ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

All these discussions are nuts. Aiming using soccer for college is itself wrong and used by clubs to get your hard earned money. No other countries have this insane system. There are only two categories of players: pro or amateur.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

Maybe in Socal but not in the DMV. Clubs here said play on age best play up. And no need to play up for college because college coaches told 2 clubs, Facebook and parents they don't care what age group the kids are in. College recruiting mostly is about reaching out to colleges. Keep your bad advice for your girl and stop trying to sabotage others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

California here, never heard of tournament grouped by grade.. it must be a very competitive that my kids are never invited.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

California here, never heard of tournament grouped by grade.. it must be a very competitive that my kids are never invited.

By grade? I think that's called HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

California here, never heard of tournament grouped by grade.. it must be a very competitive that my kids are never invited.

It's combined with mathematics, biology and accounting courses

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

If your kid is not on path by U16-U17 then chances are your kid just doesn't have what it takes. It's no knock to your kid, it's reality. If your kid is at that level, they would have been seen. Now if you chased a badge and your kid just rode the bench all these years or you chose a team who doesn't promote or help your kid, then it's most likely your fault.

Have you not watched Rudy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)

That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mention August playing up and many kids in age groups, not just August, are off grade. Going grade year requires a bunch of kids switching teams, some will play up and some will play down.

Showcases going graduation year, "Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)

That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mention August playing up and many kids in age groups, not just August, are off grade. Going grade year requires a bunch of kids switching teams, some will play up and some will play down.

Showcases going graduation year, "Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches."

Think about it.

In SY all players on the field will be one grade assuming Aug birthdays play up (not down).

This is what USYS means + the way things were pre 2017.

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)

That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mention August playing up and many kids in age groups, not just August, are off grade. Going grade year requires a bunch of kids switching teams, some will play up and some will play down.

Showcases going graduation year, "Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches."

Think about it.

In SY all players on the field will be one grade assuming Aug birthdays play up (not down).

This is what USYS means + the way things were pre 2017.

No, not even close. Some Aug-Dec play up. And then some Jan-July went to school late, so they will have to be reassigned different teams for showcases also. The showcases will be by graduation year, not by birthday.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eventually if play grade down guy actually has an Aug birthday kid it will be interesting to see how they'll use rae as an excuse when college coaches ignore their kid when recruiting.

The grade down guy is a littles parent that thinks he knows everything. Once players get to HS (and should be before) groupings are all done by grade because this is what college coaches are looking for.

I see brackets defined by grade all the time at tournaments 🙄

Showcases will be by grade starting next year.

Is this documented anywhere?

Posted by USYS

Was in very small print.

Grouping older players by school year places players in a more consistent emotional and physical developmental environment.
School age grouping will help college recruitment. Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches.

As youve been told multiple times. This does not mean GY. USYS is just calling out that by changing from BY to SY + along with August birthdays playing up all players on the field will be one grade in school. (As opposed to the way things were under BY)

That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mention August playing up and many kids in age groups, not just August, are off grade. Going grade year requires a bunch of kids switching teams, some will play up and some will play down.

Showcases going graduation year, "Players of the same graduating class will be participating together in high-level tournaments and showcase matches."

Think about it.

In SY all players on the field will be one grade assuming Aug birthdays play up (not down).

This is what USYS means + the way things were pre 2017.

No, not even close. Some Aug-Dec play up. And then some Jan-July went to school late, so they will have to be reassigned different teams for showcases also. The showcases will be by graduation year, not by birthday.

Ok believe what you want