ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)

That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mention August playing up and many kids in age groups, not just August, are off grade. Going grade year requires a bunch of kids switching teams, some will play up and some will play down.

Showcases going graduation year, "Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches."

Think about it.

In SY all players on the field will be one grade assuming Aug birthdays play up (not down).

This is what USYS means + the way things were pre 2017.

It's ok for Showcases to go graduation year, they are just exhibitions for the players. It's nice the USYS was clear that Showcases will combine players of the same graduating class regardless of age together for Showcases.

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)

That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mention August playing up and many kids in age groups, not just August, are off grade. Going grade year requires a bunch of kids switching teams, some will play up and some will play down.

Showcases going graduation year, "Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches."

Think about it.

In SY all players on the field will be one grade assuming Aug birthdays play up (not down).

This is what USYS means + the way things were pre 2017.

It's ok for Showcases to go graduation year, they are just exhibitions for the players. It's nice the USYS was clear that Showcases will combine players of the same graduating class regardless of age together for Showcases.

Make sense. All problem solved. Aug guy is happy now. Showcase is about a show. Winning is far less important. Everyone graduating the same year can attend. It is like in MLSN fest , There are temporary teams formed by uncommitted players competing against each other

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)

That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mention August playing up and many kids in age groups, not just August, are off grade. Going grade year requires a bunch of kids switching teams, some will play up and some will play down.

Showcases going graduation year, "Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches."

Think about it.

In SY all players on the field will be one grade assuming Aug birthdays play up (not down).

This is what USYS means + the way things were pre 2017.

I find it ridiculous that people are saying Aug-Sept kids playing with their school year, what you call up, is playing up. My DC is an Aug -Sept and has been playing school year, what next year is called playing next “up”, for 8 years. Next year the league says they should go down, outside of school year, and you say they will be playing up for showcases if they play on school year. This means they will be dropped down for all non-showcase events and then be playing with the team they have been playing for almost a decade and you call that playing up. This is nonsense. The new rules place them down, even though they were good enough to play on school year the whole time they have been playing. Then they play down, with lower year skill and are expected to just jump into playing against bigger stronger better kids during showcases, when scouts will be watching, when the whole first part of the year they were playing with younger kids. Just dumb. If they should play on grade for showcases, when it matters, then they should play on grade all year, with their current teams, so they are ready for the showcases.

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)

That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mention August playing up and many kids in age groups, not just August, are off grade. Going grade year requires a bunch of kids switching teams, some will play up and some will play down.

Showcases going graduation year, "Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches."

Think about it.

In SY all players on the field will be one grade assuming Aug birthdays play up (not down).

This is what USYS means + the way things were pre 2017.

I find it ridiculous that people are saying Aug-Sept kids playing with their school year, what you call up, is playing up. My DC is an Aug -Sept and has been playing school year, what next year is called playing next “up”, for 8 years. Next year the league says they should go down, outside of school year, and you say they will be playing up for showcases if they play on school year. This means they will be dropped down for all non-showcase events and then be playing with the team they have been playing for almost a decade and you call that playing up. This is nonsense. The new rules place them down, even though they were good enough to play on school year the whole time they have been playing. Then they play down, with lower year skill and are expected to just jump into playing against bigger stronger better kids during showcases, when scouts will be watching, when the whole first part of the year they were playing with younger kids. Just dumb. If they should play on grade for showcases, when it matters, then they should play on grade all year, with their current teams, so they are ready for the showcases.

I get your frustration, but your DC didn't play on school year the last 8 years. Your DC played in a 12-month window with older/younger players, some of which were the same grade and some of which weren't. Next season, they'll be kids who were playing at a higher level. It'll be different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

Good thing the lightening strikes during lying days are over

[Anonymous]

