FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

[Anonymous]

SLHS already sucks. Losing Fox Mill will make it suck even more.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly the best solution is probably to not try and backfill all of Westfield. 2000 students is fine.

Are you at Westfield? Have you figured out how many teachers would get destaffed and how many electives Westfield would lose if it went down to 2000? Why do you think Meren is trying to protect South Lakes?

There will be plenty of electives. And, plenty of teachers. Unlikely any will be destaffed when you consider those who apply to transfer or retire.

And, just because there are electives, does not mean your child will get into the class. My DD had to make choices because she wanted two electives that were only taught once and they were at the same time. This happens. Two_years in a row, she had to make choices--at Chantilly--which, FYI--is a very large school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SLHS already sucks. Losing Fox Mill will make it suck even more.

It’s not Fox Mill’s job to make SLHS suck less.

SLHS will suck less if they lose IB and get AP. Less immigration and more MC kids from new development will also help.

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Anonymous wrote:Go take a drive out there! You will see route 50 has a large moat with alligators and sea monsters. Thou shalt not pass!

Oh dear. Chantilly HS is south of Route 50. Guess we need to rezone everyone north of Route 50 to other schoosl. Since it is an insurmountable barrier.

There's really not enough popcorn in the world for this.

Good catch! But, circumstances are quite different geographically. The students could (and some do) walk.

Suggest you take a drive from Loudoun County to Greenbriar. Tell me how many residential areas you see south of 50 until you pass Centreville Rd.

At this point who cares if you can walk to one school and get sent to another? Look at the whole county. There's people who could walk to Woodson going to Fairfax, people who could walk to Oakton going to Madison, and people who could walk to Oakton going to Fairfax. The Woodson, Madison, and Fairfax boundaries force Oakton's boundary to look ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Go take a drive out there! You will see route 50 has a large moat with alligators and sea monsters. Thou shalt not pass!

Oh dear. Chantilly HS is south of Route 50. Guess we need to rezone everyone north of Route 50 to other schoosl. Since it is an insurmountable barrier.

There's really not enough popcorn in the world for this.

Good catch! But, circumstances are quite different geographically. The students could (and some do) walk.

Suggest you take a drive from Loudoun County to Greenbriar. Tell me how many residential areas you see south of 50 until you pass Centreville Rd.

At this point who cares if you can walk to one school and get sent to another? Look at the whole county. There's people who could walk to Woodson going to Fairfax, people who could walk to Oakton going to Madison, and people who could walk to Oakton going to Fairfax. The Woodson, Madison, and Fairfax boundaries force Oakton's boundary to look ridiculous.

Those who could walk to Woodson and going to Fairfax live in Fairfax City. It is a requirement that they go to Fairfax.

But, have we taken walkers out of Woodson to send them to Fairfax? I don't think so.
Have we taken walkers out of Oakton to send them to Madison? I don't think so.

Big difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly the best solution is probably to not try and backfill all of Westfield. 2000 students is fine.

Are you at Westfield? Have you figured out how many teachers would get destaffed and how many electives Westfield would lose if it went down to 2000? Why do you think Meren is trying to protect South Lakes?

Meren doesn’t care about electives or destaffing whatsoever. lol. She just doesn’t want test scores to go down the drain by losing the top kids.

Wait, has someone proposed to move Sunrise Valley out of South Lakes?

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly the best solution is probably to not try and backfill all of Westfield. 2000 students is fine.

Are you at Westfield? Have you figured out how many teachers would get destaffed and how many electives Westfield would lose if it went down to 2000? Why do you think Meren is trying to protect South Lakes?

There will be plenty of electives. And, plenty of teachers. Unlikely any will be destaffed when you consider those who apply to transfer or retire.

And, just because there are electives, does not mean your child will get into the class. My DD had to make choices because she wanted two electives that were only taught once and they were at the same time. This happens. Two_years in a row, she had to make choices--at Chantilly--which, FYI--is a very large school.

So clueless. Your DD was forced to make choices between two electives offered at Chantilly that may not be offered at all at Westfield, especially if they only leave it with 2000 kids. The demographics at Westfield don’t support as many electives to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield is nowhere near Franklin MS - why are they getting moved in there in all 3 scenarios??

Because RIO lobbied for it to try to ensure their kids stayed franklin to oakton. And they have a parent embedded at Gatehouse.

1) look at a map, Franklin makes sense for resolving split feeders, and yes feeding Oakton

2) this is a blatant lie that keeps getting repeated by some troll(s) who is not connected with reality

You’re just afraid the consultants will see through the bs and put you where you rightfully belong - at Skyview.

mostly I'm afraid of people making assumptions and spreading lies to pit one group against another.

