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Anonymous wrote:My kid is really disappointed. With good grades, 100% on all and high MAP scores 99 percentile, not even got into 1 and wait pooled for 2. My kid definitely knows kids who got in definitely have very very low MAP scores and have even got B's. This make it very sad for the hard working child and feels depressed. DC doesn't want to go to school due to the boastings the other kids do in school. They should look at scores and test in class and the MAP scores if they don't have any administer cogat tests. This is where they do on their own. If it was depending on the essay, for the essays parents or any external sources could have helped too. it is not their original work.
Knowing the type of kids who got in we know for sure it will be hard for them to survive in these programs, even in middle school where grading is easy they could not get good grades. Sometimes my kid is even wondering was there any errors as to why DC was not selected.
Question: If a kid who got in but is not that much suitable for the program and they decide to drop after a year, will they give the open seat to another deserving child in 10th grade or it is gone is gone.

I'm sorry. Your kid is obviously hard working and will be successful no matter where they are. We know two kids who are saying no to Blair and yes to another magnet so maybe your child will get a spot. Just remember that the kid who got in with the Bs didn't steal a spot, they applied and for whatever reason the admission people felt the child could handle the program. The problem is the amount of seats available... Good luck, I'm sorry your child is feeling sad and I hope they get in when spots free up this spring. I don't think they allow entry to the program after 9th grade unfortunately.

So one spot in that class room will get wasted where it can be filled by a deserving kid?

Unfortunately you can't join in 10th. A lot of the required SMAC coursework comes in the first two years. The classes are completely different from those offered at other high schools, and many of them build on each other. Even classes like Chemistry and Physics, which are offered at every high school, don't have the 1-semester, full-credit option elsewhere.

Also, I know you're disappointed for your kid, but please think about the way you are phrasing this. The "wasted" spot also belonged to a "deserving kid," and while most kids who start at Blair SMAC complete the program, there are any number of reasons why a child might leave.

Actually I think Blair offers Honors Bio/Chem for regular 9th graders, which is a good option for CAP kids who are STEM-focused or come from the TPMS program.

Blair offers AP Physics for 9th graders in Algebra2.

Magnet 9th graders take Physics 1st semester and Chem 2nd semester. Not AP. It is a whole year of each, compressed into 1 semester.

The CAP 9th Graders who are in Algebra 2 are recommended for AP Physics 1. Hard class.

Shouldn't most of the CAP kids be in Pre-Cal in 9th...

No the advanced track is Algebra 2 in grade 9. It is very rare for 9th graders to take pre calculus, only if they took Algebra 1 in grade 6.

No, advanced track is Algebra 1 in 6ths/Pre-Cal in 9th. It's not very rare. We have about a dozen kids in our grade on that track.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is really disappointed. With good grades, 100% on all and high MAP scores 99 percentile, not even got into 1 and wait pooled for 2. My kid definitely knows kids who got in definitely have very very low MAP scores and have even got B's. This make it very sad for the hard working child and feels depressed. DC doesn't want to go to school due to the boastings the other kids do in school. They should look at scores and test in class and the MAP scores if they don't have any administer cogat tests. This is where they do on their own. If it was depending on the essay, for the essays parents or any external sources could have helped too. it is not their original work.
Knowing the type of kids who got in we know for sure it will be hard for them to survive in these programs, even in middle school where grading is easy they could not get good grades. Sometimes my kid is even wondering was there any errors as to why DC was not selected.
Question: If a kid who got in but is not that much suitable for the program and they decide to drop after a year, will they give the open seat to another deserving child in 10th grade or it is gone is gone.

I'm sorry. Your kid is obviously hard working and will be successful no matter where they are. We know two kids who are saying no to Blair and yes to another magnet so maybe your child will get a spot. Just remember that the kid who got in with the Bs didn't steal a spot, they applied and for whatever reason the admission people felt the child could handle the program. The problem is the amount of seats available... Good luck, I'm sorry your child is feeling sad and I hope they get in when spots free up this spring. I don't think they allow entry to the program after 9th grade unfortunately.

