2024 JonBenet Documentary

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Anonymous wrote:An intruder comes with weapons and ransom notes already prepared. They aren’t rummaging through the house to sit down and make a garrot, find a pad and pen to write and then rewrite a ransom note, find a paintbrush and train tracks, and a flashlight.

I watched a tv show on Phroggers and it was terrifying! This one guy had been stalking a woman for almost a year and would sneak into her house, hide under her bed, and lie in wait for her to come home and go to sleep. He'd then sit and admire her while she slept and sneak out before she woke the next morning. It went on for months.

Another couple kept finding items disturbed in their home that they couldn't explain and at first thought the old owner/some random neighbor had a key and were doing to mess with them even though realtor assured them the locks had been changed before they moved in. They changed the locks again and still got the creepy feeling that someone had been in their space, so they set up cameras in each room and caught a phrogger. The guy would come out during the day when they left and enjoy the house. He hid himself in the evening before they got back from work. I think he lived in a portioned part of the basement or a small crawlspace/closet.

And everyone keeps ignoring the fact that there was a serial rapist in Boulder around that time who liked to break into the house while people were out and wait.

And I’ll add to your experience, I’ve seen tons of true crime where serial rapists and serial killers love to come into the house when no one is there with no intention of killing or raping, it’s part of their thrill… They keep ramping it up over weeks and months and it an escalates until they finally are able to rape or kill the victim. This is common.

Given that there was something like seven unlocked doors and windows, and they had never repaired the broken window for months earlier, and they didn’t set their alarm, this was just not concerned about security.

That would all be more compelling if patsy’s jacket fibers weren’t found all over each element of staging, including the garrote and pineapple bowl (which also contained burkes fingerprints), if she hadn’t written the ransom note (and the draft ransom note), if the murder hadn’t been conducted with materials from around the family home that only someone who lived there would really know where to find, if jonbenet didn’t have signs of prior sexual assault, if an abduction hadn’t been staged only to find the body in the house, if Burke hadn’t been heard on the 911 call despite parents claiming he was asleep, and so many other things that incriminate the family here.

People keep grasping to an intruder with no trace or a trace fragment of DNA and ignoring the Ramsey elephants in every room of that house.

There is no Ramsey smoking gun as much as you wish there was. Its all circumstantial. And ass in bumbling cops and it’s a mess.

The cops certainly bungled the investigation but yes the Ramseys fingerprints and fibers were all over each important piece of evidence in the timeline of jonbenets death. Even if the evidence is circumstantial, there’s actually a story to be made based on the evidence, as opposed to just saying “well, a door was unlocked (was it?) so it had to be an intruder who lingered for hours and then left without a trace and left zero evidence.”

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Anonymous wrote:An intruder comes with weapons and ransom notes already prepared. They aren’t rummaging through the house to sit down and make a garrot, find a pad and pen to write and then rewrite a ransom note, find a paintbrush and train tracks, and a flashlight.

I watched a tv show on Phroggers and it was terrifying! This one guy had been stalking a woman for almost a year and would sneak into her house, hide under her bed, and lie in wait for her to come home and go to sleep. He'd then sit and admire her while she slept and sneak out before she woke the next morning. It went on for months.

Another couple kept finding items disturbed in their home that they couldn't explain and at first thought the old owner/some random neighbor had a key and were doing to mess with them even though realtor assured them the locks had been changed before they moved in. They changed the locks again and still got the creepy feeling that someone had been in their space, so they set up cameras in each room and caught a phrogger. The guy would come out during the day when they left and enjoy the house. He hid himself in the evening before they got back from work. I think he lived in a portioned part of the basement or a small crawlspace/closet.

And everyone keeps ignoring the fact that there was a serial rapist in Boulder around that time who liked to break into the house while people were out and wait.

And I’ll add to your experience, I’ve seen tons of true crime where serial rapists and serial killers love to come into the house when no one is there with no intention of killing or raping, it’s part of their thrill… They keep ramping it up over weeks and months and it an escalates until they finally are able to rape or kill the victim. This is common.

Given that there was something like seven unlocked doors and windows, and they had never repaired the broken window for months earlier, and they didn’t set their alarm, this was just not concerned about security.

That would all be more compelling if patsy’s jacket fibers weren’t found all over each element of staging, including the garrote and pineapple bowl (which also contained burkes fingerprints), if she hadn’t written the ransom note (and the draft ransom note), if the murder hadn’t been conducted with materials from around the family home that only someone who lived there would really know where to find, if jonbenet didn’t have signs of prior sexual assault, if an abduction hadn’t been staged only to find the body in the house, if Burke hadn’t been heard on the 911 call despite parents claiming he was asleep, and so many other things that incriminate the family here.