The middle school splits are odd, I do think some can be improved, though given locations & numbers not completely resolved. It would seem make sense that if Lees Corner or some Navy families want to stay at Chantilly HS, they might expect to be aligned to Rocky Run. If Crossfield/Navy/Waples families are staying at Oakton, they should expect to be aligned to Franklin. Oakhill families seem to agree that it makes the most sense to align them to Carson (rather than current split to Franklin and Carson) if they are going to be proceeding to Skyview.

Based on the student population and utilization numbers there is no reason to move Navy students who would progress to Oakton to Rocky Run. This is counter to all the FCPS stated priorities for boundaries AND is NOT something that anyone else has advocated for.

[Anonymous]

Floris, Oak Hill, Fox Mill, and Crossfield make a really nice and clean boundary for Skyview.

Coates and McNair stay at Westfield so there's no need to backfill.

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Anonymous wrote:Rocky Run is right next to Chantilly. Kids zoned to RR should all go to Chantilly (And I think now they do, except for the AAP kids).

They should but now Navy Oakton kids are getting rezoned there because Franklin MS is suddenly getting an elementary school that hasn’t been there in years and has priority apparently when they could just stay at Carson. Proximity doesn’t matter to these folks (they’re willing to commute all the way out to Oakton) so explain to me why should they all get moved over to Franklin while Navy kids will be split to different middle schools?

Really. I agree that there is difficulty with avoiding a split feeder. If Crossfield stays at Carson, then Oak Hill will stay at Franklin. Oak Hill is pretty certain to go to Skyview.

Honestly, Oak Hill and Crossfield should be at Carson/Skyview. Put Fox Mill at Hughes when AAP centers are in every middle school.

I would set Skyview boundary. Adjust Westfield on the edges and leave it be for a year or two. Then, work on the middle schools, if needed.

Franklin has been a split feeder forever--at least thirty years--maybe more. It's not optimum, but it is only two years.

Hughes is already a Center and there is no space for Fox Mill. Fox Mill should be at Skyview. There are Fox Mill kids within a mile of Skyview. We share a boundary with Floris and go to Oak Hill for AAP. Carson is right next door and we attend Carson. And most of us want to attend Skyview.

Let Crossfield stay at Oakton since that is where they want to be. And yes, I think that there are more Crossfield families that want to stay at Oakton then want to move to Skyview. The families that want to attend Skyview can pupil place for the specialized programs. They should be able to get permission to pick up a bus int he Fox Mill area or one of the other close by spots.

Well said.

I don't get the hate toward Crossfield.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Go take a drive out there! You will see route 50 has a large moat with alligators and sea monsters. Thou shalt not pass!

Oh dear. Chantilly HS is south of Route 50. Guess we need to rezone everyone north of Route 50 to other schoosl. Since it is an insurmountable barrier.

There's really not enough popcorn in the world for this.

Good catch! But, circumstances are quite different geographically. The students could (and some do) walk.

Suggest you take a drive from Loudoun County to Greenbriar. Tell me how many residential areas you see south of 50 until you pass Centreville Rd.

At this point who cares if you can walk to one school and get sent to another? Look at the whole county. There's people who could walk to Woodson going to Fairfax, people who could walk to Oakton going to Madison, and people who could walk to Oakton going to Fairfax. The Woodson, Madison, and Fairfax boundaries force Oakton's boundary to look ridiculous.

My neighborhood walks to Chantilly and I would be quite upset if the kids in my neighborhood are sent on a bus elsewhere (meaning more routes, busses, drivers are needed), while people already on a bus (meaning they live further away from Chantilly) get to stay there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Floris, Oak Hill, Fox Mill, and Crossfield make a really nice and clean boundary for Skyview.

Coates and McNair stay at Westfield so there's no need to backfill.

That would create an island.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Floris, Oak Hill, Fox Mill, and Crossfield make a really nice and clean boundary for Skyview.

Coates and McNair stay at Westfield so there's no need to backfill.

Clean except for having to bus the Coates and McNair kids thru the entire thing, right past their MS (Carson) and Skyview, to travel to WF?!?
Do you work on retainer for WXYZ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Floris, Oak Hill, Fox Mill, and Crossfield make a really nice and clean boundary for Skyview.

Coates and McNair stay at Westfield so there's no need to backfill.

Clean except for having to bus the Coates and McNair kids thru the entire thing, right past their MS (Carson) and Skyview, to travel to WF?!?
Do you work on retainer for WXYZ?

That or they asked Chat GPT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Floris, Oak Hill, Fox Mill, and Crossfield make a really nice and clean boundary for Skyview.

Coates and McNair stay at Westfield so there's no need to backfill.

That would create an island.

Ok, leave out Floris and add Navy. Crossfield, Navy, Fox Mill, Oak Hill.

Rename it Oak Hill HS

Oakton and Chantilly get relief.