RTO and No Childcare.

[Anonymous]

Is it ironic that WFH anti RTO people use childcare with no RTO allowed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a lack of childcare that’s the problem; it’s that these women want to have it both ways. They don’t want to pay anyone else to watch their children, they prefer to fleece their employers.

Yes I want it both ways. I have it and am highly productive with a child at home. (Older now but was helpful when younger). You assume that every job is 9-5 and mine (& many) is not. I have a lot of flexibility. And my performance reviews, and many performance- related awards, including in the past year, demonstrates that.

That’s great you have flexibility. Most people are not as fortunate as you. My spouse will have none with rto. So, they will leave at 7 and probably get home between 6-10 pm depending on traffic and dealing with folks on the west coast and all over the world and still take calls and be on call 24-7. That’s dangerous with little sleep. I have a ton of medical appointments so they will burn through their leave. You se the difference with flexibility and no flexibility.

Then he can look for another job. My immigrant parents worked 12-14 hour jobs and never complained.

Of course they complain. Getting a specialized job is not that easy for the same pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it ironic that WFH anti RTO people use childcare with no RTO allowed?

I think it's different because people aren't arguing that jobs that have to be done in person should be allowed to TW. For example, someone working in a SCIF isn't advocating to be able to TW nor is someone that is a police officer or a firefighter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it ironic that WFH anti RTO people use childcare with no RTO allowed?

I think it's different because people aren't arguing that jobs that have to be done in person should be allowed to TW. For example, someone working in a SCIF isn't advocating to be able to TW nor is someone that is a police officer or a firefighter.

DP but I’ve actually heard the inverse. Because there are a lot of jobs that cannot be performed at home then no one should be able to WAH.

Which is weird because all jobs are different and have different requirements and different pros/cons.

My hair girl runs her own studio. She cannot WAH (heck she can’t even sit most of the day), but she has total control of her hours around her kids’ school schedules and can go part time or work more hours as her schedule allows.

Is it fair that other people get to sit at a desk all day and she has to stand? Is it fair that she can schedule her work whenever she wants and others can’t? What about teachers. They have to be in person, but they’re also off for 2 weeks of winter break while a lot of us WAH parents are burning leave or paying for camps.

It’s such a dumb rabbit hole to go down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it ironic that WFH anti RTO people use childcare with no RTO allowed?

I think it's different because people aren't arguing that jobs that have to be done in person should be allowed to TW. For example, someone working in a SCIF isn't advocating to be able to TW nor is someone that is a police officer or a firefighter.

Please translate to English.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another reason why 1950s America was better.

The lifestyle was different in the 1950s allowing more families to live on one income. Houses were smaller. No dishwashers. Often no air conditioning, second car, dining out, vacations other than to their families. Fewer clothes, fewer things. Living on one income is still possible, but challenging in this area.

It is hardly possible to live that lifestyle in this area. There is no place that has “affordable small houses” most families could afford on one income.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a lack of childcare that’s the problem; it’s that these women want to have it both ways. They don’t want to pay anyone else to watch their children, they prefer to fleece their employers.

Yes I want it both ways. I have it and am highly productive with a child at home. (Older now but was helpful when younger). You assume that every job is 9-5 and mine (& many) is not. I have a lot of flexibility. And my performance reviews, and many performance- related awards, including in the past year, demonstrates that.

That’s great you have flexibility. Most people are not as fortunate as you. My spouse will have none with rto. So, they will leave at 7 and probably get home between 6-10 pm depending on traffic and dealing with folks on the west coast and all over the world and still take calls and be on call 24-7. That’s dangerous with little sleep. I have a ton of medical appointments so they will burn through their leave. You se the difference with flexibility and no flexibility.

Then he can look for another job. My immigrant parents worked 12-14 hour jobs and never complained.

Of course they complain. Getting a specialized job is not that easy for the same pay.

Life has never been easier in human history.

[Anonymous]

Get real jobs.

My DH is a firefighter and works 2 or 3 24-hour shifts per week. He will retire at age 45ish with a fabulous pension. He is able to participate fully in raising our kids.

My master's is in secondary ed and work as a substitute teacher; I schedule my work days around DH's schedule. My kids have minimally needed outside child care. I traded in full-time teaching when my kids came along.

SMH at these glued-to-their-chairs moaning weenies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it ironic that WFH anti RTO people use childcare with no RTO allowed?

I think it's different because people aren't arguing that jobs that have to be done in person should be allowed to TW. For example, someone working in a SCIF isn't advocating to be able to TW nor is someone that is a police officer or a firefighter.

Please translate to English.

I don't know how it could be said any more clearly...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get real jobs.

My DH is a firefighter and works 2 or 3 24-hour shifts per week. He will retire at age 45ish with a fabulous pension. He is able to participate fully in raising our kids.

My master's is in secondary ed and work as a substitute teacher; I schedule my work days around DH's schedule. My kids have minimally needed outside child care. I traded in full-time teaching when my kids came along.

SMH at these glued-to-their-chairs moaning weenies.

No noi! We want them glued to their chairs and attached to their cell phones! DH is a chiropractor and we are making more money than ever. Just bought our beach house in Cape May.

Don't improve your posture and don't stop looking down at your phone. It's providing us with a very nice lifestyle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it ironic that WFH anti RTO people use childcare with no RTO allowed?

I think it's different because people aren't arguing that jobs that have to be done in person should be allowed to TW. For example, someone working in a SCIF isn't advocating to be able to TW nor is someone that is a police officer or a firefighter.

You take the job knowing the work environment. The issue is the jobs that were wfh long before Covid are now changing to office. Some scif jobs can be part or mostly wfh.

[Anonymous]

What is scif?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is scif?

Sensitive compartmentalized information facility. Place where classified work gets done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get real jobs.

My DH is a firefighter and works 2 or 3 24-hour shifts per week. He will retire at age 45ish with a fabulous pension. He is able to participate fully in raising our kids.

My master's is in secondary ed and work as a substitute teacher; I schedule my work days around DH's schedule. My kids have minimally needed outside child care. I traded in full-time teaching when my kids came along.

SMH at these glued-to-their-chairs moaning weenies.

You sound so weirdly bitter. It is very difficult to get a job as a firefighter, every person cannot do that and there are way more qualified people than there are spots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is scif?

How do you live in this area and not know what a scif is?