People keep grasping to an intruder with no trace or a trace fragment of DNA and ignoring the Ramsey elephants in every room of that house.

There is no Ramsey smoking gun as much as you wish there was. Its all circumstantial. And ass in bumbling cops and it’s a mess.

The cops certainly bungled the investigation but yes the Ramseys fingerprints and fibers were all over each important piece of evidence in the timeline of jonbenets death. Even if the evidence is circumstantial, there’s actually a story to be made based on the evidence, as opposed to just saying “well, a door was unlocked (was it?) so it had to be an intruder who lingered for hours and then left without a trace and left zero evidence.”

But the intruder probably left a ton of evidence. The issue is at the police so badly bungled the case that a lot of things were disturbed, cleaned up, contaminated.

I haven’t seen anything to contradict John Ramsey‘s whole point of doing the new documentary, which was to urge the police to test many more items for DNA that have not been tested. I haven’t seen anybody say well these items have been tested. Why not? It just seems like the police have something to hide or at the very least an agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:An intruder comes with weapons and ransom notes already prepared. They aren’t rummaging through the house to sit down and make a garrot, find a pad and pen to write and then rewrite a ransom note, find a paintbrush and train tracks, and a flashlight.

I watched a tv show on Phroggers and it was terrifying! This one guy had been stalking a woman for almost a year and would sneak into her house, hide under her bed, and lie in wait for her to come home and go to sleep. He'd then sit and admire her while she slept and sneak out before she woke the next morning. It went on for months.

Another couple kept finding items disturbed in their home that they couldn't explain and at first thought the old owner/some random neighbor had a key and were doing to mess with them even though realtor assured them the locks had been changed before they moved in. They changed the locks again and still got the creepy feeling that someone had been in their space, so they set up cameras in each room and caught a phrogger. The guy would come out during the day when they left and enjoy the house. He hid himself in the evening before they got back from work. I think he lived in a portioned part of the basement or a small crawlspace/closet.

And everyone keeps ignoring the fact that there was a serial rapist in Boulder around that time who liked to break into the house while people were out and wait.

And I’ll add to your experience, I’ve seen tons of true crime where serial rapists and serial killers love to come into the house when no one is there with no intention of killing or raping, it’s part of their thrill… They keep ramping it up over weeks and months and it an escalates until they finally are able to rape or kill the victim. This is common.

Given that there was something like seven unlocked doors and windows, and they had never repaired the broken window for months earlier, and they didn’t set their alarm, this was just not concerned about security.

That would all be more compelling if patsy’s jacket fibers weren’t found all over each element of staging, including the garrote and pineapple bowl (which also contained burkes fingerprints), if she hadn’t written the ransom note (and the draft ransom note), if the murder hadn’t been conducted with materials from around the family home that only someone who lived there would really know where to find, if jonbenet didn’t have signs of prior sexual assault, if an abduction hadn’t been staged only to find the body in the house, if Burke hadn’t been heard on the 911 call despite parents claiming he was asleep, and so many other things that incriminate the family here.

People keep grasping to an intruder with no trace or a trace fragment of DNA and ignoring the Ramsey elephants in every room of that house.

There is no Ramsey smoking gun as much as you wish there was. Its all circumstantial. And ass in bumbling cops and it’s a mess.

The cops certainly bungled the investigation but yes the Ramseys fingerprints and fibers were all over each important piece of evidence in the timeline of jonbenets death. Even if the evidence is circumstantial, there’s actually a story to be made based on the evidence, as opposed to just saying “well, a door was unlocked (was it?) so it had to be an intruder who lingered for hours and then left without a trace and left zero evidence.”

They were items in their home. Of course there finger prints would be on things. It’s been 25 years or so. Nothing is going to happen. The police don’t care to solve this.

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Anonymous wrote:An intruder comes with weapons and ransom notes already prepared. They aren’t rummaging through the house to sit down and make a garrot, find a pad and pen to write and then rewrite a ransom note, find a paintbrush and train tracks, and a flashlight.

I watched a tv show on Phroggers and it was terrifying! This one guy had been stalking a woman for almost a year and would sneak into her house, hide under her bed, and lie in wait for her to come home and go to sleep. He'd then sit and admire her while she slept and sneak out before she woke the next morning. It went on for months.

Another couple kept finding items disturbed in their home that they couldn't explain and at first thought the old owner/some random neighbor had a key and were doing to mess with them even though realtor assured them the locks had been changed before they moved in. They changed the locks again and still got the creepy feeling that someone had been in their space, so they set up cameras in each room and caught a phrogger. The guy would come out during the day when they left and enjoy the house. He hid himself in the evening before they got back from work. I think he lived in a portioned part of the basement or a small crawlspace/closet.