So one spot in that class room will get wasted where it can be filled by a deserving kid?

Unfortunately you can't join in 10th. A lot of the required SMAC coursework comes in the first two years. The classes are completely different from those offered at other high schools, and many of them build on each other. Even classes like Chemistry and Physics, which are offered at every high school, don't have the 1-semester, full-credit option elsewhere.

Also, I know you're disappointed for your kid, but please think about the way you are phrasing this. The "wasted" spot also belonged to a "deserving kid," and while most kids who start at Blair SMAC complete the program, there are any number of reasons why a child might leave.

Actually I think Blair offers Honors Bio/Chem for regular 9th graders, which is a good option for CAP kids who are STEM-focused or come from the TPMS program.

Blair offers AP Physics for 9th graders in Algebra2.

Magnet 9th graders take Physics 1st semester and Chem 2nd semester. Not AP. It is a whole year of each, compressed into 1 semester.

The CAP 9th Graders who are in Algebra 2 are recommended for AP Physics 1. Hard class.

Shouldn't most of the CAP kids be in Pre-Cal in 9th...

No the advanced track is Algebra 2 in grade 9. It is very rare for 9th graders to take pre calculus, only if they took Algebra 1 in grade 6.

No, advanced track is Algebra 1 in 6ths/Pre-Cal in 9th. It's not very rare. We have about a dozen kids in our grade on that track.

Most MCPS middle schools do not allow this, so no most grade 9 students across MCPS and in CAP are not in Precalculus.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is really disappointed. With good grades, 100% on all and high MAP scores 99 percentile, not even got into 1 and wait pooled for 2. My kid definitely knows kids who got in definitely have very very low MAP scores and have even got B's. This make it very sad for the hard working child and feels depressed. DC doesn't want to go to school due to the boastings the other kids do in school. They should look at scores and test in class and the MAP scores if they don't have any administer cogat tests. This is where they do on their own. If it was depending on the essay, for the essays parents or any external sources could have helped too. it is not their original work.
Knowing the type of kids who got in we know for sure it will be hard for them to survive in these programs, even in middle school where grading is easy they could not get good grades. Sometimes my kid is even wondering was there any errors as to why DC was not selected.
Question: If a kid who got in but is not that much suitable for the program and they decide to drop after a year, will they give the open seat to another deserving child in 10th grade or it is gone is gone.

I'm sorry. Your kid is obviously hard working and will be successful no matter where they are. We know two kids who are saying no to Blair and yes to another magnet so maybe your child will get a spot. Just remember that the kid who got in with the Bs didn't steal a spot, they applied and for whatever reason the admission people felt the child could handle the program. The problem is the amount of seats available... Good luck, I'm sorry your child is feeling sad and I hope they get in when spots free up this spring. I don't think they allow entry to the program after 9th grade unfortunately.

So one spot in that class room will get wasted where it can be filled by a deserving kid?

Unfortunately you can't join in 10th. A lot of the required SMAC coursework comes in the first two years. The classes are completely different from those offered at other high schools, and many of them build on each other. Even classes like Chemistry and Physics, which are offered at every high school, don't have the 1-semester, full-credit option elsewhere.

Also, I know you're disappointed for your kid, but please think about the way you are phrasing this. The "wasted" spot also belonged to a "deserving kid," and while most kids who start at Blair SMAC complete the program, there are any number of reasons why a child might leave.

Actually I think Blair offers Honors Bio/Chem for regular 9th graders, which is a good option for CAP kids who are STEM-focused or come from the TPMS program.

Blair offers AP Physics for 9th graders in Algebra2.

Magnet 9th graders take Physics 1st semester and Chem 2nd semester. Not AP. It is a whole year of each, compressed into 1 semester.

The CAP 9th Graders who are in Algebra 2 are recommended for AP Physics 1. Hard class.

