckers scared for their lives ... They look very dangerous.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes I saw it. The target of their attack weren't random people on the street, but counter-demonstration people who did not have a permit to be there. Antifa/BLM members gathered at the statue the night before, even before the permitted demonstrators showed up, you saw that video right? Here's a link to CNN page:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally-car-crash/index.html

Antifa and BLM counter protesters were throwing rocks and bottles at the white nationalists, as per their usual mode of making their "voices" heard. Notice what the white nationalist demonstrators brought with them: shields.

Again, nothing excuses violence towards another person, but lets not pretend this is a one-sided act of violence. There is plenty of blame to go around here and ultimately it is a failure of the VA government to enforce the law and keep the peace. Why Antifa/BLM members were allowed to stay without a permit is beyond me.

So that makes it ok?

Every time people say, "Nothing excuses violence towards another person, but..." what they're really saying is, "I'm excusing violence towards another person, so that we can get on to this other issue, which is that one that I consider really important."

Reading comprehension problems? I didn't say it's okay. But lets not twist the narrative into something it is not. It's very different to say "A violent group of people attacked innocent bystanders" versus "Two violent groups clashed."

Again, there is no excuse for violent behavior, people who acted out in violence against others, except in self defense, should be brought to justice and face the full consequence under our laws. This include white nationalists, Nazis, Antifa members, and BLM activists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's the job of the government to keep the peace in a situation like this. Some of the demonstrators had the necessary permits, some did not. I don't know why the governor and the law enforcement saw fit to not enforce the law and allowed the situation to deteriorate. Nothing excuses physical violence except in self defense, but it's a failure of the VA governor and law enforcement agencies to not contain a confrontational situation.

The governor said in his statement that white supremacists and Nazis are not Americans. This is wrong. These violent white supremacists and violent Nazis are Americans the same as violent Antifa, and violent BLM members. Virginia has an obligation to issue a public gathering permit to anyone and maintain the peace - it is a core component of government function. I find it reprehensible for a government official to fail at his job and blame one side of a two-sided confrontation.

Have you seen the pictures of the violent white supremacists?

Maybe there are also pictures of people in Charlottesville wearing Black Lives Matter T-shirts and carrying helmets and shields and guns. I haven't seen any, though. If you have, please post them.

Yes I saw it. The target of their attack weren't random people on the street, but counter-demonstration people who did not have a permit to be there. Antifa/BLM members gathered at the statue the night before, even before the permitted demonstrators showed up, you saw that video right? Here's a link to CNN page:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally-car-crash/index.html

Antifa and BLM counter protesters were throwing rocks and bottles at the white nationalists, as per their usual mode of making their "voices" heard. Notice what the white nationalist demonstrators brought with them: shields.

Again, nothing excuses violence towards another person, but lets not pretend this is a one-sided act of violence. There is plenty of blame to go around here and ultimately it is a failure of the VA government to enforce the law and keep the peace. Why Antifa/BLM members were allowed to stay without a permit is beyond me.

Kudos to those who showed up to express disdain at the bigotry of Nazis and KKKs. Fascists and white supremacists should know beyond a doubt that their hatred is unwelcome in any part of America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here are some of the "violent leftists" who had those 20-year-old neo-nazi kluckers scared for their lives ... They look very dangerous.

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Cherry picking your photos doesn't help your cause, in fact it undermines it. Because it only take a quick effort to google for photos like these:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's the job of the government to keep the peace in a situation like this. Some of the demonstrators had the necessary permits, some did not. I don't know why the governor and the law enforcement saw fit to not enforce the law and allowed the situation to deteriorate. Nothing excuses physical violence except in self defense, but it's a failure of the VA governor and law enforcement agencies to not contain a confrontational situation.

The governor said in his statement that white supremacists and Nazis are not Americans. This is wrong. These violent white supremacists and violent Nazis are Americans the same as violent Antifa, and violent BLM members. Virginia has an obligation to issue a public gathering permit to anyone and maintain the peace - it is a core component of government function. I find it reprehensible for a government official to fail at his job and blame one side of a two-sided confrontation.

Have you seen the pictures of the violent white supremacists?

Maybe there are also pictures of people in Charlottesville wearing Black Lives Matter T-shirts and carrying helmets and shields and guns. I haven't seen any, though. If you have, please post them.

Yes I saw it. The target of their attack weren't random people on the street, but counter-demonstration people who did not have a permit to be there. Antifa/BLM members gathered at the statue the night before, even before the permitted demonstrators showed up, you saw that video right? Here's a link to CNN page:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally-car-crash/index.html

Antifa and BLM counter protesters were throwing rocks and bottles at the white nationalists, as per their usual mode of making their "voices" heard. Notice what the white nationalist demonstrators brought with them: shields.

Again, nothing excuses violence towards another person, but lets not pretend this is a one-sided act of violence. There is plenty of blame to go around here and ultimately it is a failure of the VA government to enforce the law and keep the peace. Why Antifa/BLM members were allowed to stay without a permit is beyond me.

Kudos to those who showed up to express disdain at the bigotry of Nazis and KKKs. Fascists and white supremacists should know beyond a doubt that their hatred is unwelcome in any part of America.