And everyone keeps ignoring the fact that there was a serial rapist in Boulder around that time who liked to break into the house while people were out and wait.

And I’ll add to your experience, I’ve seen tons of true crime where serial rapists and serial killers love to come into the house when no one is there with no intention of killing or raping, it’s part of their thrill… They keep ramping it up over weeks and months and it an escalates until they finally are able to rape or kill the victim. This is common.

Given that there was something like seven unlocked doors and windows, and they had never repaired the broken window for months earlier, and they didn’t set their alarm, this was just not concerned about security.

That would all be more compelling if patsy’s jacket fibers weren’t found all over each element of staging, including the garrote and pineapple bowl (which also contained burkes fingerprints), if she hadn’t written the ransom note (and the draft ransom note), if the murder hadn’t been conducted with materials from around the family home that only someone who lived there would really know where to find, if jonbenet didn’t have signs of prior sexual assault, if an abduction hadn’t been staged only to find the body in the house, if Burke hadn’t been heard on the 911 call despite parents claiming he was asleep, and so many other things that incriminate the family here.

People keep grasping to an intruder with no trace or a trace fragment of DNA and ignoring the Ramsey elephants in every room of that house.

There is no Ramsey smoking gun as much as you wish there was. Its all circumstantial. And ass in bumbling cops and it’s a mess.

The cops certainly bungled the investigation but yes the Ramseys fingerprints and fibers were all over each important piece of evidence in the timeline of jonbenets death. Even if the evidence is circumstantial, there’s actually a story to be made based on the evidence, as opposed to just saying “well, a door was unlocked (was it?) so it had to be an intruder who lingered for hours and then left without a trace and left zero evidence.”

They were items in their home. Of course there finger prints would be on things. It’s been 25 years or so. Nothing is going to happen. The police don’t care to solve this.

Their fingerprints were all over items related to her MURDER and coverup. If they’d been sleeping like they said, that wouldn’t be the case. God

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Anonymous wrote:An intruder comes with weapons and ransom notes already prepared. They aren’t rummaging through the house to sit down and make a garrot, find a pad and pen to write and then rewrite a ransom note, find a paintbrush and train tracks, and a flashlight.

I watched a tv show on Phroggers and it was terrifying! This one guy had been stalking a woman for almost a year and would sneak into her house, hide under her bed, and lie in wait for her to come home and go to sleep. He'd then sit and admire her while she slept and sneak out before she woke the next morning. It went on for months.

Another couple kept finding items disturbed in their home that they couldn't explain and at first thought the old owner/some random neighbor had a key and were doing to mess with them even though realtor assured them the locks had been changed before they moved in. They changed the locks again and still got the creepy feeling that someone had been in their space, so they set up cameras in each room and caught a phrogger. The guy would come out during the day when they left and enjoy the house. He hid himself in the evening before they got back from work. I think he lived in a portioned part of the basement or a small crawlspace/closet.

And everyone keeps ignoring the fact that there was a serial rapist in Boulder around that time who liked to break into the house while people were out and wait.

And I’ll add to your experience, I’ve seen tons of true crime where serial rapists and serial killers love to come into the house when no one is there with no intention of killing or raping, it’s part of their thrill… They keep ramping it up over weeks and months and it an escalates until they finally are able to rape or kill the victim. This is common.

Given that there was something like seven unlocked doors and windows, and they had never repaired the broken window for months earlier, and they didn’t set their alarm, this was just not concerned about security.

That would all be more compelling if patsy’s jacket fibers weren’t found all over each element of staging, including the garrote and pineapple bowl (which also contained burkes fingerprints), if she hadn’t written the ransom note (and the draft ransom note), if the murder hadn’t been conducted with materials from around the family home that only someone who lived there would really know where to find, if jonbenet didn’t have signs of prior sexual assault, if an abduction hadn’t been staged only to find the body in the house, if Burke hadn’t been heard on the 911 call despite parents claiming he was asleep, and so many other things that incriminate the family here.

People keep grasping to an intruder with no trace or a trace fragment of DNA and ignoring the Ramsey elephants in every room of that house.

There is no Ramsey smoking gun as much as you wish there was. Its all circumstantial. And ass in bumbling cops and it’s a mess.

