Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think they shot it down. They maybe have watched it for a little bit, it was flying inside the commercial air area. But the US search asset switched to that area a few days ago. Bet they find something over the weekend. It takes time for the boats to get there.

So why are the Malaysians adamant that the plane didn't change course? Did they know something? If the plane reversed course it would have flown OVER Malaysia per the maps I saw. Why didn't they just admit they caought it flying back on radar?

[Anonymous]

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My theory is that the pilot turned the plane around because of some malfunction, but was overcome and passed out or died, and the plane kept going in the new direction until it ran out of fuel and fell into the Indian Ocean, where it will be discovered someday lying on the ocean floor, a la the Titanic.

This is my theory too. a la Payne Stewart - rapid depressurization so everyone was unconscious.

There have been explanations published stating why that wouldn't happen on a commercial airliner. There is more time on a commercial jet to get oxygen masks on.

But it HAS happened on commercial airlines as late as 2005 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522

Jeeez. DIFFERENT TYPE of PLANE.

Umm. The poster did not say it could not happen on a 777. They said it could not happen on a commerical airplane. I was only addressing that.

Lots have been published about why that theory isn't a good one, so just google it for yourself.

I wasn't questioning the theory's validity. I was just saying commercial planes can lose pressure resulting in accidents. End of story.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think they shot it down. They maybe have watched it for a little bit, it was flying inside the commercial air area. But the US search asset switched to that area a few days ago. Bet they find something over the weekend. It takes time for the boats to get there.

So why are the Malaysians adamant that the plane didn't change course? Did they know something? If the plane reversed course it would have flown OVER Malaysia per the maps I saw. Why didn't they just admit they caought it flying back on radar?

They aren't anymore. They admitted it changed course.

[Anonymous]

Someone posted this comment on the Washington post--can someone please tell me there is no way this could happen, pretty please?

"It is within the realm of possibility that al Qaeda has acquired a nuclear device, considering that scores of warheads that are unaccounted for among nuclear powers: Pakistan, former Soviet bloc countries, NK. It might not even be theft, as many foreign agencies with nuclear warhead access are rife with corruption.

Given this to be a plausible scenario, the one thing lacking in order to detonate a device in an American or European urban center is a foolproof delivery system – effectively slipping it through the dragnet of nuclear detection devices and border security. And the best way to accomplish this would be to exploit the humanitarian urge to aid innocents: a hijacked airline full of passengers requesting permission to land.

Flight 370 had 7.5 hours of fuel remaining when it turned west. That would translate into 4,200 miles at standard cruising speed, which would place it as far as central Somalia (3,800 miles) The vector reported by the Malaysia military radar over Malaysia/Thailand puts the aircraft on a direct path to Somalia.

Scenario: Al Qaeda in Somalia coordinated the hijacking (or pilot complicity) of Flight 370, to have it go "dark" and turn to Somalia at the point where it leaves Malaysia air traffic control. It turns due west and crosses the peninsula at low altitude: once over the Andaman Sea, it resumes a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet with sufficient fuel to reach central Somalia at standard cruising speed of 490 knots (560 mph).

The plane lands while it is still night in Somalia. There, it is refueled and al Qaeda secures its nuclear device in the cargo hold. At some point the 777 takes off for its intended target, which could be as far as the U.S. It once again flies “dark”: as it approaches the target, it contacts the country, stating that it has been hijacked, has passengers on board, is running out of fuel and must land. It is permitted to enter airspace, heads for the target city and detonates the bomb low over the city. "

[Anonymous]

Per Daily Mail - "Missing Malaysian jet had enough fuel to fly to Pakistan: Foul play suspected as radar data shows MH370 flew towards India after locators were turned OFF - and could have flown for hours more"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2580815/Missing-MH370-jet-flown-Indias-Andaman-Islands-according-radar-data-claimed-inquiries-focus-increasingly-hijacking-theory.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone posted this comment on the Washington post--can someone please tell me there is no way this could happen, pretty please?

"It is within the realm of possibility that al Qaeda has acquired a nuclear device, considering that scores of warheads that are unaccounted for among nuclear powers: Pakistan, former Soviet bloc countries, NK. It might not even be theft, as many foreign agencies with nuclear warhead access are rife with corruption.

Given this to be a plausible scenario, the one thing lacking in order to detonate a device in an American or European urban center is a foolproof delivery system – effectively slipping it through the dragnet of nuclear detection devices and border security. And the best way to accomplish this would be to exploit the humanitarian urge to aid innocents: a hijacked airline full of passengers requesting permission to land.

Flight 370 had 7.5 hours of fuel remaining when it turned west. That would translate into 4,200 miles at standard cruising speed, which would place it as far as central Somalia (3,800 miles) The vector reported by the Malaysia military radar over Malaysia/Thailand puts the aircraft on a direct path to Somalia.