So, kudos for throwing rocks, bottles and pepper spraying people who are legally and lawfully assembling in a public space by permit? I see who the real fascists are...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's the job of the government to keep the peace in a situation like this. Some of the demonstrators had the necessary permits, some did not. I don't know why the governor and the law enforcement saw fit to not enforce the law and allowed the situation to deteriorate. Nothing excuses physical violence except in self defense, but it's a failure of the VA governor and law enforcement agencies to not contain a confrontational situation.

The governor said in his statement that white supremacists and Nazis are not Americans. This is wrong. These violent white supremacists and violent Nazis are Americans the same as violent Antifa, and violent BLM members. Virginia has an obligation to issue a public gathering permit to anyone and maintain the peace - it is a core component of government function. I find it reprehensible for a government official to fail at his job and blame one side of a two-sided confrontation.

Have you seen the pictures of the violent white supremacists?

Maybe there are also pictures of people in Charlottesville wearing Black Lives Matter T-shirts and carrying helmets and shields and guns. I haven't seen any, though. If you have, please post them.

Yes I saw it. The target of their attack weren't random people on the street, but counter-demonstration people who did not have a permit to be there. Antifa/BLM members gathered at the statue the night before, even before the permitted demonstrators showed up, you saw that video right? Here's a link to CNN page:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally-car-crash/index.html

Antifa and BLM counter protesters were throwing rocks and bottles at the white nationalists, as per their usual mode of making their "voices" heard. Notice what the white nationalist demonstrators brought with them: shields.

Again, nothing excuses violence towards another person, but lets not pretend this is a one-sided act of violence. There is plenty of blame to go around here and ultimately it is a failure of the VA government to enforce the law and keep the peace. Why Antifa/BLM members were allowed to stay without a permit is beyond me.

Kudos to those who showed up to express disdain at the bigotry of Nazis and KKKs. Fascists and white supremacists should know beyond a doubt that their hatred is unwelcome in any part of America.

So, kudos for throwing rocks, bottles and pepper spraying people who are legally and lawfully assembling in a public space by permit? I see who the real fascists are...

Oh, is the t-shirt about Nazis hurting your feewings?


https://mobile.twitter.com/Harryslaststand/status/896503700033810438

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some of the "violent leftists" who had those 20-year-old neo-nazi kluckers scared for their lives ... They look very dangerous.

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Cherry picking your photos doesn't help your cause, in fact it undermines it. Because it only take a quick effort to google for photos like these:

There is nothing wrong with the "killing Nazis is my heritage" one. Many of us have relatives who fought in WWII. No reason she shouldn't use that on a sign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many more will die under this Governor?
Why didn't he let the police or the National Guard intervene sooner, before someone got killed?

Because he was following a court order.

This. The Governor was in a damned did you do/ damned if you don't situation. The City had public safety concerns before the rally took place and said they couldn't secure the demonstration area. They tried to move it to an area that could be better secured. And a federal Court ordered them not to.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/36115819/judge-grants-injunction-jason-kessler-can-have-unite-the-right-rally-at-emancipation-park

If McAuliffe had moved the National Guard in before he absolutely had to, the Alt right would have sued. He didn't more them fast enough, and people are pissed.

Here's an idea, maybe the Alt right (and the ACLU, who represented them) should have worked with law enforcement to ensure public safety? Instead of forcing them to allow a protest that the CITY SAID WAS UNSAFE.

It's the job of the government to keep the peace in a situation like this. Some of the demonstrators had the necessary permits, some did not. I don't know why the governor and the law enforcement saw fit to not enforce the law and allowed the situation to deteriorate. Nothing excuses physical violence except in self defense, but it's a failure of the VA governor and law enforcement agencies to not contain a confrontational situation.

The governor said in his statement that white supremacists and Nazis are not Americans. This is wrong. These violent white supremacists and violent Nazis are Americans the same as violent Antifa, and violent BLM members. Virginia has an obligation to issue a public gathering permit to anyone and maintain the peace - it is a core component of government function. I find it reprehensible for a government official to fail at his job and blame one side of a two-sided confrontation.

Which is great if the City can secure the protest. Here, they knew in advance it was dangerous to have hundreds of people with automatic weapons assemble in a small space, and that police didn't have the space they needed to keep the groups apart. They didn't try to cancel it mind you. They tried to move it to a safer location.

The Nazis, on the other hand, lit a fire in the theater, and then acted surprised that there was fire damage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some of the "violent leftists" who had those 20-year-old neo-nazi kluckers scared for their lives ... They look very dangerous.

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Cherry picking your photos doesn't help your cause, in fact it undermines it. Because it only take a quick effort to google for photos like these:

There is nothing wrong with the "killing Nazis is my heritage" one. Many of us have relatives who fought in WWII. No reason she shouldn't use that on a sign.

I agree, but I'm pretty sure that's a man holding the sign.

[Anonymous]

We used to be proud of people who killed Nazis. Now Trump supporters have mixed feelings about that heritage while celebrating rebel traitors. Un-American as hell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
There is nothing wrong with the "killing Nazis is my heritage" one. Many of us have relatives who fought in WWII. No reason she shouldn't use that on a sign.

Certainly better than wearing a tshirt that says, "Killing Jews is my heritage", or "Owning slaves is my heritage", or "My ancestors supported treasonous beliefs [seceding from the US]".