First day drop off -- MD tags

[Anonymous]

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My, but folks are so quick to take offense at anything these days. We know that getting to DCPS after-care before closing and then the drive back home to Maryland are stressful after a long day at work in DC.

And there you go again. I don't care about residence cheating. I care that you're screaming about black people and PG county. That doesn't mean I am against residence cheaters being caught. It means I think you've taken a relatively minor issue, and made it into your own personal race-baiting hate speech.

PP didn't mention PG county or black people. Nice try.

NP. No, but everyone knows that PG county is majority Black followed by brown, with a sprinkle of white and Asian. When people only have a problem with PG County residents entering DC schools, you have to be a tool or a fool not to understand what they are saying. When people start acknowledging that children are coming across the line from VA and MoCo perhaps then others will not think they aren't playing the race card.

BTW, you cannot take one message out of context and say, PP didn't mention . . . without acknowledging all the prior emails from PP and those who have typed similar comments.

No PPs have mentioned "black people and PG county" when bitching about residency cheats. The people saying that residency cheating isn't a problem are the ones making a jump from the fact that a lot of the observed cheating is from PG county, to the fact that those of us complaining must not black people at our schools. Seriously. The fact is that a big chunk of the residency cheating is from PG county. It's hardly a "keep the blacks out of our schools" issue. Remember - this is DCPS - where most of the schools are black. And poor. The parents here are actively choosing to send their kids to those schools instead of move to the burbs. Why would people care about middle class blacks? Your race baiting rationale doesn't make any sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My, but folks are so quick to take offense at anything these days. We know that getting to DCPS after-care before closing and then the drive back home to Maryland are stressful after a long day at work in DC.

And there you go again. I don't care about residence cheating. I care that you're screaming about black people and PG county. That doesn't mean I am against residence cheaters being caught. It means I think you've taken a relatively minor issue, and made it into your own personal race-baiting hate speech.

Long time lurker on this post, but first time poster. The only people who have been screaming (or even mentioning, for that matter) "Black people and PG county" are the people who claim they don't think residency cheating is a problem. I am a long time DC resident and think residency cheating is a pretty big problem in DC. I never even thought about it being a race-correlated problem, and didn't envision it being a bunch of little black kids. I did understand that, by a matter of geography, there are a lot of cheaters coming in from PG county. But I also don't think of PG county people as undesireables - regardless of race, it's a pretty high income county relative to DC proper. They'd probably be a net positive on average to the school system. But I think of any cheaters as a serious problem on the school system. Nothing to do with race. I'd be surprised if parents of kids in DCPS have a problem with upper middle class black kids from PG county going to their schools. These are parents who have in many cases actively chosen to stay in the city, with all the diversity it brings. I think the people crying racism on here are just trying to stir up the pot.

PS we did not get into our first choice PK3 (not in bounds, but just a few blocks from our house). Pursuant to the published lottery data, there were many IB people who did not get into the PK3 program for this fall. We have met exactly 4 families who did get in to PK3 there -- friends of friends, one kid in my son's private preschool, a couple people at the park. In all four cases, the families do not sleep in bounds. And none of them had sibling preference. They are just fudging the papers. Based on the housing stock in this school boundary, and the number on kids riding on their older sibling preference, I'm not sure if more than a couple kids per grade actually live in bounds. I don't know why people on this site are so adamant that cheating is a small problem.

I hope you do your civic duty and report those cheaters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My, but folks are so quick to take offense at anything these days. We know that getting to DCPS after-care before closing and then the drive back home to Maryland are stressful after a long day at work in DC.

And there you go again. I don't care about residence cheating. I care that you're screaming about black people and PG county. That doesn't mean I am against residence cheaters being caught. It means I think you've taken a relatively minor issue, and made it into your own personal race-baiting hate speech.