Scenario: Al Qaeda in Somalia coordinated the hijacking (or pilot complicity) of Flight 370, to have it go "dark" and turn to Somalia at the point where it leaves Malaysia air traffic control. It turns due west and crosses the peninsula at low altitude: once over the Andaman Sea, it resumes a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet with sufficient fuel to reach central Somalia at standard cruising speed of 490 knots (560 mph).

The plane lands while it is still night in Somalia. There, it is refueled and al Qaeda secures its nuclear device in the cargo hold. At some point the 777 takes off for its intended target, which could be as far as the U.S. It once again flies “dark”: as it approaches the target, it contacts the country, stating that it has been hijacked, has passengers on board, is running out of fuel and must land. It is permitted to enter airspace, heads for the target city and detonates the bomb low over the city. "

WHOA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone posted this comment on the Washington post--can someone please tell me there is no way this could happen, pretty please?

"It is within the realm of possibility that al Qaeda has acquired a nuclear device, considering that scores of warheads that are unaccounted for among nuclear powers: Pakistan, former Soviet bloc countries, NK. It might not even be theft, as many foreign agencies with nuclear warhead access are rife with corruption.

Given this to be a plausible scenario, the one thing lacking in order to detonate a device in an American or European urban center is a foolproof delivery system – effectively slipping it through the dragnet of nuclear detection devices and border security. And the best way to accomplish this would be to exploit the humanitarian urge to aid innocents: a hijacked airline full of passengers requesting permission to land.

Flight 370 had 7.5 hours of fuel remaining when it turned west. That would translate into 4,200 miles at standard cruising speed, which would place it as far as central Somalia (3,800 miles) The vector reported by the Malaysia military radar over Malaysia/Thailand puts the aircraft on a direct path to Somalia.

Scenario: Al Qaeda in Somalia coordinated the hijacking (or pilot complicity) of Flight 370, to have it go "dark" and turn to Somalia at the point where it leaves Malaysia air traffic control. It turns due west and crosses the peninsula at low altitude: once over the Andaman Sea, it resumes a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet with sufficient fuel to reach central Somalia at standard cruising speed of 490 knots (560 mph).

The plane lands while it is still night in Somalia. There, it is refueled and al Qaeda secures its nuclear device in the cargo hold. At some point the 777 takes off for its intended target, which could be as far as the U.S. It once again flies “dark”: as it approaches the target, it contacts the country, stating that it has been hijacked, has passengers on board, is running out of fuel and must land. It is permitted to enter airspace, heads for the target city and detonates the bomb low over the city. "

Well. this is extremely farfetched (although a great plot for a book!) but i don't think the US would allow it to land. They were ready to shoot down additional hijacked planes on 9/11 and they've surely thought this over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone posted this comment on the Washington post--can someone please tell me there is no way this could happen, pretty please?

"It is within the realm of possibility that al Qaeda has acquired a nuclear device, considering that scores of warheads that are unaccounted for among nuclear powers: Pakistan, former Soviet bloc countries, NK. It might not even be theft, as many foreign agencies with nuclear warhead access are rife with corruption.

Given this to be a plausible scenario, the one thing lacking in order to detonate a device in an American or European urban center is a foolproof delivery system – effectively slipping it through the dragnet of nuclear detection devices and border security. And the best way to accomplish this would be to exploit the humanitarian urge to aid innocents: a hijacked airline full of passengers requesting permission to land.

Flight 370 had 7.5 hours of fuel remaining when it turned west. That would translate into 4,200 miles at standard cruising speed, which would place it as far as central Somalia (3,800 miles) The vector reported by the Malaysia military radar over Malaysia/Thailand puts the aircraft on a direct path to Somalia.

Scenario: Al Qaeda in Somalia coordinated the hijacking (or pilot complicity) of Flight 370, to have it go "dark" and turn to Somalia at the point where it leaves Malaysia air traffic control. It turns due west and crosses the peninsula at low altitude: once over the Andaman Sea, it resumes a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet with sufficient fuel to reach central Somalia at standard cruising speed of 490 knots (560 mph).

The plane lands while it is still night in Somalia. There, it is refueled and al Qaeda secures its nuclear device in the cargo hold. At some point the 777 takes off for its intended target, which could be as far as the U.S. It once again flies “dark”: as it approaches the target, it contacts the country, stating that it has been hijacked, has passengers on board, is running out of fuel and must land. It is permitted to enter airspace, heads for the target city and detonates the bomb low over the city. "

I think if this were the case intelligent sources would have picked up increased terrorist "chatter" and they reported that there has been no increased chatter since the event, but who knows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone posted this comment on the Washington post--can someone please tell me there is no way this could happen, pretty please?