The cops certainly bungled the investigation but yes the Ramseys fingerprints and fibers were all over each important piece of evidence in the timeline of jonbenets death. Even if the evidence is circumstantial, there’s actually a story to be made based on the evidence, as opposed to just saying “well, a door was unlocked (was it?) so it had to be an intruder who lingered for hours and then left without a trace and left zero evidence.”

They were items in their home. Of course there finger prints would be on things. It’s been 25 years or so. Nothing is going to happen. The police don’t care to solve this.

Their fingerprints were all over items related to her MURDER and coverup. If they’d been sleeping like they said, that wouldn’t be the case. God

Those are their items and an intruder could have been wearing gloves. This isn’t the slam dunk you seem to think it is. I mean, come on, they would have arrested them decades ago if it was.

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Anonymous wrote:An intruder comes with weapons and ransom notes already prepared. They aren’t rummaging through the house to sit down and make a garrot, find a pad and pen to write and then rewrite a ransom note, find a paintbrush and train tracks, and a flashlight.

I watched a tv show on Phroggers and it was terrifying! This one guy had been stalking a woman for almost a year and would sneak into her house, hide under her bed, and lie in wait for her to come home and go to sleep. He'd then sit and admire her while she slept and sneak out before she woke the next morning. It went on for months.

Another couple kept finding items disturbed in their home that they couldn't explain and at first thought the old owner/some random neighbor had a key and were doing to mess with them even though realtor assured them the locks had been changed before they moved in. They changed the locks again and still got the creepy feeling that someone had been in their space, so they set up cameras in each room and caught a phrogger. The guy would come out during the day when they left and enjoy the house. He hid himself in the evening before they got back from work. I think he lived in a portioned part of the basement or a small crawlspace/closet.

And everyone keeps ignoring the fact that there was a serial rapist in Boulder around that time who liked to break into the house while people were out and wait.

And I’ll add to your experience, I’ve seen tons of true crime where serial rapists and serial killers love to come into the house when no one is there with no intention of killing or raping, it’s part of their thrill… They keep ramping it up over weeks and months and it an escalates until they finally are able to rape or kill the victim. This is common.

Given that there was something like seven unlocked doors and windows, and they had never repaired the broken window for months earlier, and they didn’t set their alarm, this was just not concerned about security.

That would all be more compelling if patsy’s jacket fibers weren’t found all over each element of staging, including the garrote and pineapple bowl (which also contained burkes fingerprints), if she hadn’t written the ransom note (and the draft ransom note), if the murder hadn’t been conducted with materials from around the family home that only someone who lived there would really know where to find, if jonbenet didn’t have signs of prior sexual assault, if an abduction hadn’t been staged only to find the body in the house, if Burke hadn’t been heard on the 911 call despite parents claiming he was asleep, and so many other things that incriminate the family here.

People keep grasping to an intruder with no trace or a trace fragment of DNA and ignoring the Ramsey elephants in every room of that house.

There is no Ramsey smoking gun as much as you wish there was. Its all circumstantial. And ass in bumbling cops and it’s a mess.

The cops certainly bungled the investigation but yes the Ramseys fingerprints and fibers were all over each important piece of evidence in the timeline of jonbenets death. Even if the evidence is circumstantial, there’s actually a story to be made based on the evidence, as opposed to just saying “well, a door was unlocked (was it?) so it had to be an intruder who lingered for hours and then left without a trace and left zero evidence.”

They were items in their home. Of course there finger prints would be on things. It’s been 25 years or so. Nothing is going to happen. The police don’t care to solve this.

Their fingerprints were all over items related to her MURDER and coverup. If they’d been sleeping like they said, that wouldn’t be the case. God

Those are their items and an intruder could have been wearing gloves. This isn’t the slam dunk you seem to think it is. I mean, come on, they would have arrested them decades ago if it was.

If the garrote and the bowl of pineapple were their items, we’ve got a problem.

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I just watched this documentary on Netflix a few nights ago + it was very compelling to watch.

I also have read the book that both parents published awhile ago.

There will always be a small part of me that will wonder if any family members were responsible for her murder, but for the most part I think it was a sick intruder.

Probably someone who broke into the already (!) broken glass window in the basement & waited Xmas evening for the family to return home.

Then once everyone was in bed - he murdered JonBenet.

What is weird to me is what the motive originally was?
There was a ransom requested in the ransom note found yet the poor child was murdered very shortly after being taken from her bed.

If someone truly wanted $$, why would they kill her??
Perhaps JonBenet recognized her perpetrator and he “had” to kill her so she wouldn’t tell on him…..

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Anonymous wrote:An intruder comes with weapons and ransom notes already prepared. They aren’t rummaging through the house to sit down and make a garrot, find a pad and pen to write and then rewrite a ransom note, find a paintbrush and train tracks, and a flashlight.