Shouldn't most of the CAP kids be in Pre-Cal in 9th...

No the advanced track is Algebra 2 in grade 9. It is very rare for 9th graders to take pre calculus, only if they took Algebra 1 in grade 6.

No, advanced track is Algebra 1 in 6ths/Pre-Cal in 9th. It's not very rare. We have about a dozen kids in our grade on that track.

Most MCPS middle schools do not allow this, so no most grade 9 students across MCPS and in CAP are not in Precalculus.

Every school has different options but you saying its the most advanced track and its not.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is really disappointed. With good grades, 100% on all and high MAP scores 99 percentile, not even got into 1 and wait pooled for 2. My kid definitely knows kids who got in definitely have very very low MAP scores and have even got B's. This make it very sad for the hard working child and feels depressed. DC doesn't want to go to school due to the boastings the other kids do in school. They should look at scores and test in class and the MAP scores if they don't have any administer cogat tests. This is where they do on their own. If it was depending on the essay, for the essays parents or any external sources could have helped too. it is not their original work.
Knowing the type of kids who got in we know for sure it will be hard for them to survive in these programs, even in middle school where grading is easy they could not get good grades. Sometimes my kid is even wondering was there any errors as to why DC was not selected.
Question: If a kid who got in but is not that much suitable for the program and they decide to drop after a year, will they give the open seat to another deserving child in 10th grade or it is gone is gone.

I'm sorry. Your kid is obviously hard working and will be successful no matter where they are. We know two kids who are saying no to Blair and yes to another magnet so maybe your child will get a spot. Just remember that the kid who got in with the Bs didn't steal a spot, they applied and for whatever reason the admission people felt the child could handle the program. The problem is the amount of seats available... Good luck, I'm sorry your child is feeling sad and I hope they get in when spots free up this spring. I don't think they allow entry to the program after 9th grade unfortunately.

So one spot in that class room will get wasted where it can be filled by a deserving kid?

Unfortunately you can't join in 10th. A lot of the required SMAC coursework comes in the first two years. The classes are completely different from those offered at other high schools, and many of them build on each other. Even classes like Chemistry and Physics, which are offered at every high school, don't have the 1-semester, full-credit option elsewhere.

Also, I know you're disappointed for your kid, but please think about the way you are phrasing this. The "wasted" spot also belonged to a "deserving kid," and while most kids who start at Blair SMAC complete the program, there are any number of reasons why a child might leave.

Actually I think Blair offers Honors Bio/Chem for regular 9th graders, which is a good option for CAP kids who are STEM-focused or come from the TPMS program.

Blair offers AP Physics for 9th graders in Algebra2.

Magnet 9th graders take Physics 1st semester and Chem 2nd semester. Not AP. It is a whole year of each, compressed into 1 semester.

The CAP 9th Graders who are in Algebra 2 are recommended for AP Physics 1. Hard class.

Shouldn't most of the CAP kids be in Pre-Cal in 9th...

No the advanced track is Algebra 2 in grade 9. It is very rare for 9th graders to take pre calculus, only if they took Algebra 1 in grade 6.

No, advanced track is Algebra 1 in 6ths/Pre-Cal in 9th. It's not very rare. We have about a dozen kids in our grade on that track.

Only available to students from the wealthy Potomac schools that offer that type of acceleration in ES.

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Anonymous wrote:I teach at the college level, and I hate students' obsession with grades. The focus on all As is producing a culture where kids are afraid to think for themselves, to take risks, think outside the box. It is ok to get Bs and even Cs. In fact at the college level students will find their tools and strategies for pursuing all As will actually be a detriment to them. There is also the issue that their worth and identity is so wrapped up in being a straight A student that when they get their first B or (horrors) C they completely fall apart.

You need the grades to get into magnet and decent colleges now.

It's not all about grades.

Right so then why did some of our well rounded all a kids not get selected?

The PP you’re quoting literally said “It’s not all about grades.” If it was all about grades, maybe your all A kid would have been selected over my (and other PP’s) mostly A kids.

