New OPM memo on RTO

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This group is angrier than the divorced women in the relationship section of the site.

Ha! Very true. There is at least one female government attorney on here that is totally chapped. She’s the one who writes all the dismissive, angry one liners.

In general, female attorneys who work for DOJ and the financial regulators seem most upset. Wonder why that is?

Honestly? Because I spent the last five years in a very stressful job, with an unpredictable schedule, working 60+ hours a week. I recently took a "mommy track" role that involved telework two days a week and I was really hoping to being more present for my two little kids (who are in daycare full time, before you ask). I feel like I'm letting them down.

But how are you different from any other Mom? It sounds like you have a good gig, but it may be changing. DOJ doesn’t owe you the life of your dreams. You seem entitled.

People have answered this question for you over and over, and you continue to ignore them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:people are acting as if before Covid they were not going to the office five days a week and made it work.

Before Covid I was going to the office 4 days/week and the agency was working towards more telework flexibilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those looking for child care, try colleges. Students are often willing to work just a few hours in the afternoon. That's where I found childcare when my kids were elementary school age.

Hahaha…If it were only that easy! And 18 year olds were that reliable!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I truly love how every single Fed lawyer is convinced that they can seamlessly make the transition to BigLaw, and succeed.

I'm a fed lawyer who fled from BigLaw and know that I don't have what it takes to succeed in the private sector -- mostly the desire or ability to generate business, but also the willingness to be constantly on and available to clients and to deal with BS. I work hard and really want to keep my federal job. Right now, telework is the least of the issues. I truly believe Vought when he says their goal is to make sure that feds are traumatized every single day when they go to work.

Stupid, ugly evil man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:people are acting as if before Covid they were not going to the office five days a week and made it work.

Yes and it was horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This group is angrier than the divorced women in the relationship section of the site.

Ha! Very true. There is at least one female government attorney on here that is totally chapped. She’s the one who writes all the dismissive, angry one liners.

In general, female attorneys who work for DOJ and the financial regulators seem most upset. Wonder why that is?

Honestly? Because I spent the last five years in a very stressful job, with an unpredictable schedule, working 60+ hours a week. I recently took a "mommy track" role that involved telework two days a week and I was really hoping to being more present for my two little kids (who are in daycare full time, before you ask). I feel like I'm letting them down.

But how are you different from any other Mom? It sounds like you have a good gig, but it may be changing. DOJ doesn’t owe you the life of your dreams. You seem entitled.

So crazy that we found a small change which made a big difference in people's ability to have both a family and do their job well and your reaction to Rs taking it away just to inflict trauma on feds is "you seem entitled".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m at a private company that did RTO about a year ago. I agree this is all dumb and performative, but it won’t actually be that bad. Everyone at my company just leaves at 3:30-4 to get kids, beat traffic, etc. It’s technically not allowed but all the managers look the other way because they are doing the same thing. I work fewer hours than I used to even though total time commitment with the commute is about the same.

The message those in my agency are hearing is 8 hours a day in office, no exceptions. If you need to leave early/come in late, take leave. No making up the time at home in the morning/evening before/after appointments.

How will they know?

When I first started working for the govt I had a boss that would make us sign in and sign out and she would sit and watch us come in and then check the sign in/out sheet. She was miserable and everyone left her group. And this is exactly what the Trump admin wants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This group is angrier than the divorced women in the relationship section of the site.

Ha! Very true. There is at least one female government attorney on here that is totally chapped. She’s the one who writes all the dismissive, angry one liners.

In general, female attorneys who work for DOJ and the financial regulators seem most upset. Wonder why that is?

Honestly? Because I spent the last five years in a very stressful job, with an unpredictable schedule, working 60+ hours a week. I recently took a "mommy track" role that involved telework two days a week and I was really hoping to being more present for my two little kids (who are in daycare full time, before you ask). I feel like I'm letting them down.

But how are you different from any other Mom? It sounds like you have a good gig, but it may be changing. DOJ doesn’t owe you the life of your dreams. You seem entitled.

Where are you getting that I think I'm different from anyone else? I'm sympathetic to all parents who feels like they're spread too thin. I think all employers would be wise to enact policies, such as telework, that mitigate that.

And can you stop with the personal insults? I'm trying to participate in the conversation in an honest and thoughtful way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This group is angrier than the divorced women in the relationship section of the site.

Ha! Very true. There is at least one female government attorney on here that is totally chapped. She’s the one who writes all the dismissive, angry one liners.

In general, female attorneys who work for DOJ and the financial regulators seem most upset. Wonder why that is?

Honestly? Because I spent the last five years in a very stressful job, with an unpredictable schedule, working 60+ hours a week. I recently took a "mommy track" role that involved telework two days a week and I was really hoping to being more present for my two little kids (who are in daycare full time, before you ask). I feel like I'm letting them down.

But how are you different from any other Mom? It sounds like you have a good gig, but it may be changing. DOJ doesn’t owe you the life of your dreams. You seem entitled.

For the love of whatever your deity is, go away. Let the feds have our grieving in peace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:people are acting as if before Covid they were not going to the office five days a week and made it work.

Who didn't have telework before covid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:people are acting as if before Covid they were not going to the office five days a week and made it work.

Yes and it was horrible.

I was only in 1 day a week before Covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m at a private company that did RTO about a year ago. I agree this is all dumb and performative, but it won’t actually be that bad. Everyone at my company just leaves at 3:30-4 to get kids, beat traffic, etc. It’s technically not allowed but all the managers look the other way because they are doing the same thing. I work fewer hours than I used to even though total time commitment with the commute is about the same.

The message those in my agency are hearing is 8 hours a day in office, no exceptions. If you need to leave early/come in late, take leave. No making up the time at home in the morning/evening before/after appointments.

How will they know?

When I first started working for the govt I had a boss that would make us sign in and sign out and she would sit and watch us come in and then check the sign in/out sheet. She was miserable and everyone left her group. And this is exactly what the Trump admin wants.

Pretty sure my managers, who I used to like, are gearing up to help people get fired. It’s all very demoralizing.

[Anonymous]

Let's say you work for FEMA via remote work ( converted from telework). HQ is over 50 miles and so is the closest field office. However within 50 miles there's a CBP office, so also part of DHS. Do you think they'd try to place you at a CBP office, or move you to another FEMA office?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those looking for child care, try colleges. Students are often willing to work just a few hours in the afternoon. That's where I found childcare when my kids were elementary school age.

Hahaha…If it were only that easy! And 18 year olds were that reliable!

Even when you find a reliable one, their class and work schedules change every 4 months! We had a great after school sitter for the fall semester (cheaper than aftercare for multiple kids), but then her spring semester schedule had a conflict so we're back to the drawing board. And college students don't want to pick up your kids from camp for two hours when they could get a full time summer job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:people are acting as if before Covid they were not going to the office five days a week and made it work.

Before Covid I was going to the office 4 days/week and the agency was working towards more telework flexibilities.

We had 3 day at home.