ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

If your kid is not on path by U16-U17 then chances are your kid just doesn't have what it takes. It's no knock to your kid, it's reality. If your kid is at that level, they would have been seen. Now if you chased a badge and your kid just rode the bench all these years or you chose a team who doesn't promote or help your kid, then it's most likely your fault.

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

If your kid is not on path by U16-U17 then chances are your kid just doesn't have what it takes. It's no knock to your kid, it's reality. If your kid is at that level, they would have been seen. Now if you chased a badge and your kid just rode the bench all these years or you chose a team who doesn't promote or help your kid, then it's most likely your fault.

That mentality won't get you anywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

If your kid is not on path by U16-U17 then chances are your kid just doesn't have what it takes. It's no knock to your kid, it's reality. If your kid is at that level, they would have been seen. Now if you chased a badge and your kid just rode the bench all these years or you chose a team who doesn't promote or help your kid, then it's most likely your fault.

That mentality won't get you anywhere.

Just telling the reality of all this. You have to be elite, if you are elite the scouts have watched or are already watching. U18-U19 shooting for hail mary's

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

If your kid is not on path by U16-U17 then chances are your kid just doesn't have what it takes. It's no knock to your kid, it's reality. If your kid is at that level, they would have been seen. Now if you chased a badge and your kid just rode the bench all these years or you chose a team who doesn't promote or help your kid, then it's most likely your fault.

That mentality won't get you anywhere.

Just telling the reality of all this. You have to be elite, if you are elite the scouts have watched or are already watching. U18-U19 shooting for hail mary's

A certain level yes, but many of the early "elite" burn out, don't make it, either, opening up new opportunities. The churn never ends and its up to the player to decide when the dream stops.

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

If your kid is not on path by U16-U17 then chances are your kid just doesn't have what it takes. It's no knock to your kid, it's reality. If your kid is at that level, they would have been seen. Now if you chased a badge and your kid just rode the bench all these years or you chose a team who doesn't promote or help your kid, then it's most likely your fault.

That mentality won't get you anywhere.

Just telling the reality of all this. You have to be elite, if you are elite the scouts have watched or are already watching. U18-U19 shooting for hail mary's

100% agree unfortunately you're dealing with littles parent that knows everything and nothing at the same time.

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

If your kid is not on path by U16-U17 then chances are your kid just doesn't have what it takes. It's no knock to your kid, it's reality. If your kid is at that level, they would have been seen. Now if you chased a badge and your kid just rode the bench all these years or you chose a team who doesn't promote or help your kid, then it's most likely your fault.

That mentality won't get you anywhere.

Just telling the reality of all this. You have to be elite, if you are elite the scouts have watched or are already watching. U18-U19 shooting for hail mary's

A certain level yes, but many of the early "elite" burn out, don't make it, either, opening up new opportunities. The churn never ends and its up to the player to decide when the dream stops.

Overuse the word elite much?

The top tier elite players at U18 were always high level at some elements plus were doing the right things at U13 etc to build and develop. Some always had the spotlight and some didn't till later

Nobody is elite at U18 but was below average at U14. They were just seen and acknowledged later

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Teenage NIL is going to really change things.

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

If your kid is not on path by U16-U17 then chances are your kid just doesn't have what it takes. It's no knock to your kid, it's reality. If your kid is at that level, they would have been seen. Now if you chased a badge and your kid just rode the bench all these years or you chose a team who doesn't promote or help your kid, then it's most likely your fault.

That mentality won't get you anywhere.

Just telling the reality of all this. You have to be elite, if you are elite the scouts have watched or are already watching. U18-U19 shooting for hail mary's

It's amazing that so many are delusional in thinking every kid has a shot at the few spaces on the top of the mountain

Is it ignorance about sports or life?

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

If your kid is not on path by U16-U17 then chances are your kid just doesn't have what it takes. It's no knock to your kid, it's reality. If your kid is at that level, they would have been seen. Now if you chased a badge and your kid just rode the bench all these years or you chose a team who doesn't promote or help your kid, then it's most likely your fault.

That mentality won't get you anywhere.