I watched a tv show on Phroggers and it was terrifying! This one guy had been stalking a woman for almost a year and would sneak into her house, hide under her bed, and lie in wait for her to come home and go to sleep. He'd then sit and admire her while she slept and sneak out before she woke the next morning. It went on for months.

Another couple kept finding items disturbed in their home that they couldn't explain and at first thought the old owner/some random neighbor had a key and were doing to mess with them even though realtor assured them the locks had been changed before they moved in. They changed the locks again and still got the creepy feeling that someone had been in their space, so they set up cameras in each room and caught a phrogger. The guy would come out during the day when they left and enjoy the house. He hid himself in the evening before they got back from work. I think he lived in a portioned part of the basement or a small crawlspace/closet.

And everyone keeps ignoring the fact that there was a serial rapist in Boulder around that time who liked to break into the house while people were out and wait.

And I’ll add to your experience, I’ve seen tons of true crime where serial rapists and serial killers love to come into the house when no one is there with no intention of killing or raping, it’s part of their thrill… They keep ramping it up over weeks and months and it an escalates until they finally are able to rape or kill the victim. This is common.

Given that there was something like seven unlocked doors and windows, and they had never repaired the broken window for months earlier, and they didn’t set their alarm, this was just not concerned about security.

That would all be more compelling if patsy’s jacket fibers weren’t found all over each element of staging, including the garrote and pineapple bowl (which also contained burkes fingerprints), if she hadn’t written the ransom note (and the draft ransom note), if the murder hadn’t been conducted with materials from around the family home that only someone who lived there would really know where to find, if jonbenet didn’t have signs of prior sexual assault, if an abduction hadn’t been staged only to find the body in the house, if Burke hadn’t been heard on the 911 call despite parents claiming he was asleep, and so many other things that incriminate the family here.

People keep grasping to an intruder with no trace or a trace fragment of DNA and ignoring the Ramsey elephants in every room of that house.

There is no Ramsey smoking gun as much as you wish there was. Its all circumstantial. And ass in bumbling cops and it’s a mess.

I think the ransom note is a smoking gun. Why would an intruder say the daughter is safe and alive in order to get money (detailed at great length about specificity) then keep the daughter dead in the basement?

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Anonymous wrote:An intruder comes with weapons and ransom notes already prepared. They aren’t rummaging through the house to sit down and make a garrot, find a pad and pen to write and then rewrite a ransom note, find a paintbrush and train tracks, and a flashlight.

I watched a tv show on Phroggers and it was terrifying! This one guy had been stalking a woman for almost a year and would sneak into her house, hide under her bed, and lie in wait for her to come home and go to sleep. He'd then sit and admire her while she slept and sneak out before she woke the next morning. It went on for months.

Another couple kept finding items disturbed in their home that they couldn't explain and at first thought the old owner/some random neighbor had a key and were doing to mess with them even though realtor assured them the locks had been changed before they moved in. They changed the locks again and still got the creepy feeling that someone had been in their space, so they set up cameras in each room and caught a phrogger. The guy would come out during the day when they left and enjoy the house. He hid himself in the evening before they got back from work. I think he lived in a portioned part of the basement or a small crawlspace/closet.

And everyone keeps ignoring the fact that there was a serial rapist in Boulder around that time who liked to break into the house while people were out and wait.

And I’ll add to your experience, I’ve seen tons of true crime where serial rapists and serial killers love to come into the house when no one is there with no intention of killing or raping, it’s part of their thrill… They keep ramping it up over weeks and months and it an escalates until they finally are able to rape or kill the victim. This is common.

Given that there was something like seven unlocked doors and windows, and they had never repaired the broken window for months earlier, and they didn’t set their alarm, this was just not concerned about security.

That would all be more compelling if patsy’s jacket fibers weren’t found all over each element of staging, including the garrote and pineapple bowl (which also contained burkes fingerprints), if she hadn’t written the ransom note (and the draft ransom note), if the murder hadn’t been conducted with materials from around the family home that only someone who lived there would really know where to find, if jonbenet didn’t have signs of prior sexual assault, if an abduction hadn’t been staged only to find the body in the house, if Burke hadn’t been heard on the 911 call despite parents claiming he was asleep, and so many other things that incriminate the family here.

People keep grasping to an intruder with no trace or a trace fragment of DNA and ignoring the Ramsey elephants in every room of that house.

There is no Ramsey smoking gun as much as you wish there was. Its all circumstantial. And ass in bumbling cops and it’s a mess.

