Senate Democrats sending secret letter about Kavanaugh to FBI

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all who are poo pooing this, need to ask, if there was no there there, why and how did the GOP anticipate needing 65 women (who didn't go to high school with Brett) to sign a letter saying he was a nice boy?

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No one said they anticipated it. Ever heard of social media? Pretty sure that the girls' school alums are likely pretty close knit, even today. How long would it take to put that together? Not long at all. Especially, if a few of them are very good friends of his. And, yes, the girls' schools and the boys' schools do socialize together.

But, I'm sure we will get more information when the woman gets her television interview.

As an alum of a DC girls' school, I can safely say it probably took 10 minutes to pull that list together. The DC Catholic and private school network is incredibly tight knit. I don't like Brett Kavanaugh, and definitely don't want him confirmed, but I know most of the women on that list. Hell, I've probably been to a party with Brett Kavanaugh.

But just because 65 women weren't sexually assaulted doesn't mean that one wasn't.

THANK YOU. I’m the PP who seriously doubted that someone who graduated from Prep 35+ years ago could find 65 women who even knew who he was in high school, much less could vouch for his character then. I went to NCS, still live in DC, have a dozen VERY close friends from high school and would have a hard time coming up with 65 MEN, who obviously didn’t actually go to high school with me, vouching for my high school character with two days notice. My husband, who went to the New Jersey Georgetown Prep equivalent, said the same thing. It’s not believable.

I think you've misunderstood the PP. She was saying it's completely believable that this list of women was pulled together very quickly.

Well yes, but also that it’s unbelievable that every single one of them knew him in high school and can personally vouch for his character at that time? Because that sounds like some bullsh!t.

Not at all. These private school kids all know one another socially, and probably have for years.

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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh's buddy - his alibi - is Mark Judge, who wrote the (in)famous "I wasn't a racist until an imaginary black guy stole my bicycle" essay

https://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/the-end-of-my-white-guilt/

He's also written books on his teenage alcoholism and the orthodox Catholic sexual culture at Georgetown Prep. Google and you can find the story of how he lost his virginity after yet another drunken Georgetown Prep party.

He also didn’t deny that this happened.

"Kavanaugh’s classmate said of the woman’s allegation, 'I have no recollection of that.'"

It's possible he doesn't recall because he was drunk, but that in no way lets Kavanaugh off the hook.

Equally as possible that the woman was drunk and misremembers. Or that she was trying to have sex with Kavanaugh and has second thoughts after he laughed at her and therefore called it “rape.”

True.

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Posts like this are why people hate conservatives. Congratulations.

I'm not sure what being skeptical of a 30+ yr. account of someone who was drunk at the time of the alleged incident has to do with being conservative. But congratulations to you - liberals are despised these days.

It's one thing to be skeptical, it's something else entirely to twist the allegation around to "she was just pissed that Brett wouldn't give it up for her and laughed at her"

This is rich, considering the incredible spinning going on in this thread by liberals trying to make this into more than it was. Not only insisting that he must be guilty (of what, exactly?), but that he's now a "sexual predator" and probably was in college and in fact, probably abuses his clerks. You people win the award for most disgusting twisting of words and outright lies.

No. The Rebuolicans won that award with Nixon and have owned it ever since I. How do you know when a Republican is lying or spinning-- when they open their mouth.

Wrong. Nixon was decades ago. The liberals of today win any hypocrisy award, hands-down. Everything you people have spewed on this thread is a lie.

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Anonymous wrote:Google Mark Judge, the guy who was allegedly with Kavanaugh.

I know he's trying to get out in front of it, but everything he has said makes it seem like he (Judge) would be involved with such an incident.

I googled Mark Judge and read about "Bart O'Kavanaugh" and his drunken sprees. What lovely Catholic boys! Let's see, he was a teen age alcoholic, as well as perjurer, and some sort of sexual attempt that is likely a felony. Such a fit person for a lifetime appointment to the US Supreme Court. Only Trumpkins could approve of this cretin.

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all who are poo pooing this, need to ask, if there was no there there, why and how did the GOP anticipate needing 65 women (who didn't go to high school with Brett) to sign a letter saying he was a nice boy?

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No one said they anticipated it. Ever heard of social media? Pretty sure that the girls' school alums are likely pretty close knit, even today. How long would it take to put that together? Not long at all. Especially, if a few of them are very good friends of his. And, yes, the girls' schools and the boys' schools do socialize together.