Just telling the reality of all this. You have to be elite, if you are elite the scouts have watched or are already watching. U18-U19 shooting for hail mary's

It's amazing that so many are delusional in thinking every kid has a shot at the few spaces on the top of the mountain

Is it ignorance about sports or life?

I never said every kid. You’re just wrong to write off blue chip players who preserve and keep developing.

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

If your kid is not on path by U16-U17 then chances are your kid just doesn't have what it takes. It's no knock to your kid, it's reality. If your kid is at that level, they would have been seen. Now if you chased a badge and your kid just rode the bench all these years or you chose a team who doesn't promote or help your kid, then it's most likely your fault.

That mentality won't get you anywhere.

Just telling the reality of all this. You have to be elite, if you are elite the scouts have watched or are already watching. U18-U19 shooting for hail mary's

It's amazing that so many are delusional in thinking every kid has a shot at the few spaces on the top of the mountain

Is it ignorance about sports or life?

I never said every kid. You’re just wrong to write off blue chip players who preserve and keep developing.

Not sure what this even means

Who's writing off who, and how?

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

If your kid is not on path by U16-U17 then chances are your kid just doesn't have what it takes. It's no knock to your kid, it's reality. If your kid is at that level, they would have been seen. Now if you chased a badge and your kid just rode the bench all these years or you chose a team who doesn't promote or help your kid, then it's most likely your fault.

That mentality won't get you anywhere.

Just telling the reality of all this. You have to be elite, if you are elite the scouts have watched or are already watching. U18-U19 shooting for hail mary's

It's amazing that so many are delusional in thinking every kid has a shot at the few spaces on the top of the mountain

Is it ignorance about sports or life?

I never said every kid. You’re just wrong to write off blue chip players who preserve and keep developing.

"blue chip" "top level" or whatever you want to call them are the players teams and clubs build themselves around. Everyone else can come and go it doesn't matter because they all want to be the next blue chip player. This is why parents chase plastic trophies. 99% of the time it doesnt happen.

What this means is all you need to do is watch how clubs interact with top players and teams. Over time this will become how they interact with lower level players and teams. This is because they look at lower level players as a potential player/talent pool.

Basically if clubs dont allow Aug birthdays to play down on their top teams. (they wont) This action will trickle down to lower level and age groups over time.

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Anonymous wrote:When someone says showcases are going graduation year, what does that mean exactly for someone playing on a team that's not their grade?

It means that anyone in X grade can play on Y team. As an example any Junior can play on a Junior team. This sounds fair on the surface but what happens in GY environments is parents hold their kids back typically in 8th grade one or two years so they can be the oldest and biggest on the team.

SY is bound by 8/1-7/31 you cant be any older however you can be younger.

The GY guy just wants to play his kid that he held back in school on club soccer teams so they can be the biggest and oldest.

Ironically club soccer GA/ECNL already groups u18/u19 (juniors and seniors) together so they already play GY.

So what happens if an August player is a junior and playing in a team of sophomores? They will switch teams just for the showcase to go okay with juniors?

What you're describing is called dual rostering. This is how clubs will roster players whos parents want them to play down but they kid wants to play on a team thats their grade. A season of slowly playing more and more the the correct grade in school team and parents will be ok rostering "up" on the correct grade in school team.

No matter what parents say kids dont want to be the only kid a grade older on a team with kids a grade younger.

With showcases going graduation year it isn't dual rostering. It's just putting together teams for a tournament, a showcase.

As the college coaches note above, no need to play up or any any special age group for the regular season. Just reach out to the right colleges to get on their radar and become the best player you can and get the good HS grades. Most teams will have 3-4 kids off grades compared to the rest of the team and once you become teammates school grades aren't necessary known or discussed between the kids.

Dishonest and making things to.

u18/u19 grouping is already GY.

if you are on here for u18/u19 your time is over. Why even be in the convo? If your kid hasnt been picked up by now its time to just go to college, get a good education and welcome to the real world

Because of late developers. Because our pay-to-play system misses a lot of talent who can't afford it. ... I could go on.