It's not all about grades, it's about grades plus a little extra. But, contrary to what the college-level teacher might think, if a student does get a C on their transcript, their chances of getting in a good college are practically annihilated. Unless said student is an Olympic champion or some kind of a refugee. So it's not that the kids are so shallow and vain, it's the game they are forced to play.

I understand you think that's how it works, but I promise you it's not how it works. Not unless your kid is trying to get into Harvard or Stanford, and guess what, students with Bs and Cs on their high school transcript get into those schools too. Colleges was interesting students with a love of learning. You can't teach a love of learning into a kid, it has to come intrinsically, but you sure as heck can get a kid to fall out of love for learning by making it all about grades and ivies.

Ain't gonna happen if it is an Asian kid who gets the B's and C's. We have to be pretty much academically flawless if we even have to have a decent chance of having the admissions committee look at our application.

That must be true for anyone since the pselection rocess is race blind.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is really disappointed. With good grades, 100% on all and high MAP scores 99 percentile, not even got into 1 and wait pooled for 2. My kid definitely knows kids who got in definitely have very very low MAP scores and have even got B's. This make it very sad for the hard working child and feels depressed. DC doesn't want to go to school due to the boastings the other kids do in school. They should look at scores and test in class and the MAP scores if they don't have any administer cogat tests. This is where they do on their own. If it was depending on the essay, for the essays parents or any external sources could have helped too. it is not their original work.
Knowing the type of kids who got in we know for sure it will be hard for them to survive in these programs, even in middle school where grading is easy they could not get good grades. Sometimes my kid is even wondering was there any errors as to why DC was not selected.
Question: If a kid who got in but is not that much suitable for the program and they decide to drop after a year, will they give the open seat to another deserving child in 10th grade or it is gone is gone.

I'm sorry. Your kid is obviously hard working and will be successful no matter where they are. We know two kids who are saying no to Blair and yes to another magnet so maybe your child will get a spot. Just remember that the kid who got in with the Bs didn't steal a spot, they applied and for whatever reason the admission people felt the child could handle the program. The problem is the amount of seats available... Good luck, I'm sorry your child is feeling sad and I hope they get in when spots free up this spring. I don't think they allow entry to the program after 9th grade unfortunately.

So one spot in that class room will get wasted where it can be filled by a deserving kid?

Unfortunately you can't join in 10th. A lot of the required SMAC coursework comes in the first two years. The classes are completely different from those offered at other high schools, and many of them build on each other. Even classes like Chemistry and Physics, which are offered at every high school, don't have the 1-semester, full-credit option elsewhere.

Also, I know you're disappointed for your kid, but please think about the way you are phrasing this. The "wasted" spot also belonged to a "deserving kid," and while most kids who start at Blair SMAC complete the program, there are any number of reasons why a child might leave.

Actually I think Blair offers Honors Bio/Chem for regular 9th graders, which is a good option for CAP kids who are STEM-focused or come from the TPMS program.

Blair offers AP Physics for 9th graders in Algebra2.

Magnet 9th graders take Physics 1st semester and Chem 2nd semester. Not AP. It is a whole year of each, compressed into 1 semester.

The CAP 9th Graders who are in Algebra 2 are recommended for AP Physics 1. Hard class.

Shouldn't most of the CAP kids be in Pre-Cal in 9th...

No and eligibility for physics is unrelated to the cap program

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Anonymous wrote:I teach at the college level, and I hate students' obsession with grades. The focus on all As is producing a culture where kids are afraid to think for themselves, to take risks, think outside the box. It is ok to get Bs and even Cs. In fact at the college level students will find their tools and strategies for pursuing all As will actually be a detriment to them. There is also the issue that their worth and identity is so wrapped up in being a straight A student that when they get their first B or (horrors) C they completely fall apart.

You need the grades to get into magnet and decent colleges now.

It's not all about grades.