"It is within the realm of possibility that al Qaeda has acquired a nuclear device, considering that scores of warheads that are unaccounted for among nuclear powers: Pakistan, former Soviet bloc countries, NK. It might not even be theft, as many foreign agencies with nuclear warhead access are rife with corruption.

Given this to be a plausible scenario, the one thing lacking in order to detonate a device in an American or European urban center is a foolproof delivery system – effectively slipping it through the dragnet of nuclear detection devices and border security. And the best way to accomplish this would be to exploit the humanitarian urge to aid innocents: a hijacked airline full of passengers requesting permission to land.

Flight 370 had 7.5 hours of fuel remaining when it turned west. That would translate into 4,200 miles at standard cruising speed, which would place it as far as central Somalia (3,800 miles) The vector reported by the Malaysia military radar over Malaysia/Thailand puts the aircraft on a direct path to Somalia.

Scenario: Al Qaeda in Somalia coordinated the hijacking (or pilot complicity) of Flight 370, to have it go "dark" and turn to Somalia at the point where it leaves Malaysia air traffic control. It turns due west and crosses the peninsula at low altitude: once over the Andaman Sea, it resumes a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet with sufficient fuel to reach central Somalia at standard cruising speed of 490 knots (560 mph).

The plane lands while it is still night in Somalia. There, it is refueled and al Qaeda secures its nuclear device in the cargo hold. At some point the 777 takes off for its intended target, which could be as far as the U.S. It once again flies “dark”: as it approaches the target, it contacts the country, stating that it has been hijacked, has passengers on board, is running out of fuel and must land. It is permitted to enter airspace, heads for the target city and detonates the bomb low over the city. "

That's fucked up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone posted this comment on the Washington post--can someone please tell me there is no way this could happen, pretty please?

"It is within the realm of possibility that al Qaeda has acquired a nuclear device, considering that scores of warheads that are unaccounted for among nuclear powers: Pakistan, former Soviet bloc countries, NK. It might not even be theft, as many foreign agencies with nuclear warhead access are rife with corruption.

Given this to be a plausible scenario, the one thing lacking in order to detonate a device in an American or European urban center is a foolproof delivery system – effectively slipping it through the dragnet of nuclear detection devices and border security. And the best way to accomplish this would be to exploit the humanitarian urge to aid innocents: a hijacked airline full of passengers requesting permission to land.

Flight 370 had 7.5 hours of fuel remaining when it turned west. That would translate into 4,200 miles at standard cruising speed, which would place it as far as central Somalia (3,800 miles) The vector reported by the Malaysia military radar over Malaysia/Thailand puts the aircraft on a direct path to Somalia.

Scenario: Al Qaeda in Somalia coordinated the hijacking (or pilot complicity) of Flight 370, to have it go "dark" and turn to Somalia at the point where it leaves Malaysia air traffic control. It turns due west and crosses the peninsula at low altitude: once over the Andaman Sea, it resumes a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet with sufficient fuel to reach central Somalia at standard cruising speed of 490 knots (560 mph).

The plane lands while it is still night in Somalia. There, it is refueled and al Qaeda secures its nuclear device in the cargo hold. At some point the 777 takes off for its intended target, which could be as far as the U.S. It once again flies “dark”: as it approaches the target, it contacts the country, stating that it has been hijacked, has passengers on board, is running out of fuel and must land. It is permitted to enter airspace, heads for the target city and detonates the bomb low over the city. "

WHOA.

Yeah, a lot of points of failure in this scenario.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone posted this comment on the Washington post--can someone please tell me there is no way this could happen, pretty please?

"It is within the realm of possibility that al Qaeda has acquired a nuclear device, considering that scores of warheads that are unaccounted for among nuclear powers: Pakistan, former Soviet bloc countries, NK. It might not even be theft, as many foreign agencies with nuclear warhead access are rife with corruption.

Given this to be a plausible scenario, the one thing lacking in order to detonate a device in an American or European urban center is a foolproof delivery system – effectively slipping it through the dragnet of nuclear detection devices and border security. And the best way to accomplish this would be to exploit the humanitarian urge to aid innocents: a hijacked airline full of passengers requesting permission to land.

Flight 370 had 7.5 hours of fuel remaining when it turned west. That would translate into 4,200 miles at standard cruising speed, which would place it as far as central Somalia (3,800 miles) The vector reported by the Malaysia military radar over Malaysia/Thailand puts the aircraft on a direct path to Somalia.

Scenario: Al Qaeda in Somalia coordinated the hijacking (or pilot complicity) of Flight 370, to have it go "dark" and turn to Somalia at the point where it leaves Malaysia air traffic control. It turns due west and crosses the peninsula at low altitude: once over the Andaman Sea, it resumes a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet with sufficient fuel to reach central Somalia at standard cruising speed of 490 knots (560 mph).