Like what was said....you ARE TOO LATE to be in the CONVO.

It's never too late.

If your kid is not on path by U16-U17 then chances are your kid just doesn't have what it takes. It's no knock to your kid, it's reality. If your kid is at that level, they would have been seen. Now if you chased a badge and your kid just rode the bench all these years or you chose a team who doesn't promote or help your kid, then it's most likely your fault.

That mentality won't get you anywhere.

Just telling the reality of all this. You have to be elite, if you are elite the scouts have watched or are already watching. U18-U19 shooting for hail mary's

It's amazing that so many are delusional in thinking every kid has a shot at the few spaces on the top of the mountain

Is it ignorance about sports or life?

I never said every kid. You’re just wrong to write off blue chip players who preserve and keep developing.

"blue chip" "top level" or whatever you want to call them are the players teams and clubs build themselves around. Everyone else can come and go it doesn't matter because they all want to be the next blue chip player. This is why parents chase plastic trophies. 99% of the time it doesnt happen.

What this means is all you need to do is watch how clubs interact with top players and teams. Over time this will become how they interact with lower level players and teams. This is because they look at lower level players as a potential player/talent pool.

Basically if clubs dont allow Aug birthdays to play down on their top teams. (they wont) This action will trickle down to lower level and age groups over time.

How can clubs go against the league age month/year cutoff to allow a January player today to play down, or allow an August player next season to play down?

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Anonymous wrote:This club -- Sporting Blue Valley which offers MLSN and ECNL in Kansas -- doesn't seem to want to deal with grade at all ... From page 15 of their presentation:

"School Grade is Irrelevant: It is much easier to consider the new age-group
placement as relative to the August 1st cutoff and is not tied to their school grade
level (whether they have been held back or are ahead)."

Page 19

"Can players play up a grade level?
SURVEY - Playing Up
SBV will retain the same policy we’ve always had: A player may play up an age
group only if they make the top team in that older division.
❖ Exceptions: Exceptions are rare and reserved for specific Goalkeeper situations
or to combine two small player pools to form a viable team.
Why we aren't delaying the changes:
❖ We have chosen to "rip the Band-Aid off" rather than kick the can down the road.
❖ While we could artificially keep current teams together by moving everyone to
an older age group, we would eventually be forced to fix it.
❖ We believe it is better to realign correctly now. This avoids years of confusion
and temporary fixes, ensuring every player is on the correct long-term
development path immediately"

https://storage.googleapis.com/msgsndr/YNEbnN6f4t8L8P45OAD6/media/6945b18a173966b1e3b3b9c2.pdf

Wow ... We've seen some clubs say they'd rank by grade where possible ... Most say case-by-case ... And now the other extreme.

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Anonymous wrote:This club -- Sporting Blue Valley which offers MLSN and ECNL in Kansas -- doesn't seem to want to deal with grade at all ... From page 15 of their presentation:

"School Grade is Irrelevant: It is much easier to consider the new age-group
placement as relative to the August 1st cutoff and is not tied to their school grade
level (whether they have been held back or are ahead)."

Page 19

"Can players play up a grade level?
SURVEY - Playing Up
SBV will retain the same policy we’ve always had: A player may play up an age
group only if they make the top team in that older division.
❖ Exceptions: Exceptions are rare and reserved for specific Goalkeeper situations
or to combine two small player pools to form a viable team.
Why we aren't delaying the changes:
❖ We have chosen to "rip the Band-Aid off" rather than kick the can down the road.
❖ While we could artificially keep current teams together by moving everyone to
an older age group, we would eventually be forced to fix it.
❖ We believe it is better to realign correctly now. This avoids years of confusion
and temporary fixes, ensuring every player is on the correct long-term
development path immediately"

https://storage.googleapis.com/msgsndr/YNEbnN6f4t8L8P45OAD6/media/6945b18a173966b1e3b3b9c2.pdf

Wow ... We've seen some clubs say they'd rank by grade where possible ... Most say case-by-case ... And now the other extreme.

The whole grade thing is so ridiculous

We're here focusing on college soccer when our international competitors are focused on professional soccer