That is hilarious. See the average SAT score by race of admitted students in colleges and tell me that the admissions are race blind.

Right so then why did some of our well rounded all a kids not get selected?

The PP you’re quoting literally said “It’s not all about grades.” If it was all about grades, maybe your all A kid would have been selected over my (and other PP’s) mostly A kids.

It's not all about grades, it's about grades plus a little extra. But, contrary to what the college-level teacher might think, if a student does get a C on their transcript, their chances of getting in a good college are practically annihilated. Unless said student is an Olympic champion or some kind of a refugee. So it's not that the kids are so shallow and vain, it's the game they are forced to play.

I understand you think that's how it works, but I promise you it's not how it works. Not unless your kid is trying to get into Harvard or Stanford, and guess what, students with Bs and Cs on their high school transcript get into those schools too. Colleges was interesting students with a love of learning. You can't teach a love of learning into a kid, it has to come intrinsically, but you sure as heck can get a kid to fall out of love for learning by making it all about grades and ivies.

Ain't gonna happen if it is an Asian kid who gets the B's and C's. We have to be pretty much academically flawless if we even have to have a decent chance of having the admissions committee look at our application.

That must be true for anyone since the pselection rocess is race blind.

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Alg 1 in 6th used to be fairly common before they changed math curriculum. TPMS used to have Magnet Alg 2. Kids in other schools would go to their local HS for Alg 2, it was not uncommon.

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Anonymous wrote:Alg 1 in 6th used to be fairly common before they changed math curriculum. TPMS used to have Magnet Alg 2. Kids in other schools would go to their local HS for Alg 2, it was not uncommon.

Last I knew TPMS still had a class of Alg2 kids because so many of the Potomac kids at TPMS had taken AIM in 5th.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is really disappointed. With good grades, 100% on all and high MAP scores 99 percentile, not even got into 1 and wait pooled for 2. My kid definitely knows kids who got in definitely have very very low MAP scores and have even got B's. This make it very sad for the hard working child and feels depressed. DC doesn't want to go to school due to the boastings the other kids do in school. They should look at scores and test in class and the MAP scores if they don't have any administer cogat tests. This is where they do on their own. If it was depending on the essay, for the essays parents or any external sources could have helped too. it is not their original work.
Knowing the type of kids who got in we know for sure it will be hard for them to survive in these programs, even in middle school where grading is easy they could not get good grades. Sometimes my kid is even wondering was there any errors as to why DC was not selected.
Question: If a kid who got in but is not that much suitable for the program and they decide to drop after a year, will they give the open seat to another deserving child in 10th grade or it is gone is gone.

I'm sorry. Your kid is obviously hard working and will be successful no matter where they are. We know two kids who are saying no to Blair and yes to another magnet so maybe your child will get a spot. Just remember that the kid who got in with the Bs didn't steal a spot, they applied and for whatever reason the admission people felt the child could handle the program. The problem is the amount of seats available... Good luck, I'm sorry your child is feeling sad and I hope they get in when spots free up this spring. I don't think they allow entry to the program after 9th grade unfortunately.

So one spot in that class room will get wasted where it can be filled by a deserving kid?

Unfortunately you can't join in 10th. A lot of the required SMAC coursework comes in the first two years. The classes are completely different from those offered at other high schools, and many of them build on each other. Even classes like Chemistry and Physics, which are offered at every high school, don't have the 1-semester, full-credit option elsewhere.

Also, I know you're disappointed for your kid, but please think about the way you are phrasing this. The "wasted" spot also belonged to a "deserving kid," and while most kids who start at Blair SMAC complete the program, there are any number of reasons why a child might leave.

Actually I think Blair offers Honors Bio/Chem for regular 9th graders, which is a good option for CAP kids who are STEM-focused or come from the TPMS program.

Blair offers AP Physics for 9th graders in Algebra2.

Magnet 9th graders take Physics 1st semester and Chem 2nd semester. Not AP. It is a whole year of each, compressed into 1 semester.

