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Anonymous wrote:Are they broke? Does anyone else agree that when a person does a tell all style memoir it’s because they desperately need money and this is like the last bit of themselves they have to give? The next step of desperation would be doing a sex tape. Given that they are/were royals they shouldn’t have had an expiration date on their popularity and need to sell out so badly so soon. I’m guessing that they have been cut off financially by the family and Harry isn’t capable of being a businessman or a consultant even in name only.

Obviously they live an incredibly expensive lifestyle. Harry said Charles cut him off in the Oprah interview. They could have lived quietly, but still very well, on Diana's inheritance and Meghan's savings, but clearly wanted a more extravagant celebrity lifestyle. Choices.

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My conclusion is that there's something wrong with all of them and Harry probably should be medicated.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate sounds cold and uptight. That’s about it.

Cold and uptight? Because she minds Meghan (at the time, not a mother) telling Kate that she has “baby brain?” Because, she doesn’t want to be casual BFFs with Meghan who is nice to those she considers her equals but rude to those below her?

I read in one of Kate's profiles that she's a very guarded person who's had a strong circle of friends she's known for many years plus family support, and that's where her safe ground is. She does not make new friends easily or fast. Perhaps Meghan expected they would be fast BFFs who share EVERYTHING, and Kate just wasn't having it, as she preferred to wait and see what this girl is all about. Of course, she was proved entirely right.

As a formerly middleclass person, Kate is probably very scrupulously (because she's aware of constant scrutiny) polite with her staff. All that American ordering around didn't land well.

She's been involved with William since she was a teen and had to watch every step and question everyone's intentions, its probably a part of her personality. One misstep and she becomes media fodder.

Where do you get to assume this was the case? Kate seems like a snobbish prude. Meghan probably didnt care anything about her outside of being a pleasant SIL.

But you never read anything about Kate being rude to staff, outside of her housekeeper and gardener quitting in the early days because she did too much herself.

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And they’ve had the same nanny since George was born.

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Kate being uptight sounds about right. So was QE2 — I think it’s the best way to survive that grinder. Diana was not cold and uptight enough — it ate her alive. Fergie was famously warm and bubbly and she was a basic disaster.
I think a bit part of Megan’s problem is that she thought she could portray this warm open persona and then close that door for privacy. It doesn’t work that way there. It reminds me of the queens advice to someone — never hold hands in public because the first time you aren’t holding hands, they will make it headline news. They will use whatever you give them so give them nothing to work with except bland propriety.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh, I have the exact opposite opinion of them both. And in the end, the RF looks petty and vindictive, as they usually do. The RF sycophants on here are hilarious as well as ignorant of all of the things that family has done that are self-serving, racist, hateful, vindictive to members of their own family. It's laughable, actually. H and M's treatment fits that pattern and is why I believe it. Good for them for giving them the middle finger.

Same. I think a lot of people aren't royal watchers aside from "let's see the wedding dress" are hearing the most recent stuff and think Harry's the good guy.

Royal watchers aren't normal and have to accept that the majority of people aren't enthralled by these people the way they are.

The majority of people I have seen online are like me - not royal family watchers or supporters at all but we started seeing Harry and meghan headlines everywhere = both promoting their stuff and reporting on their stuff and started reading and listening to things. I am sure there are a few ardent RF supporters who don't think the RF can do any wrong but I dont give a fig about the RF and Harry comes across as an immature and petty man. I don't really care about Harry and Meghan either but content on them is being shoved in our faces online 24/7. They are digging their own graves.

Not really. They are online 24/7 right now but give it a week and something else will be there. I don't know these people and they are like any other thing in the media, don't like them, don't care, then click elsewhere, read elsewhere, watch elsewhere. It only takes a second to change over to something else and never see them again.

I can't help but feel secondhand embarrassment for their decisions. I wonder if they just laid low for the next few months...no media interviews, no book releases or social media or podcast or awards ceremony...maybe they could wipe the slate clean a bit? Show up to the coronation with little pomp and circumstance or releases on what she is wearing or what their travel plans are.

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Not a PR expert

I think after this drama, people would be even more interested in watching them at coronation. Its a vulgar reality show. They are doing better than Kardashians.

They were laying low and still posted nasty things about meghan after the Queen's death accusing her of being demanding and all other sorts of drama when she wasnt even there. They make a lot of money with articles about how terrible of a person Meghan is and this will never, ever change. Harry even stated that their of their own press offices will greenlight bad articles about other family members. How/why is this even allowed to happen? Oddly, the american press has no such stories of Meghan being a horrible human either before Harry or now?

Before Harry she was a dime a dozen d list actress nobody cared to write about and now yes, there has been a lot of bad press for her here in America but maybe you are not paying attention to it.

The fact is that M&H are using the mean tabloids and the lack of 'protection' by the palace as one of the reasons they left out of convenience only. The paps were not hounding them. But we cannot really see the protection they did get from the palace because...the stories did not come out. And the stories that did come out were from staff who saw and were affected by her treatment of them.