But, I'm sure we will get more information when the woman gets her television interview.

As an alum of a DC girls' school, I can safely say it probably took 10 minutes to pull that list together. The DC Catholic and private school network is incredibly tight knit. I don't like Brett Kavanaugh, and definitely don't want him confirmed, but I know most of the women on that list. Hell, I've probably been to a party with Brett Kavanaugh.

But just because 65 women weren't sexually assaulted doesn't mean that one wasn't.

THANK YOU. I’m the PP who seriously doubted that someone who graduated from Prep 35+ years ago could find 65 women who even knew who he was in high school, much less could vouch for his character then. I went to NCS, still live in DC, have a dozen VERY close friends from high school and would have a hard time coming up with 65 MEN, who obviously didn’t actually go to high school with me, vouching for my high school character with two days notice. My husband, who went to the New Jersey Georgetown Prep equivalent, said the same thing. It’s not believable.

I think you've misunderstood the PP. She was saying it's completely believable that this list of women was pulled together very quickly.

Well yes, but also that it’s unbelievable that every single one of them knew him in high school and can personally vouch for his character at that time? Because that sounds like some bullsh!t.

Not at all. These private school kids all know one another socially, and probably have for years.

I hear the Grassley letter was also intended as a warning to the complaintant. Some of those women know what happened and they’re saying we don’t have your back.

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Anonymous wrote:Google Mark Judge, the guy who was allegedly with Kavanaugh.

I know he's trying to get out in front of it, but everything he has said makes it seem like he (Judge) would be involved with such an incident.

Yup. I was same year, friends "dated" both of them, and every party was a raging drunken bacchanal whether in someone's house in DC, Bethesda, Potomac or Chevy Chase when the parents were away, or at Battery Kemble or field parties.

Mark Judge wrote a book about his teenage alcoholism. That he doesn't recall doesn't mean it didn't happen. Several of us from one of the girls schools think more stories will emerge.

The list of women who signed the letter was not surprising at all. There's already a huge fallout. It's also interesting who was not approached to sign the letter. More to come....

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah. I kind of ran with this crowd, am around the same age, and went to one of the big 3 in the DC area. I believe it.

I've seen this exact scenario involved occur in this crowd (both in high school, college, law school, and working in DC as a young attorney) and I'm not shocked this happened (not am I shocked they got a pile of women to deny it because protecting status is way, way more important than protecting people -- See the Andover scandal). I've pulled girlfriends out of situations exactly described by this woman. The loud music is the biggest detail that gives me chills.

I think the thing I find the most compelling is that the woman reported spending years getting mental health treatment to work through this trauma. She probably has those receipts. People don't spend years in therapy talking about being raped and try to heal privately if there isn't a legitimate trauma there. If she was going to pull a stunt, Judge K was running around and previously confirmed for years. There's probably a reason why she brought this out now.

I also think Judge K disclosed this and she was probably contacted during the FBI background check. My guess is that is how this whole thing blew up. The woman in the letter probably felt like she needed to tell her story before someone else did. I imagine the GOP knew as well and got the framework to get those signatures because a woman I know on that list (spilling tea) was contacted quite a bit ago. My friend hasn't come out yet, but she's considering it. She's trying to weigh the professional/personal damage from getting involved.

+1 to the letter. I know people on this list, and they were asked to sign on as a "character witness," but knew nothing of the potential allegations. It was a bait and switch.

Yikes. I hope they make that public.

Original PP. The woman I know was in the same exact position. That's why she's not happy about her name being involved. But she's very, very reluctant because people she knows have talked about how the woman in the letter is going to be destroyed when this is over if anyone leaks her name. The woman I know doesn't want to be pulled into that circus, particularly since they have kids in one of these elite privates, her DH works in DC and her club and community are involved.

My guess is she doesn't say anything. The only reason I knew was that she mentioned the letter to me well before the hearings. She was actually excited to support him, fwiw until she realized her name was being used in this context.

This is the most shocking and crazy thing about the whole story. Even if the accusation was true, there seems to be a culture of protection that no one in the media is willing to speak about.

Instead we have endless threads bantering about whether it was rape, whether it matters, whether this is a hit piece, etc. I am much, much more interested in the cover-up. That's way worse than the crime, IMO.

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People. Get real. If this happened in high school as described, this girl would not have kept quiet about it. I don't mean she would have pressed charges, but, certainly, other girls would have known about it.