The CAP 9th Graders who are in Algebra 2 are recommended for AP Physics 1. Hard class.

Shouldn't most of the CAP kids be in Pre-Cal in 9th...

No the advanced track is Algebra 2 in grade 9. It is very rare for 9th graders to take pre calculus, only if they took Algebra 1 in grade 6.

No, advanced track is Algebra 1 in 6ths/Pre-Cal in 9th. It's not very rare. We have about a dozen kids in our grade on that track.

DP. No, not in many MCPS schools. Our CES (hgc back then) did not let anyone move ahead of the track that starts Alg 1 in 7th. It was the highest possible track. There were a few schools that did let students do this, but there were not many. Things may have changed in the last 5 years, though.

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Anonymous wrote:Alg 1 in 6th used to be fairly common before they changed math curriculum. TPMS used to have Magnet Alg 2. Kids in other schools would go to their local HS for Alg 2, it was not uncommon.

Last I knew TPMS still had a class of Alg2 kids because so many of the Potomac kids at TPMS had taken AIM in 5th.

They didn't 2 years ago. Curriculum 2.0 reset everything, and most schools would not advance kids past a track that has Geom as top class for 8th. The few kids whose ESs let them move ahead bused over to Blair for Alg 2 or pre calc or functions. There was no Alg2 class 2017-2020 for sure. Mine was the first of the 2.0, so things were certainly different prior to that and may be changing again. I know there have been a few revisions along the way.

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Anonymous wrote:Alg 1 in 6th used to be fairly common before they changed math curriculum. TPMS used to have Magnet Alg 2. Kids in other schools would go to their local HS for Alg 2, it was not uncommon.

Last I knew TPMS still had a class of Alg2 kids because so many of the Potomac kids at TPMS had taken AIM in 5th.

They didn't 2 years ago. Curriculum 2.0 reset everything, and most schools would not advance kids past a track that has Geom as top class for 8th. The few kids whose ESs let them move ahead bused over to Blair for Alg 2 or pre calc or functions. There was no Alg2 class 2017-2020 for sure. Mine was the first of the 2.0, so things were certainly different prior to that and may be changing again. I know there have been a few revisions along the way.

My experience was from a few years back, so I can't say. I know there are kids who are well above grade level there today, but for all, I know, they are bussed to Blair like you suggested.

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Anonymous wrote:I teach at the college level, and I hate students' obsession with grades. The focus on all As is producing a culture where kids are afraid to think for themselves, to take risks, think outside the box. It is ok to get Bs and even Cs. In fact at the college level students will find their tools and strategies for pursuing all As will actually be a detriment to them. There is also the issue that their worth and identity is so wrapped up in being a straight A student that when they get their first B or (horrors) C they completely fall apart.

You need the grades to get into magnet and decent colleges now.

It's not all about grades.

Right so then why did some of our well rounded all a kids not get selected?

The PP you’re quoting literally said “It’s not all about grades.” If it was all about grades, maybe your all A kid would have been selected over my (and other PP’s) mostly A kids.

It's not all about grades, it's about grades plus a little extra. But, contrary to what the college-level teacher might think, if a student does get a C on their transcript, their chances of getting in a good college are practically annihilated. Unless said student is an Olympic champion or some kind of a refugee. So it's not that the kids are so shallow and vain, it's the game they are forced to play.

I understand you think that's how it works, but I promise you it's not how it works. Not unless your kid is trying to get into Harvard or Stanford, and guess what, students with Bs and Cs on their high school transcript get into those schools too. Colleges was interesting students with a love of learning. You can't teach a love of learning into a kid, it has to come intrinsically, but you sure as heck can get a kid to fall out of love for learning by making it all about grades and ivies.

Ain't gonna happen if it is an Asian kid who gets the B's and C's. We have to be pretty much academically flawless if we even have to have a decent chance of having the admissions committee look at our application.