As we can see from Harry's state of mind with this tell-all, the palace was likely working overtime for years to keep him on the rails.

This person is correct.

Remember the public image Harry used to have before marrying: fun, laid-back, adventurous, bit of a lad, spontaneous, earthy.

Contrast this with reality that's now coming out: angry. resentful. dumb. substance abuser. dumb. academically inferior. out of touch with reality. entitled. deluded.

And consider HOW DAMN HARD the courtiers have worked to paint a picture of him you used to have.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate being uptight sounds about right. So was QE2 — I think it’s the best way to survive that grinder. Diana was not cold and uptight enough — it ate her alive. Fergie was famously warm and bubbly and she was a basic disaster.
I think a bit part of Megan’s problem is that she thought she could portray this warm open persona and then close that door for privacy. It doesn’t work that way there. It reminds me of the queens advice to someone — never hold hands in public because the first time you aren’t holding hands, they will make it headline news. They will use whatever you give them so give them nothing to work with except bland propriety.

But she and Harry have been calculating and taking notes and seeking to take down and destroy these people over petty grievances. That doesn't sound like a genuine open warm person.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate being uptight sounds about right. So was QE2 — I think it’s the best way to survive that grinder. Diana was not cold and uptight enough — it ate her alive. Fergie was famously warm and bubbly and she was a basic disaster.
I think a bit part of Megan’s problem is that she thought she could portray this warm open persona and then close that door for privacy. It doesn’t work that way there. It reminds me of the queens advice to someone — never hold hands in public because the first time you aren’t holding hands, they will make it headline news. They will use whatever you give them so give them nothing to work with except bland propriety.

I'm sure Kate is not uptight with her friends. It sounds like she resented being pushed into the buddy-buddy relationship before she was ready.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh, I have the exact opposite opinion of them both. And in the end, the RF looks petty and vindictive, as they usually do. The RF sycophants on here are hilarious as well as ignorant of all of the things that family has done that are self-serving, racist, hateful, vindictive to members of their own family. It's laughable, actually. H and M's treatment fits that pattern and is why I believe it. Good for them for giving them the middle finger.

Same. I think a lot of people aren't royal watchers aside from "let's see the wedding dress" are hearing the most recent stuff and think Harry's the good guy.

Royal watchers aren't normal and have to accept that the majority of people aren't enthralled by these people the way they are.

The majority of people I have seen online are like me - not royal family watchers or supporters at all but we started seeing Harry and meghan headlines everywhere = both promoting their stuff and reporting on their stuff and started reading and listening to things. I am sure there are a few ardent RF supporters who don't think the RF can do any wrong but I dont give a fig about the RF and Harry comes across as an immature and petty man. I don't really care about Harry and Meghan either but content on them is being shoved in our faces online 24/7. They are digging their own graves.

Agree. I don't understand the sentiment that people who find H&M tiresome and annoying are RF supporters. I admit I like the gossip around the RF, but by no means study or support them. On the other hand, I do get fed up with people who constantly are disgruntled with their lives, seem to think other people owe them, and always place the blame on others. I call my kids out all the time when they start in on the "woe is me" behavior.

Why is anyone disgruntled with THEIR lives a problem or concern of yours ? Unstable much ?

I'm the PP you are responding to. Ummm, obviously their "feelings" are not a concern of mine. And LOL, I am not unstable. But I am allowed my perception of them, just as others who are annoyed by them are allowed their perception of H&M. And that should not be a concern of yours.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there anything good in the book? Is it just a list of grievances or is this miserable SOB grateful or happy about anything in his sorry (privileged) life?

They are scraping the barrel of grievances, we’re at lipgloss level now.

LOL! That was a weird thing to include....I don't know a single 40 year old woman who would ask to borrow lip gloss from another woman.

A lot of the little stories that they shared in the Netflix doc and in the book make me think Meghan does this stuff on purpose. "I hug!" "I wear ripped jeans!" "I talk to my girlfriends like this!"......just feels like she purposely tried to push the envelope to create some narrative of stuffy Brit vs. cool American.

I wonder if the palace is breathing a sigh of relief. They are going to come out winners in all this now that people are seeing what they were dealing with. They don't need to even say anything. The books speaks volumes about Harry, and not in the way he probably hoped.

+1 Having worked in middle schools for many years, the complaints and stories about lip gloss and circumcision and falling on a dog bowl sound very familiar to those of that age group.

He sounds like a classic case of arrested development. His mother's death came at the worst possible time. Maybe William, being a bit older, was better able to move forward.

PP here. Good points. I agree. I also think it's problematic that he's married to a person who also comes from a dysfunctional family. They're ramping up each other's insecurities and emotions.