The plane lands while it is still night in Somalia. There, it is refueled and al Qaeda secures its nuclear device in the cargo hold. At some point the 777 takes off for its intended target, which could be as far as the U.S. It once again flies “dark”: as it approaches the target, it contacts the country, stating that it has been hijacked, has passengers on board, is running out of fuel and must land. It is permitted to enter airspace, heads for the target city and detonates the bomb low over the city. "

Oh shit. Just as a PSA - if you see a bright flash outside, do NOT go toward a window to check it out. Get to an interior area and duck a cover. Pull a blanket over your skin if possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone posted this comment on the Washington post--can someone please tell me there is no way this could happen, pretty please?

"It is within the realm of possibility that al Qaeda has acquired a nuclear device, considering that scores of warheads that are unaccounted for among nuclear powers: Pakistan, former Soviet bloc countries, NK. It might not even be theft, as many foreign agencies with nuclear warhead access are rife with corruption.

Given this to be a plausible scenario, the one thing lacking in order to detonate a device in an American or European urban center is a foolproof delivery system – effectively slipping it through the dragnet of nuclear detection devices and border security. And the best way to accomplish this would be to exploit the humanitarian urge to aid innocents: a hijacked airline full of passengers requesting permission to land.

Flight 370 had 7.5 hours of fuel remaining when it turned west. That would translate into 4,200 miles at standard cruising speed, which would place it as far as central Somalia (3,800 miles) The vector reported by the Malaysia military radar over Malaysia/Thailand puts the aircraft on a direct path to Somalia.

Scenario: Al Qaeda in Somalia coordinated the hijacking (or pilot complicity) of Flight 370, to have it go "dark" and turn to Somalia at the point where it leaves Malaysia air traffic control. It turns due west and crosses the peninsula at low altitude: once over the Andaman Sea, it resumes a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet with sufficient fuel to reach central Somalia at standard cruising speed of 490 knots (560 mph).

The plane lands while it is still night in Somalia. There, it is refueled and al Qaeda secures its nuclear device in the cargo hold. At some point the 777 takes off for its intended target, which could be as far as the U.S. It once again flies “dark”: as it approaches the target, it contacts the country, stating that it has been hijacked, has passengers on board, is running out of fuel and must land. It is permitted to enter airspace, heads for the target city and detonates the bomb low over the city. "

Pretty far fetched, but it will make a good movie plot.

[Anonymous]

especially a hijacked plane that's been missing for a WEEK.

why wouldn't this happen? because it's not the 70s and after 9/11 people act differently when faced with hijacking. Instead of "do what they say and we may live," people immediately learned that day to fight back and stop hijackers even at the expense of their own lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone posted this comment on the Washington post--can someone please tell me there is no way this could happen, pretty please?

"It is within the realm of possibility that al Qaeda has acquired a nuclear device, considering that scores of warheads that are unaccounted for among nuclear powers: Pakistan, former Soviet bloc countries, NK. It might not even be theft, as many foreign agencies with nuclear warhead access are rife with corruption.

Given this to be a plausible scenario, the one thing lacking in order to detonate a device in an American or European urban center is a foolproof delivery system – effectively slipping it through the dragnet of nuclear detection devices and border security. And the best way to accomplish this would be to exploit the humanitarian urge to aid innocents: a hijacked airline full of passengers requesting permission to land.

Flight 370 had 7.5 hours of fuel remaining when it turned west. That would translate into 4,200 miles at standard cruising speed, which would place it as far as central Somalia (3,800 miles) The vector reported by the Malaysia military radar over Malaysia/Thailand puts the aircraft on a direct path to Somalia.

Scenario: Al Qaeda in Somalia coordinated the hijacking (or pilot complicity) of Flight 370, to have it go "dark" and turn to Somalia at the point where it leaves Malaysia air traffic control. It turns due west and crosses the peninsula at low altitude: once over the Andaman Sea, it resumes a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet with sufficient fuel to reach central Somalia at standard cruising speed of 490 knots (560 mph).

The plane lands while it is still night in Somalia. There, it is refueled and al Qaeda secures its nuclear device in the cargo hold. At some point the 777 takes off for its intended target, which could be as far as the U.S. It once again flies “dark”: as it approaches the target, it contacts the country, stating that it has been hijacked, has passengers on board, is running out of fuel and must land. It is permitted to enter airspace, heads for the target city and detonates the bomb low over the city. "

I don't think the U.S. would give it permission to land here. The manifest only had 3 American citizens on board, and while we should care about the fate of those citizens, I wouldn't risk another 9/11 over 3 Americans.

[Anonymous]

I sure hope the US "intelligence" community knows a lot more than the little that's being reported.