Long time lurker on this post, but first time poster. The only people who have been screaming (or even mentioning, for that matter) "Black people and PG county" are the people who claim they don't think residency cheating is a problem. I am a long time DC resident and think residency cheating is a pretty big problem in DC. I never even thought about it being a race-correlated problem, and didn't envision it being a bunch of little black kids. I did understand that, by a matter of geography, there are a lot of cheaters coming in from PG county. But I also don't think of PG county people as undesireables - regardless of race, it's a pretty high income county relative to DC proper. They'd probably be a net positive on average to the school system. But I think of any cheaters as a serious problem on the school system. Nothing to do with race. I'd be surprised if parents of kids in DCPS have a problem with upper middle class black kids from PG county going to their schools. These are parents who have in many cases actively chosen to stay in the city, with all the diversity it brings. I think the people crying racism on here are just trying to stir up the pot.

PS we did not get into our first choice PK3 (not in bounds, but just a few blocks from our house). Pursuant to the published lottery data, there were many IB people who did not get into the PK3 program for this fall. We have met exactly 4 families who did get in to PK3 there -- friends of friends, one kid in my son's private preschool, a couple people at the park. In all four cases, the families do not sleep in bounds. And none of them had sibling preference. They are just fudging the papers. Based on the housing stock in this school boundary, and the number on kids riding on their older sibling preference, I'm not sure if more than a couple kids per grade actually live in bounds. I don't know why people on this site are so adamant that cheating is a small problem.

If you think posters here don't have a problem with upper middle class black people from PG County, you really aren't paying attention. That is primarily the demographic they've identified as the problem. It's worse that they're black professionals because it's further proof that they're "gaming the system."

Do I think there's fraud? Yup, because there's fraud with services provided at every level of government by all types of people. What's gross is making assumptions about people based on ignorance and stereotyping and then trying to foment public outrage about it. It brings on the same queasy feeling I get when a room full of people cheers the idea, stated as fact, that immigrants to this country are primarily rapists and thieves from Mexico.

It's completely disingenuous to attribute overcrowding to residency fraud and more so to decry the poor DC children being robbed. In boundary preference does not guarantee you a seat at PK 3 and 4 and no one who is IB is denied at K and up. You didn't get what you wanted this year, so everyone who did has to be a cheater? Come on.

What I find so distasteful is that the talk of residency fraud on DCUM is always accompanied by reference to PG County (and even you, the long time lurker, knew the demographic without it being stated) and nasty talk, stated as fact, that such people are grifting, grafting, amoral people resentful about gentrification. I would find it comical - because I know plenty of black people from PG County, they're all more well off than me and not one of them wants anything to do with DC or its schools - except that the sentiment and its bigoted expression here is repeated so often.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My, but folks are so quick to take offense at anything these days. We know that getting to DCPS after-care before closing and then the drive back home to Maryland are stressful after a long day at work in DC.

And there you go again. I don't care about residence cheating. I care that you're screaming about black people and PG county. That doesn't mean I am against residence cheaters being caught. It means I think you've taken a relatively minor issue, and made it into your own personal race-baiting hate speech.

PP didn't mention PG county or black people. Nice try.

NP. No, but everyone knows that PG county is majority Black followed by brown, with a sprinkle of white and Asian. When people only have a problem with PG County residents entering DC schools, you have to be a tool or a fool not to understand what they are saying. When people start acknowledging that children are coming across the line from VA and MoCo perhaps then others will not think they aren't playing the race card.

BTW, you cannot take one message out of context and say, PP didn't mention . . . without acknowledging all the prior emails from PP and those who have typed similar comments.

No PPs have mentioned "black people and PG county" when bitching about residency cheats. The people saying that residency cheating isn't a problem are the ones making a jump from the fact that a lot of the observed cheating is from PG county, to the fact that those of us complaining must not black people at our schools. Seriously. The fact is that a big chunk of the residency cheating is from PG county. It's hardly a "keep the blacks out of our schools" issue. Remember - this is DCPS - where most of the schools are black. And poor. The parents here are actively choosing to send their kids to those schools instead of move to the burbs. Why would people care about middle class blacks? Your race baiting rationale doesn't make any sense.