First, on my kid’s team this affects close to half the kids on the team. Second, because of this, it is not an insubstantial change that affects only a small number of kids. Third, it negatively affects college recruitment for these kids, which is what most parents/kids care about on the girls side, when college recruitment is hard enough already. This is a tragedy for a large number of kids, not just an inconvenience for a couple. I HOPE that the coaches that say they care about recruitment will treat this as SY, otherwise they don’t really care about recruitment. But given the ID announcements, all going Aug-July, except FVU, bravo FVU, I think the college recruitment talk is lip service. FVU may have a lot more additions next year because their IDs allow Aug-Sept kids to sign up to IDs by SY. Which I applaud, and I think is very smart. I think a lot of Aug-Sept kids will switch clubs if their teams push them down outside of their SY. I don’t belong to FVU but I hope they show everyone how stupid these clubs were to arbitrarily kick kids off their SY team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First, on my kid’s team this affects close to half the kids on the team. Second, because of this, it is not an insubstantial change that affects only a small number of kids. Third, it negatively affects college recruitment for these kids, which is what most parents/kids care about on the girls side, when college recruitment is hard enough already. This is a tragedy for a large number of kids, not just an inconvenience for a couple. I HOPE that the coaches that say they care about recruitment will treat this as SY, otherwise they don’t really care about recruitment. But given the ID announcements, all going Aug-July, except FVU, bravo FVU, I think the college recruitment talk is lip service. FVU may have a lot more additions next year because their IDs allow Aug-Sept kids to sign up to IDs by SY. Which I applaud, and I think is very smart. I think a lot of Aug-Sept kids will switch clubs if their teams push them down outside of their SY. I don’t belong to FVU but I hope they show everyone how stupid these clubs were to arbitrarily kick kids off their SY team.

More dramatic than a Spanish soap opera

If your kid's talent and potential had them on the path to college under GY, then nothing changes under SY

If SY change to 8/1 is driving you this batty, then your insecurities is not SY, but your kid's actual talents

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)

That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mention August playing up and many kids in age groups, not just August, are off grade. Going grade year requires a bunch of kids switching teams, some will play up and some will play down.

Showcases going graduation year, "Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches."

Think about it.

In SY all players on the field will be one grade assuming Aug birthdays play up (not down).

This is what USYS means + the way things were pre 2017.

I find it ridiculous that people are saying Aug-Sept kids playing with their school year, what you call up, is playing up. My DC is an Aug -Sept and has been playing school year, what next year is called playing next “up”, for 8 years. Next year the league says they should go down, outside of school year, and you say they will be playing up for showcases if they play on school year. This means they will be dropped down for all non-showcase events and then be playing with the team they have been playing for almost a decade and you call that playing up. This is nonsense. The new rules place them down, even though they were good enough to play on school year the whole time they have been playing. Then they play down, with lower year skill and are expected to just jump into playing against bigger stronger better kids during showcases, when scouts will be watching, when the whole first part of the year they were playing with younger kids. Just dumb. If they should play on grade for showcases, when it matters, then they should play on grade all year, with their current teams, so they are ready for the showcases.

I get your frustration, but your DC didn't play on school year the last 8 years. Your DC played in a 12-month window with older/younger players, some of which were the same grade and some of which weren't. Next season, they'll be kids who were playing at a higher level. It'll be different.

That is the misinformation that is being spread. Almost every person on my DC’s team was in the same SY, thus on grade. The change makes almost half the kids move to non-SY. Let’s start with that as what is happening on the ground. That is a fact. 100% were playing with their classmates, or kids whose parents held them back, but were the same age. Now 50% are negatively impacted. Why should my DC be negatively impacted because they started school on time, played in the right age, with their classmates, because a couple parents held their kid back? Make a smarter rule. SY unless your kid is not in the correct SY, then Aug-Jul, how hard is that? Fixes everyone’s issues and doesn’t hose a bunch of kids. This is stupid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:First, on my kid’s team this affects close to half the kids on the team. Second, because of this, it is not an insubstantial change that affects only a small number of kids. Third, it negatively affects college recruitment for these kids, which is what most parents/kids care about on the girls side, when college recruitment is hard enough already. This is a tragedy for a large number of kids, not just an inconvenience for a couple. I HOPE that the coaches that say they care about recruitment will treat this as SY, otherwise they don’t really care about recruitment. But given the ID announcements, all going Aug-July, except FVU, bravo FVU, I think the college recruitment talk is lip service. FVU may have a lot more additions next year because their IDs allow Aug-Sept kids to sign up to IDs by SY. Which I applaud, and I think is very smart. I think a lot of Aug-Sept kids will switch clubs if their teams push them down outside of their SY. I don’t belong to FVU but I hope they show everyone how stupid these clubs were to arbitrarily kick kids off their SY team.