I think the ransom note is a smoking gun. Why would an intruder say the daughter is safe and alive in order to get money (detailed at great length about specificity) then keep the daughter dead in the basement?

They would have brought a ransom note not sat writing it for 30 minutes. And then put notepad and pen neatly back in their places. Please.

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Anonymous wrote:An intruder comes with weapons and ransom notes already prepared. They aren’t rummaging through the house to sit down and make a garrot, find a pad and pen to write and then rewrite a ransom note, find a paintbrush and train tracks, and a flashlight.

I watched a tv show on Phroggers and it was terrifying! This one guy had been stalking a woman for almost a year and would sneak into her house, hide under her bed, and lie in wait for her to come home and go to sleep. He'd then sit and admire her while she slept and sneak out before she woke the next morning. It went on for months.

Another couple kept finding items disturbed in their home that they couldn't explain and at first thought the old owner/some random neighbor had a key and were doing to mess with them even though realtor assured them the locks had been changed before they moved in. They changed the locks again and still got the creepy feeling that someone had been in their space, so they set up cameras in each room and caught a phrogger. The guy would come out during the day when they left and enjoy the house. He hid himself in the evening before they got back from work. I think he lived in a portioned part of the basement or a small crawlspace/closet.

And everyone keeps ignoring the fact that there was a serial rapist in Boulder around that time who liked to break into the house while people were out and wait.

And I’ll add to your experience, I’ve seen tons of true crime where serial rapists and serial killers love to come into the house when no one is there with no intention of killing or raping, it’s part of their thrill… They keep ramping it up over weeks and months and it an escalates until they finally are able to rape or kill the victim. This is common.

Given that there was something like seven unlocked doors and windows, and they had never repaired the broken window for months earlier, and they didn’t set their alarm, this was just not concerned about security.

That would all be more compelling if patsy’s jacket fibers weren’t found all over each element of staging, including the garrote and pineapple bowl (which also contained burkes fingerprints), if she hadn’t written the ransom note (and the draft ransom note), if the murder hadn’t been conducted with materials from around the family home that only someone who lived there would really know where to find, if jonbenet didn’t have signs of prior sexual assault, if an abduction hadn’t been staged only to find the body in the house, if Burke hadn’t been heard on the 911 call despite parents claiming he was asleep, and so many other things that incriminate the family here.

People keep grasping to an intruder with no trace or a trace fragment of DNA and ignoring the Ramsey elephants in every room of that house.

There is no Ramsey smoking gun as much as you wish there was. Its all circumstantial. And ass in bumbling cops and it’s a mess.

I think the ransom note is a smoking gun. Why would an intruder say the daughter is safe and alive in order to get money (detailed at great length about specificity) then keep the daughter dead in the basement?

They would have brought a ransom note not sat writing it for 30 minutes. And then put notepad and pen neatly back in their places. Please.

Exactly. This was someone who knew who JB was and had likely been in the house before and could have taken the notepad then. If the theory can easily have holes poked in it, it’s not a smoking gun.

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Anonymous wrote:An intruder comes with weapons and ransom notes already prepared. They aren’t rummaging through the house to sit down and make a garrot, find a pad and pen to write and then rewrite a ransom note, find a paintbrush and train tracks, and a flashlight.

I watched a tv show on Phroggers and it was terrifying! This one guy had been stalking a woman for almost a year and would sneak into her house, hide under her bed, and lie in wait for her to come home and go to sleep. He'd then sit and admire her while she slept and sneak out before she woke the next morning. It went on for months.

Another couple kept finding items disturbed in their home that they couldn't explain and at first thought the old owner/some random neighbor had a key and were doing to mess with them even though realtor assured them the locks had been changed before they moved in. They changed the locks again and still got the creepy feeling that someone had been in their space, so they set up cameras in each room and caught a phrogger. The guy would come out during the day when they left and enjoy the house. He hid himself in the evening before they got back from work. I think he lived in a portioned part of the basement or a small crawlspace/closet.

And everyone keeps ignoring the fact that there was a serial rapist in Boulder around that time who liked to break into the house while people were out and wait.

And I’ll add to your experience, I’ve seen tons of true crime where serial rapists and serial killers love to come into the house when no one is there with no intention of killing or raping, it’s part of their thrill… They keep ramping it up over weeks and months and it an escalates until they finally are able to rape or kill the victim. This is common.

Given that there was something like seven unlocked doors and windows, and they had never repaired the broken window for months earlier, and they didn’t set their alarm, this was just not concerned about security.