That lie alone invalidates any and everything else you wrote. Perhaps you need to read the thread in its entirety and stop jumping to the end.

[Anonymous]

First time poster here too. It's not a false statement to say that it embitters me a bit (a white hill-dweller) that people - and I could give a shit what their skin color is - can have their cake and eat it too by gaming the system.

Do you think I wouldn't mind having 1500 more sq feet and god damn yard? Do you think I wouldn't mind paying a shit ton less in tax and having some palatial palace to park my hummer at every evening? OK, I probably wouldn't like that - but the point is, we all make choices. PG County ex-pats think they get to have it all. There's some sort of "I'm owed" mentality.

They ARE grifting and grafting, they ARE resentful about gentrification, fuck yes they are, but they're doing it on some sort of moral ground they've constructed, (all while double parking while at church n Sundays and running DC cyclists off the road.)

I'm so happy you know PG county people who wouldn't deign to send their kids to DC schools, but plenty do - and as this thread suggests - they feel FINE about that decision. Their God approves. It's bullshit if you think they're being pigeonholed because that's the fucking fact.

[Anonymous]

ARE they owed? Is this the quid pro quo of reparations?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First time poster here too. It's not a false statement to say that it embitters me a bit (a white hill-dweller) that people - and I could give a shit what their skin color is - can have their cake and eat it too by gaming the system.

Do you think I wouldn't mind having 1500 more sq feet and god damn yard? Do you think I wouldn't mind paying a shit ton less in tax and having some palatial palace to park my hummer at every evening? OK, I probably wouldn't like that - but the point is, we all make choices. PG County ex-pats think they get to have it all. There's some sort of "I'm owed" mentality.

They ARE grifting and grafting, they ARE resentful about gentrification, fuck yes they are, but they're doing it on some sort of moral ground they've constructed, (all while double parking while at church n Sundays and running DC cyclists off the road.)

I'm so happy you know PG county people who wouldn't deign to send their kids to DC schools, but plenty do - and as this thread suggests - they feel FINE about that decision. Their God approves. It's bullshit if you think they're being pigeonholed because that's the fucking fact.

Middle age white lady who has had her fill of black people and will be moving to "NoAr" in 3.....2.....1

[Anonymous]

^ funny, but serious miss.

[Anonymous]

Assuming that many of the people with Maryland tags are coming from PG county is simple geography. At least on the Hill it is. It's a straight shot from PG, to the Hill schools, to downtown. If it were not so convenient, I'm sure they wouldn't do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Assuming that many of the people with Maryland tags are coming from PG county is simple geography. At least on the Hill it is. It's a straight shot from PG, to the Hill schools, to downtown. If it were not so convenient, I'm sure they wouldn't do it.

It's the result of PG's crappy schools + proximity. The other neighboring counties have really good schools -- hence, nobody from there's banging down any doors to drop off their kids in DCPS purgatory (unless it's some kind of competitive charter, I guess). Hey, and guess what -- as a result, there are real numbers of parents from PG dropping their kids off at DCPS. What's interesting is the character of the pushback against anyone who (a) recognizes this phenomena, and then (b) expresses an opinion that it should stop. The character of the pushback is either it's no big deal or eff y'all racists; either way there's a huge blind spot in the critics' analysis. Just interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assuming that many of the people with Maryland tags are coming from PG county is simple geography. At least on the Hill it is. It's a straight shot from PG, to the Hill schools, to downtown. If it were not so convenient, I'm sure they wouldn't do it.

It's the result of PG's crappy schools + proximity. The other neighboring counties have really good schools -- hence, nobody from there's banging down any doors to drop off their kids in DCPS purgatory (unless it's some kind of competitive charter, I guess). Hey, and guess what -- as a result, there are real numbers of parents from PG dropping their kids off at DCPS. What's interesting is the character of the pushback against anyone who (a) recognizes this phenomena, and then (b) expresses an opinion that it should stop. The character of the pushback is either it's no big deal or eff y'all racists; either way there's a huge blind spot in the critics' analysis. Just interesting.