More dramatic than a Spanish soap opera

If your kid's talent and potential had them on the path to college under GY, then nothing changes under SY

If SY change to 8/1 is driving you this batty, then your insecurities is not SY, but your kid's actual talents

I get it, you can’t argue the points, so you claim I am overdramatic. Just shows you have no real points to make. I am not dramatic. I just think a little thought could have solved all issues. You should try a little thought too, although that may be beyond your capabilities.

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)

That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mention August playing up and many kids in age groups, not just August, are off grade. Going grade year requires a bunch of kids switching teams, some will play up and some will play down.

Showcases going graduation year, "Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches."

Think about it.

In SY all players on the field will be one grade assuming Aug birthdays play up (not down).

This is what USYS means + the way things were pre 2017.

I find it ridiculous that people are saying Aug-Sept kids playing with their school year, what you call up, is playing up. My DC is an Aug -Sept and has been playing school year, what next year is called playing next “up”, for 8 years. Next year the league says they should go down, outside of school year, and you say they will be playing up for showcases if they play on school year. This means they will be dropped down for all non-showcase events and then be playing with the team they have been playing for almost a decade and you call that playing up. This is nonsense. The new rules place them down, even though they were good enough to play on school year the whole time they have been playing. Then they play down, with lower year skill and are expected to just jump into playing against bigger stronger better kids during showcases, when scouts will be watching, when the whole first part of the year they were playing with younger kids. Just dumb. If they should play on grade for showcases, when it matters, then they should play on grade all year, with their current teams, so they are ready for the showcases.

I get your frustration, but your DC didn't play on school year the last 8 years. Your DC played in a 12-month window with older/younger players, some of which were the same grade and some of which weren't. Next season, they'll be kids who were playing at a higher level. It'll be different.

That is the misinformation that is being spread. Almost every person on my DC’s team was in the same SY, thus on grade. The change makes almost half the kids move to non-SY. Let’s start with that as what is happening on the ground. That is a fact. 100% were playing with their classmates, or kids whose parents held them back, but were the same age. Now 50% are negatively impacted. Why should my DC be negatively impacted because they started school on time, played in the right age, with their classmates, because a couple parents held their kid back? Make a smarter rule. SY unless your kid is not in the correct SY, then Aug-Jul, how hard is that? Fixes everyone’s issues and doesn’t hose a bunch of kids. This is stupid.

If they were playing with kids the same age but held back, they were in different grades. Unfortunately the change means pretty much every team has to change across the country. It'll benefit some but others will think it's a big negative. I hope your club listens to your concerns and provides your kid some options OR that another club will provide the flexibility you seek.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This club -- Sporting Blue Valley which offers MLSN and ECNL in Kansas -- doesn't seem to want to deal with grade at all ... From page 15 of their presentation:

"School Grade is Irrelevant: It is much easier to consider the new age-group
placement as relative to the August 1st cutoff and is not tied to their school grade
level (whether they have been held back or are ahead)."

Page 19

"Can players play up a grade level?
SURVEY - Playing Up
SBV will retain the same policy we’ve always had: A player may play up an age
group only if they make the top team in that older division.
❖ Exceptions: Exceptions are rare and reserved for specific Goalkeeper situations
or to combine two small player pools to form a viable team.
Why we aren't delaying the changes:
❖ We have chosen to "rip the Band-Aid off" rather than kick the can down the road.
❖ While we could artificially keep current teams together by moving everyone to
an older age group, we would eventually be forced to fix it.
❖ We believe it is better to realign correctly now. This avoids years of confusion
and temporary fixes, ensuring every player is on the correct long-term
development path immediately"

https://storage.googleapis.com/msgsndr/YNEbnN6f4t8L8P45OAD6/media/6945b18a173966b1e3b3b9c2.pdf

Yep, that's ripping off the band-aid.

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)

That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mention August playing up and many kids in age groups, not just August, are off grade. Going grade year requires a bunch of kids switching teams, some will play up and some will play down.

Showcases going graduation year, "Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches."

Think about it.