That would all be more compelling if patsy’s jacket fibers weren’t found all over each element of staging, including the garrote and pineapple bowl (which also contained burkes fingerprints), if she hadn’t written the ransom note (and the draft ransom note), if the murder hadn’t been conducted with materials from around the family home that only someone who lived there would really know where to find, if jonbenet didn’t have signs of prior sexual assault, if an abduction hadn’t been staged only to find the body in the house, if Burke hadn’t been heard on the 911 call despite parents claiming he was asleep, and so many other things that incriminate the family here.

People keep grasping to an intruder with no trace or a trace fragment of DNA and ignoring the Ramsey elephants in every room of that house.

There is no Ramsey smoking gun as much as you wish there was. Its all circumstantial. And ass in bumbling cops and it’s a mess.

The cops certainly bungled the investigation but yes the Ramseys fingerprints and fibers were all over each important piece of evidence in the timeline of jonbenets death. Even if the evidence is circumstantial, there’s actually a story to be made based on the evidence, as opposed to just saying “well, a door was unlocked (was it?) so it had to be an intruder who lingered for hours and then left without a trace and left zero evidence.”

They were items in their home. Of course there finger prints would be on things. It’s been 25 years or so. Nothing is going to happen. The police don’t care to solve this.

Their fingerprints were all over items related to her MURDER and coverup. If they’d been sleeping like they said, that wouldn’t be the case. God

Those are their items and an intruder could have been wearing gloves. This isn’t the slam dunk you seem to think it is. I mean, come on, they would have arrested them decades ago if it was.

If the garrote and the bowl of pineapple were their items, we’ve got a problem.

Is a bowl in your house not your item? Would it not have your fingerprints all over it if you put it away on a shelf?

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Anonymous wrote:An intruder comes with weapons and ransom notes already prepared. They aren’t rummaging through the house to sit down and make a garrot, find a pad and pen to write and then rewrite a ransom note, find a paintbrush and train tracks, and a flashlight.

I watched a tv show on Phroggers and it was terrifying! This one guy had been stalking a woman for almost a year and would sneak into her house, hide under her bed, and lie in wait for her to come home and go to sleep. He'd then sit and admire her while she slept and sneak out before she woke the next morning. It went on for months.

Another couple kept finding items disturbed in their home that they couldn't explain and at first thought the old owner/some random neighbor had a key and were doing to mess with them even though realtor assured them the locks had been changed before they moved in. They changed the locks again and still got the creepy feeling that someone had been in their space, so they set up cameras in each room and caught a phrogger. The guy would come out during the day when they left and enjoy the house. He hid himself in the evening before they got back from work. I think he lived in a portioned part of the basement or a small crawlspace/closet.

And everyone keeps ignoring the fact that there was a serial rapist in Boulder around that time who liked to break into the house while people were out and wait.

And I’ll add to your experience, I’ve seen tons of true crime where serial rapists and serial killers love to come into the house when no one is there with no intention of killing or raping, it’s part of their thrill… They keep ramping it up over weeks and months and it an escalates until they finally are able to rape or kill the victim. This is common.

Given that there was something like seven unlocked doors and windows, and they had never repaired the broken window for months earlier, and they didn’t set their alarm, this was just not concerned about security.

That would all be more compelling if patsy’s jacket fibers weren’t found all over each element of staging, including the garrote and pineapple bowl (which also contained burkes fingerprints), if she hadn’t written the ransom note (and the draft ransom note), if the murder hadn’t been conducted with materials from around the family home that only someone who lived there would really know where to find, if jonbenet didn’t have signs of prior sexual assault, if an abduction hadn’t been staged only to find the body in the house, if Burke hadn’t been heard on the 911 call despite parents claiming he was asleep, and so many other things that incriminate the family here.

People keep grasping to an intruder with no trace or a trace fragment of DNA and ignoring the Ramsey elephants in every room of that house.

There is no Ramsey smoking gun as much as you wish there was. Its all circumstantial. And ass in bumbling cops and it’s a mess.

The cops certainly bungled the investigation but yes the Ramseys fingerprints and fibers were all over each important piece of evidence in the timeline of jonbenets death. Even if the evidence is circumstantial, there’s actually a story to be made based on the evidence, as opposed to just saying “well, a door was unlocked (was it?) so it had to be an intruder who lingered for hours and then left without a trace and left zero evidence.”

They were items in their home. Of course there finger prints would be on things. It’s been 25 years or so. Nothing is going to happen. The police don’t care to solve this.

Their fingerprints were all over items related to her MURDER and coverup. If they’d been sleeping like they said, that wouldn’t be the case. God

Those are their items and an intruder could have been wearing gloves. This isn’t the slam dunk you seem to think it is. I mean, come on, they would have arrested them decades ago if it was.