But, even so, even if she thinks she is telling the truth, it just doesn't sound logical. She escaped from two high school boys? Kind of hard to believe. If it is not made of whole cloth, the gal is likely twisting the story.

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all who are poo pooing this, need to ask, if there was no there there, why and how did the GOP anticipate needing 65 women (who didn't go to high school with Brett) to sign a letter saying he was a nice boy?

--w
No one said they anticipated it. Ever heard of social media? Pretty sure that the girls' school alums are likely pretty close knit, even today. How long would it take to put that together? Not long at all. Especially, if a few of them are very good friends of his. And, yes, the girls' schools and the boys' schools do socialize together.

But, I'm sure we will get more information when the woman gets her television interview.

As an alum of a DC girls' school, I can safely say it probably took 10 minutes to pull that list together. The DC Catholic and private school network is incredibly tight knit. I don't like Brett Kavanaugh, and definitely don't want him confirmed, but I know most of the women on that list. Hell, I've probably been to a party with Brett Kavanaugh.

But just because 65 women weren't sexually assaulted doesn't mean that one wasn't.

THANK YOU. I’m the PP who seriously doubted that someone who graduated from Prep 35+ years ago could find 65 women who even knew who he was in high school, much less could vouch for his character then. I went to NCS, still live in DC, have a dozen VERY close friends from high school and would have a hard time coming up with 65 MEN, who obviously didn’t actually go to high school with me, vouching for my high school character with two days notice. My husband, who went to the New Jersey Georgetown Prep equivalent, said the same thing. It’s not believable.

I think you've misunderstood the PP. She was saying it's completely believable that this list of women was pulled together very quickly.

Well yes, but also that it’s unbelievable that every single one of them knew him in high school and can personally vouch for his character at that time? Because that sounds like some bullsh!t.

It's total bullshit. At most, maybe 5 to 10 people could really be close enough to be considered a reliable chsracter witness. Besides, there were women who vouched for Al Franken's character, but that didn't stop the conservatives, including the ones in this forum, from howling for his resignation. Why should Kavanaugh be treated differently? He may be a Republican, but he's not above the law.

Once again, since you seem to be confused: DEMOCRATS ARE THE ONES WHO INSISTED FRANKEN RESIGN. Get it straight and own your own issues.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/gillibrand-calls-on-franken-to-resign-282112

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all who are poo pooing this, need to ask, if there was no there there, why and how did the GOP anticipate needing 65 women (who didn't go to high school with Brett) to sign a letter saying he was a nice boy?

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No one said they anticipated it. Ever heard of social media? Pretty sure that the girls' school alums are likely pretty close knit, even today. How long would it take to put that together? Not long at all. Especially, if a few of them are very good friends of his. And, yes, the girls' schools and the boys' schools do socialize together.

But, I'm sure we will get more information when the woman gets her television interview.

As an alum of a DC girls' school, I can safely say it probably took 10 minutes to pull that list together. The DC Catholic and private school network is incredibly tight knit. I don't like Brett Kavanaugh, and definitely don't want him confirmed, but I know most of the women on that list. Hell, I've probably been to a party with Brett Kavanaugh.

But just because 65 women weren't sexually assaulted doesn't mean that one wasn't.

THANK YOU. I’m the PP who seriously doubted that someone who graduated from Prep 35+ years ago could find 65 women who even knew who he was in high school, much less could vouch for his character then. I went to NCS, still live in DC, have a dozen VERY close friends from high school and would have a hard time coming up with 65 MEN, who obviously didn’t actually go to high school with me, vouching for my high school character with two days notice. My husband, who went to the New Jersey Georgetown Prep equivalent, said the same thing. It’s not believable.

I think you've misunderstood the PP. She was saying it's completely believable that this list of women was pulled together very quickly.

Well yes, but also that it’s unbelievable that every single one of them knew him in high school and can personally vouch for his character at that time? Because that sounds like some bullsh!t.

Seems to me that when this many women organize themselves to write a letter, it speaks to his strong character and integrity. Combine that with the numerous other character statements already submitted and he seems to be a man above reproach.

Very strange that they had this letter all ready to go. Seems they were expecting an accusation of this nature.

You aren't keeping up, are you? They didn't have anything "ready to go." They organized and got the letter signed within ONE day of the accusatory letter coming out. It wasn't hard and it wasn't pre-planned.