Bingo. I think they have a very codependent relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate being uptight sounds about right. So was QE2 — I think it’s the best way to survive that grinder. Diana was not cold and uptight enough — it ate her alive. Fergie was famously warm and bubbly and she was a basic disaster.
I think a bit part of Megan’s problem is that she thought she could portray this warm open persona and then close that door for privacy. It doesn’t work that way there. It reminds me of the queens advice to someone — never hold hands in public because the first time you aren’t holding hands, they will make it headline news. They will use whatever you give them so give them nothing to work with except bland propriety.

But she and Harry have been calculating and taking notes and seeking to take down and destroy these people over petty grievances. That doesn't sound like a genuine open warm person.

This was one of the things that struck me in their docuseries - how EARLY they were busy recording and taking notes and gathering material. It doesn't look like genuine behavior in the slightest. Almost like this has been planned from day 1, like Meghan saw the merch potential and was determined to exploit it.

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'Taliban taunts 'big mouth loser' Prince Harry after he revealed he killed 25 enemies in Afghanistan: Islamists say Duke is 'mad' and 'the "chess pieces" now rule after you fled to your grandmother's palace'

I love it!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606051/Furious-Taliban-taunts-big-mouth-loser-Prince-Harry-revealed-killed-25-enemies.html

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Anonymous wrote:If William and Kate do respond, I hope it’s only to vehemently deny the accusation that they used to watch Suits.

Best post on this thread!

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Anonymous wrote:Meh, I have the exact opposite opinion of them both. And in the end, the RF looks petty and vindictive, as they usually do. The RF sycophants on here are hilarious as well as ignorant of all of the things that family has done that are self-serving, racist, hateful, vindictive to members of their own family. It's laughable, actually. H and M's treatment fits that pattern and is why I believe it. Good for them for giving them the middle finger.

Same. I think a lot of people aren't royal watchers aside from "let's see the wedding dress" are hearing the most recent stuff and think Harry's the good guy.

Royal watchers aren't normal and have to accept that the majority of people aren't enthralled by these people the way they are.

The majority of people I have seen online are like me - not royal family watchers or supporters at all but we started seeing Harry and meghan headlines everywhere = both promoting their stuff and reporting on their stuff and started reading and listening to things. I am sure there are a few ardent RF supporters who don't think the RF can do any wrong but I dont give a fig about the RF and Harry comes across as an immature and petty man. I don't really care about Harry and Meghan either but content on them is being shoved in our faces online 24/7. They are digging their own graves.

Not really. They are online 24/7 right now but give it a week and something else will be there. I don't know these people and they are like any other thing in the media, don't like them, don't care, then click elsewhere, read elsewhere, watch elsewhere. It only takes a second to change over to something else and never see them again.

I can't help but feel secondhand embarrassment for their decisions. I wonder if they just laid low for the next few months...no media interviews, no book releases or social media or podcast or awards ceremony...maybe they could wipe the slate clean a bit? Show up to the coronation with little pomp and circumstance or releases on what she is wearing or what their travel plans are.

Signed,
Not a PR expert

I think after this drama, people would be even more interested in watching them at coronation. Its a vulgar reality show. They are doing better than Kardashians.

They were laying low and still posted nasty things about meghan after the Queen's death accusing her of being demanding and all other sorts of drama when she wasnt even there. They make a lot of money with articles about how terrible of a person Meghan is and this will never, ever change. Harry even stated that their of their own press offices will greenlight bad articles about other family members. How/why is this even allowed to happen? Oddly, the american press has no such stories of Meghan being a horrible human either before Harry or now?

The British tabloids are notoriously vicious, regardless of whatever deals may have been struck with the RF press office, but in fact stories of their ongoing difficulty retaining staff continued in the US.

Citation?

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Anonymous wrote:Are they broke? Does anyone else agree that when a person does a tell all style memoir it’s because they desperately need money and this is like the last bit of themselves they have to give? The next step of desperation would be doing a sex tape. Given that they are/were royals they shouldn’t have had an expiration date on their popularity and need to sell out so badly so soon. I’m guessing that they have been cut off financially by the family and Harry isn’t capable of being a businessman or a consultant even in name only.

Obviously they live an incredibly expensive lifestyle. Harry said Charles cut him off in the Oprah interview. They could have lived quietly, but still very well, on Diana's inheritance and Meghan's savings, but clearly wanted a more extravagant celebrity lifestyle. Choices.

What will they have left to sell after this? Harry has already sold the family secrets at 38 and lowered his brand by doing so. This money isn’t going to last their lifetime.

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Anonymous wrote:'Taliban taunts 'big mouth loser' Prince Harry after he revealed he killed 25 enemies in Afghanistan: Islamists say Duke is 'mad' and 'the "chess pieces" now rule after you fled to your grandmother's palace'

I love it!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606051/Furious-Taliban-taunts-big-mouth-loser-Prince-Harry-revealed-killed-25-enemies.html

No need to be gleeful over this. None of it is pretty. It's actually quite sad on all fronts for all concerned.