The pushback is not about condoning cheating, it's about feeling nauseated by posters like 19:04. That's a problem that goes way beyond residency fraud.

I've been a tax-paying resident of DC for more than 25 years. Went to school here, built a career, met and married my husband, purchased two homes, birthed a kid at Sibley, enrolled him at two DCPS. So with my two degrees,white collar job, six-figure salary, $900K house and brown skin, I have to wonder if every white asshole I meet - and there are so many more these days than when I got here in '88 - is someone harboring some really nasty resentment about people who "have it all" in PG.

That explains a lot. I'm sorry your issues extend beyond residency fraud, 19:04, glad you got it out there. Maybe the Hill is a little too problematic for your well-being.

[Anonymous]

The pushback is not about condoning cheating, it's about feeling nauseated by posters like 19:04. That's a problem that goes way beyond residency fraud.

I've been a tax-paying resident of DC for more than 25 years. Went to school here, built a career, met and married my husband, purchased two homes, birthed a kid at Sibley, enrolled him at two DCPS. So with my two degrees,white collar job, six-figure salary, $900K house and brown skin, I have to wonder if every white asshole I meet - and there are so many more these days than when I got here in '88 - is someone harboring some really nasty resentment about people who "have it all" in PG.

That explains a lot. I'm sorry your issues extend beyond residency fraud, 19:04, glad you got it out there. Maybe the Hill is a little too problematic for your well-being.

It's not just you natives who are nauseated by this attitude.

1904's shit would not fly where I am from... and it is more evidence that we've landed in some kind of southern hellscape. PG residents think they are entitled for reparations? What? You kiss your kids with that mouth? And you know this because... because geography?

You keep babbling the same shit over and over again. We tell you it's offensive. You scream, "but... cheaters! R bad! You cheater!" And then give us another lecture about car registration.

[Anonymous]

Also, someone whining about "1500 more sq feet" makes me want to hurl. You live on the Hill because you are a sincere person who majored in poli sci and that's what your people do. But you secretly long for the mcmansion in Arlington. (Forgive my ignorance of specific areas there, but I'm sure you know them.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Assuming that many of the people with Maryland tags are coming from PG county is simple geography. At least on the Hill it is. It's a straight shot from PG, to the Hill schools, to downtown. If it were not so convenient, I'm sure they wouldn't do it.

It's the result of PG's crappy schools + proximity. The other neighboring counties have really good schools -- hence, nobody from there's banging down any doors to drop off their kids in DCPS purgatory (unless it's some kind of competitive charter, I guess). Hey, and guess what -- as a result, there are real numbers of parents from PG dropping their kids off at DCPS. What's interesting is the character of the pushback against anyone who (a) recognizes this phenomena, and then (b) expresses an opinion that it should stop. The character of the pushback is either it's no big deal or eff y'all racists; either way there's a huge blind spot in the critics' analysis. Just interesting.

The pushback is not about condoning cheating, it's about feeling nauseated by posters like 19:04. That's a problem that goes way beyond residency fraud.

I've been a tax-paying resident of DC for more than 25 years. Went to school here, built a career, met and married my husband, purchased two homes, birthed a kid at Sibley, enrolled him at two DCPS. So with my two degrees,white collar job, six-figure salary, $900K house and brown skin, I have to wonder if every white asshole I meet - and there are so many more these days than when I got here in '88 - is someone harboring some really nasty resentment about people who "have it all" in PG.

That explains a lot. I'm sorry your issues extend beyond residency fraud, 19:04, glad you got it out there. Maybe the Hill is a little too problematic for your well-being.

Sugar, you are one in a million.

[Anonymous]

So you a think it's perfectly fine, got it.