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Anonymous wrote:People. Get real. If this happened in high school as described, this girl would not have kept quiet about it. I don't mean she would have pressed charges, but, certainly, other girls would have known about it.

But, even so, even if she thinks she is telling the truth, it just doesn't sound logical. She escaped from two high school boys? Kind of hard to believe. If it is not made of whole cloth, the gal is likely twisting the story.

I've literally been in this position. Yes, you can escape if you fight and don't freeze (a lot of women do to no fault of their own).

I find the deflection telling. There are many women in this story who know these schools and these types of parties in the DC area. And I am more than happy to give you the initial of my field hockey coach at our well known private to verify my bona fides.

I've also been to that Georgetown townhouse. It was a cigar smoke filled sh!t show. But I was an idiot and 20, fwiw. Luckily, I didn't get raped (though guys tried).

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all who are poo pooing this, need to ask, if there was no there there, why and how did the GOP anticipate needing 65 women (who didn't go to high school with Brett) to sign a letter saying he was a nice boy?

--w
No one said they anticipated it. Ever heard of social media? Pretty sure that the girls' school alums are likely pretty close knit, even today. How long would it take to put that together? Not long at all. Especially, if a few of them are very good friends of his. And, yes, the girls' schools and the boys' schools do socialize together.

But, I'm sure we will get more information when the woman gets her television interview.

As an alum of a DC girls' school, I can safely say it probably took 10 minutes to pull that list together. The DC Catholic and private school network is incredibly tight knit. I don't like Brett Kavanaugh, and definitely don't want him confirmed, but I know most of the women on that list. Hell, I've probably been to a party with Brett Kavanaugh.

But just because 65 women weren't sexually assaulted doesn't mean that one wasn't.

THANK YOU. I’m the PP who seriously doubted that someone who graduated from Prep 35+ years ago could find 65 women who even knew who he was in high school, much less could vouch for his character then. I went to NCS, still live in DC, have a dozen VERY close friends from high school and would have a hard time coming up with 65 MEN, who obviously didn’t actually go to high school with me, vouching for my high school character with two days notice. My husband, who went to the New Jersey Georgetown Prep equivalent, said the same thing. It’s not believable.

I think you've misunderstood the PP. She was saying it's completely believable that this list of women was pulled together very quickly.

Well yes, but also that it’s unbelievable that every single one of them knew him in high school and can personally vouch for his character at that time? Because that sounds like some bullsh!t.

Seems to me that when this many women organize themselves to write a letter, it speaks to his strong character and integrity. Combine that with the numerous other character statements already submitted and he seems to be a man above reproach.

Very strange that they had this letter all ready to go. Seems they were expecting an accusation of this nature.

You aren't keeping up, are you? They didn't have anything "ready to go." They organized and got the letter signed within ONE day of the accusatory letter coming out. It wasn't hard and it wasn't pre-planned.

Not true. I know one of the women in the letter. She agreed to be in it well before all of this. It was a general request and had nothing to do with this.

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Anonymous wrote:People. Get real. If this happened in high school as described, this girl would not have kept quiet about it. I don't mean she would have pressed charges, but, certainly, other girls would have known about it.

But, even so, even if she thinks she is telling the truth, it just doesn't sound logical. She escaped from two high school boys? Kind of hard to believe. If it is not made of whole cloth, the gal is likely twisting the story.

I've literally been in this position. Yes, you can escape if you fight and don't freeze (a lot of women do to no fault of their own).

I find the deflection telling. There are many women in this story who know these schools and these types of parties in the DC area. And I am more than happy to give you the initial of my field hockey coach at our well known private to verify my bona fides.

I've also been to that Georgetown townhouse. It was a cigar smoke filled sh!t show. But I was an idiot and 20, fwiw. Luckily, I didn't get raped (though guys tried).

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all who are poo pooing this, need to ask, if there was no there there, why and how did the GOP anticipate needing 65 women (who didn't go to high school with Brett) to sign a letter saying he was a nice boy?

--w
No one said they anticipated it. Ever heard of social media? Pretty sure that the girls' school alums are likely pretty close knit, even today. How long would it take to put that together? Not long at all. Especially, if a few of them are very good friends of his. And, yes, the girls' schools and the boys' schools do socialize together.

But, I'm sure we will get more information when the woman gets her television interview.

As an alum of a DC girls' school, I can safely say it probably took 10 minutes to pull that list together. The DC Catholic and private school network is incredibly tight knit. I don't like Brett Kavanaugh, and definitely don't want him confirmed, but I know most of the women on that list. Hell, I've probably been to a party with Brett Kavanaugh.