If the garrote and the bowl of pineapple were their items, we’ve got a problem.

Is a bowl in your house not your item? Would it not have your fingerprints all over it if you put it away on a shelf?

Possibly, but it probably wouldn’t have my nine year old son’s fingerprints on it if he was allegedly asleep when said pineapple was consumed, and the rest of the night.

And the spoon in the pineapple was a sterling silver serving spoon from a fine China set. It had probably been hand washed after a Christmas meal and a child had taken it to serve themselves a snack.

Anyone who thinks an intruder did this with the amount of utilization of household items and family fingerprints is undertaking some serious mental gymnastics.

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Anonymous wrote:An intruder comes with weapons and ransom notes already prepared. They aren’t rummaging through the house to sit down and make a garrot, find a pad and pen to write and then rewrite a ransom note, find a paintbrush and train tracks, and a flashlight.

I watched a tv show on Phroggers and it was terrifying! This one guy had been stalking a woman for almost a year and would sneak into her house, hide under her bed, and lie in wait for her to come home and go to sleep. He'd then sit and admire her while she slept and sneak out before she woke the next morning. It went on for months.

Another couple kept finding items disturbed in their home that they couldn't explain and at first thought the old owner/some random neighbor had a key and were doing to mess with them even though realtor assured them the locks had been changed before they moved in. They changed the locks again and still got the creepy feeling that someone had been in their space, so they set up cameras in each room and caught a phrogger. The guy would come out during the day when they left and enjoy the house. He hid himself in the evening before they got back from work. I think he lived in a portioned part of the basement or a small crawlspace/closet.

And everyone keeps ignoring the fact that there was a serial rapist in Boulder around that time who liked to break into the house while people were out and wait.

And I’ll add to your experience, I’ve seen tons of true crime where serial rapists and serial killers love to come into the house when no one is there with no intention of killing or raping, it’s part of their thrill… They keep ramping it up over weeks and months and it an escalates until they finally are able to rape or kill the victim. This is common.

Given that there was something like seven unlocked doors and windows, and they had never repaired the broken window for months earlier, and they didn’t set their alarm, this was just not concerned about security.

That would all be more compelling if patsy’s jacket fibers weren’t found all over each element of staging, including the garrote and pineapple bowl (which also contained burkes fingerprints), if she hadn’t written the ransom note (and the draft ransom note), if the murder hadn’t been conducted with materials from around the family home that only someone who lived there would really know where to find, if jonbenet didn’t have signs of prior sexual assault, if an abduction hadn’t been staged only to find the body in the house, if Burke hadn’t been heard on the 911 call despite parents claiming he was asleep, and so many other things that incriminate the family here.

People keep grasping to an intruder with no trace or a trace fragment of DNA and ignoring the Ramsey elephants in every room of that house.

There is no Ramsey smoking gun as much as you wish there was. Its all circumstantial. And ass in bumbling cops and it’s a mess.

The cops certainly bungled the investigation but yes the Ramseys fingerprints and fibers were all over each important piece of evidence in the timeline of jonbenets death. Even if the evidence is circumstantial, there’s actually a story to be made based on the evidence, as opposed to just saying “well, a door was unlocked (was it?) so it had to be an intruder who lingered for hours and then left without a trace and left zero evidence.”

They were items in their home. Of course there finger prints would be on things. It’s been 25 years or so. Nothing is going to happen. The police don’t care to solve this.

Their fingerprints were all over items related to her MURDER and coverup. If they’d been sleeping like they said, that wouldn’t be the case. God

Those are their items and an intruder could have been wearing gloves. This isn’t the slam dunk you seem to think it is. I mean, come on, they would have arrested them decades ago if it was.

If the garrote and the bowl of pineapple were their items, we’ve got a problem.

Is a bowl in your house not your item? Would it not have your fingerprints all over it if you put it away on a shelf?

Possibly, but it probably wouldn’t have my nine year old son’s fingerprints on it if he was allegedly asleep when said pineapple was consumed, and the rest of the night.

And the spoon in the pineapple was a sterling silver serving spoon from a fine China set. It had probably been hand washed after a Christmas meal and a child had taken it to serve themselves a snack.

Anyone who thinks an intruder did this with the amount of utilization of household items and family fingerprints is undertaking some serious mental gymnastics.

Oh, and next to the bowl of pineapple was a glass with a tea bag which had burkes fingerprints on it. I mean, come on people.

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The longest random note ever… on mom’s stationary…for a girl left killed in the basement.

People have screw loose if they don’t think the family did this.

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Is this why this case went on so long? The family members continuing to interject that it wasn't them? It was obviously them.