In SY all players on the field will be one grade assuming Aug birthdays play up (not down).

This is what USYS means + the way things were pre 2017.

I find it ridiculous that people are saying Aug-Sept kids playing with their school year, what you call up, is playing up. My DC is an Aug -Sept and has been playing school year, what next year is called playing next “up”, for 8 years. Next year the league says they should go down, outside of school year, and you say they will be playing up for showcases if they play on school year. This means they will be dropped down for all non-showcase events and then be playing with the team they have been playing for almost a decade and you call that playing up. This is nonsense. The new rules place them down, even though they were good enough to play on school year the whole time they have been playing. Then they play down, with lower year skill and are expected to just jump into playing against bigger stronger better kids during showcases, when scouts will be watching, when the whole first part of the year they were playing with younger kids. Just dumb. If they should play on grade for showcases, when it matters, then they should play on grade all year, with their current teams, so they are ready for the showcases.

I get your frustration, but your DC didn't play on school year the last 8 years. Your DC played in a 12-month window with older/younger players, some of which were the same grade and some of which weren't. Next season, they'll be kids who were playing at a higher level. It'll be different.

That is the misinformation that is being spread. Almost every person on my DC’s team was in the same SY, thus on grade. The change makes almost half the kids move to non-SY. Let’s start with that as what is happening on the ground. That is a fact. 100% were playing with their classmates, or kids whose parents held them back, but were the same age. Now 50% are negatively impacted. Why should my DC be negatively impacted because they started school on time, played in the right age, with their classmates, because a couple parents held their kid back? Make a smarter rule. SY unless your kid is not in the correct SY, then Aug-Jul, how hard is that? Fixes everyone’s issues and doesn’t hose a bunch of kids. This is stupid.

I dont understand your situation. Which month was your kid born and what is the school cut off in your state? The intention of this change is to have more players to align with school grade. How come it produced the opposite ?

[Anonymous]

For this that dont understand...

GY = All players in a single grade are eligible. Parents skirt the rules by holding their kid back to make them older. Most districts allow you to hold back players two times which usually happens in 8th grade. The end result is 16 year old Freshman.

BY = 1/1-12/31 eligibility. In the US most schools start around Aug and this is also the age group cutoff. What ends up happening is players born between Aug and December are forced to play up on a team with grade older players. BTW the reason BY works for other countries is because schools say if you were born in X year you're in Y grade even if the school starts in August. We make things more complicated with districts using multiple different cutoff dates.

SY = 8/1-7/31 eligibility. This works for most schools because most schools cutoff/start dates are around Aug. The end result is most players on teams are the same grade in school. (much more than BY) The problem with SY is when districts start in Sept or even Oct or November. In this situation you get grade older kids playing on teams where most players are a grade younger. Because you can always play up most clubs in places where districts start in Sept/Oct/Nov will roster players up on the team with players their grade. This is how things worked before changing to BY in 2017.


The person argueing against August September October players playing on teams that are their grade in school doesn't live in a district where district cutoffs create large numbers of misaligned club soccer players. They dont understand that kids dont mind being forced to play up. Kids dont like being forced to play on a grade down teams. Also as players get older you'll need to play on a correct grade team for college recruiting.

GY showcases will never happen because it would create chaos for clubs. Right now showcase games are rolled into club dues. This means players on each team pay to play in showcases. If GY showcases happened older players not on the current level teams would be eligible to play in lower level showcases. But players on current teams already paid for the right play at those showcases. You can see where this wont work.

[Anonymous]

Seems to me like people upset are going to be ready to throw down and want to reargue the switch to SY.

It's because most parents don't make educational decisions based on youth sports. I mean does it make sense to have younger kids on older teams ahead of kids older than them just because they went to school at different times? No, because it starts making teams away from actual soccer experience and skill -- the true purpose of 12-month windows.

This unfortunately is to be expected. When people are adversely impacted personally they will be understandably upset. When deciding to switch, all the big associations said it wouldn't be a perfect match for SY -- just better than now.

Also, to correct the record, misaligned players existed under the other system, too. 5% or an average of 1 per team. AND not everyone thinks playing up is great if your slated to be the youngest kid. Even back then as well as a growing amount of science.

[Anonymous]

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