But just because 65 women weren't sexually assaulted doesn't mean that one wasn't.

THANK YOU. I’m the PP who seriously doubted that someone who graduated from Prep 35+ years ago could find 65 women who even knew who he was in high school, much less could vouch for his character then. I went to NCS, still live in DC, have a dozen VERY close friends from high school and would have a hard time coming up with 65 MEN, who obviously didn’t actually go to high school with me, vouching for my high school character with two days notice. My husband, who went to the New Jersey Georgetown Prep equivalent, said the same thing. It’s not believable.

I think you've misunderstood the PP. She was saying it's completely believable that this list of women was pulled together very quickly.

Well yes, but also that it’s unbelievable that every single one of them knew him in high school and can personally vouch for his character at that time? Because that sounds like some bullsh!t.

Seems to me that when this many women organize themselves to write a letter, it speaks to his strong character and integrity. Combine that with the numerous other character statements already submitted and he seems to be a man above reproach.

Very strange that they had this letter all ready to go. Seems they were expecting an accusation of this nature.

You aren't keeping up, are you? They didn't have anything "ready to go." They organized and got the letter signed within ONE day of the accusatory letter coming out. It wasn't hard and it wasn't pre-planned.

Not true. I know one of the women in the letter. She agreed to be in it well before all of this. It was a general request and had nothing to do with this.

And, I know several of the women who signed the letter. They were contacted after Feinstein’s cryptic accusation was made public.

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Anonymous wrote:People. Get real. If this happened in high school as described, this girl would not have kept quiet about it. I don't mean she would have pressed charges, but, certainly, other girls would have known about it.

But, even so, even if she thinks she is telling the truth, it just doesn't sound logical. She escaped from two high school boys? Kind of hard to believe. If it is not made of whole cloth, the gal is likely twisting the story.

This happened to me when I was at NCS a few years after Kavanaugh and I told NO ONE. Because I blamed myself for being in the situation in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all who are poo pooing this, need to ask, if there was no there there, why and how did the GOP anticipate needing 65 women (who didn't go to high school with Brett) to sign a letter saying he was a nice boy?

--w
No one said they anticipated it. Ever heard of social media? Pretty sure that the girls' school alums are likely pretty close knit, even today. How long would it take to put that together? Not long at all. Especially, if a few of them are very good friends of his. And, yes, the girls' schools and the boys' schools do socialize together.

But, I'm sure we will get more information when the woman gets her television interview.

As an alum of a DC girls' school, I can safely say it probably took 10 minutes to pull that list together. The DC Catholic and private school network is incredibly tight knit. I don't like Brett Kavanaugh, and definitely don't want him confirmed, but I know most of the women on that list. Hell, I've probably been to a party with Brett Kavanaugh.

But just because 65 women weren't sexually assaulted doesn't mean that one wasn't.

THANK YOU. I’m the PP who seriously doubted that someone who graduated from Prep 35+ years ago could find 65 women who even knew who he was in high school, much less could vouch for his character then. I went to NCS, still live in DC, have a dozen VERY close friends from high school and would have a hard time coming up with 65 MEN, who obviously didn’t actually go to high school with me, vouching for my high school character with two days notice. My husband, who went to the New Jersey Georgetown Prep equivalent, said the same thing. It’s not believable.

I think you've misunderstood the PP. She was saying it's completely believable that this list of women was pulled together very quickly.

Well yes, but also that it’s unbelievable that every single one of them knew him in high school and can personally vouch for his character at that time? Because that sounds like some bullsh!t.

Seems to me that when this many women organize themselves to write a letter, it speaks to his strong character and integrity. Combine that with the numerous other character statements already submitted and he seems to be a man above reproach.

Very strange that they had this letter all ready to go. Seems they were expecting an accusation of this nature.

You aren't keeping up, are you? They didn't have anything "ready to go." They organized and got the letter signed within ONE day of the accusatory letter coming out. It wasn't hard and it wasn't pre-planned.

Not true. I know one of the women in the letter. She agreed to be in it well before all of this. It was a general request and had nothing to do with this.

And, I know several of the women who signed the letter. They were contacted after Feinstein’s cryptic accusation was made public.

Someone needs to create a Venn diagram of who is related to whom among the letter signers. There is so much intermarriage in this group. Half of them are related to each other in some way.