Vast majority of kids at the accepted student open house for Blair last night were Asian. Like 80 percent. Way being representation in the population. I wonder where all these race based complaints come from. It really should be the black kids, the Latino kids and even the white kids who are complaining.

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Anonymous wrote:I teach at the college level, and I hate students' obsession with grades. The focus on all As is producing a culture where kids are afraid to think for themselves, to take risks, think outside the box. It is ok to get Bs and even Cs. In fact at the college level students will find their tools and strategies for pursuing all As will actually be a detriment to them. There is also the issue that their worth and identity is so wrapped up in being a straight A student that when they get their first B or (horrors) C they completely fall apart.

You need the grades to get into magnet and decent colleges now.

It's not all about grades.

Right so then why did some of our well rounded all a kids not get selected?

The PP you’re quoting literally said “It’s not all about grades.” If it was all about grades, maybe your all A kid would have been selected over my (and other PP’s) mostly A kids.

It's not all about grades, it's about grades plus a little extra. But, contrary to what the college-level teacher might think, if a student does get a C on their transcript, their chances of getting in a good college are practically annihilated. Unless said student is an Olympic champion or some kind of a refugee. So it's not that the kids are so shallow and vain, it's the game they are forced to play.

I understand you think that's how it works, but I promise you it's not how it works. Not unless your kid is trying to get into Harvard or Stanford, and guess what, students with Bs and Cs on their high school transcript get into those schools too. Colleges was interesting students with a love of learning. You can't teach a love of learning into a kid, it has to come intrinsically, but you sure as heck can get a kid to fall out of love for learning by making it all about grades and ivies.

Ain't gonna happen if it is an Asian kid who gets the B's and C's. We have to be pretty much academically flawless if we even have to have a decent chance of having the admissions committee look at our application.

Vast majority of kids at the accepted student open house for Blair last night were Asian. Like 80 percent. Way being representation in the population. I wonder where all these race based complaints come from. It really should be the black kids, the Latino kids and even the white kids who are complaining.

That's because HS admits are still based on merit and not some BS lottery like MS magnet admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:I teach at the college level, and I hate students' obsession with grades. The focus on all As is producing a culture where kids are afraid to think for themselves, to take risks, think outside the box. It is ok to get Bs and even Cs. In fact at the college level students will find their tools and strategies for pursuing all As will actually be a detriment to them. There is also the issue that their worth and identity is so wrapped up in being a straight A student that when they get their first B or (horrors) C they completely fall apart.

You need the grades to get into magnet and decent colleges now.

It's not all about grades.

Right so then why did some of our well rounded all a kids not get selected?

The PP you’re quoting literally said “It’s not all about grades.” If it was all about grades, maybe your all A kid would have been selected over my (and other PP’s) mostly A kids.

It's not all about grades, it's about grades plus a little extra. But, contrary to what the college-level teacher might think, if a student does get a C on their transcript, their chances of getting in a good college are practically annihilated. Unless said student is an Olympic champion or some kind of a refugee. So it's not that the kids are so shallow and vain, it's the game they are forced to play.

I understand you think that's how it works, but I promise you it's not how it works. Not unless your kid is trying to get into Harvard or Stanford, and guess what, students with Bs and Cs on their high school transcript get into those schools too. Colleges was interesting students with a love of learning. You can't teach a love of learning into a kid, it has to come intrinsically, but you sure as heck can get a kid to fall out of love for learning by making it all about grades and ivies.

Ain't gonna happen if it is an Asian kid who gets the B's and C's. We have to be pretty much academically flawless if we even have to have a decent chance of having the admissions committee look at our application.

Vast majority of kids at the accepted student open house for Blair last night were Asian. Like 80 percent. Way being representation in the population. I wonder where all these race based complaints come from. It really should be the black kids, the Latino kids and even the white kids who are complaining.

That's because HS admits are still based on merit and not some BS lottery like MS magnet admissions.

Multiple posters in this thread have claimed that there is bias in the admissions process against Asian applicants and in favor of white kids. BS.