Government Shutdown - Sep 2025 Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mass layoffs are coming anyway, people.

The budget cuts in the Trump budget call for slashing the State Department down 84%!!!!!! And other departments are going to suffer as well. There is no way they can get there without firing tons of people.

That's if the budget passes.

The threat to laying off people during a shutdown is disingenuous. Trump and Vought plan on letting them go anyway.

Do you guys understand this?

The point of Democrats standing up to Trump and force a shutdown is to make him lay off workers without them.

Otherwise if they approve the budget, they are complicit in the mass layoff.

I really hope you are all understanding this. The DC region is screwed either way. We can either make political hay out of this or suffer for nothing.

Do you get it?

If they offer me a VERA I’ll leave immediately. Please just make the offer!!!!

It's bad out there, PP. The DC region cannot absorb all the feds who have already left the government. Plenty are desperately looking for work, and will get more desperate now that their VERA paychecks are ending. Some have already left the area.

It's about to get a whole lot harder to find a job here. Existing feds need to read the budget proposal from the White House, and carefully evaluate what their personal risk is.

[Anonymous]

^not vera paychecks, meant fork paychecks

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No deal from the talk but Dems are starting to sound like they are preparing to cave.

Where are you reading they’re caving? Schumer can’t have a 10 day CR. There’s no option to amend the CR that’s on the table without the House voting and they’re out until 10/6

Politico was reporting senate dems being ok with just starting negotiations on the healthcare issues. That seems like a pretty soft ask.

Why are they asking for emergency covid subsidies to be extended? Its so odd, they should negoiate something of value this make them look so dumn and missing the point. They should be fighting for re-instating rif'd workers and other things people can get behind on.

+1. And foreign aid and gutted scientific research. This does seem like a weird thing to fixate on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump, Democrats emerge from meeting without a deal

But with glimmers of hope. Plenty of time, still, for a deal.

The House only has a pro forma session tomorrow. I don't think they could vote on a different CR even if they wanted to.

Schumer could still try to surrender, but I'm not sure anyone else would follow.

Eight moderates would.

Whomever concedes is going to face the wrath of voters.

No they won’t. The same sides will still vote for the same sides. Give me an effing break.

Agreed. There is a small segment of voters that jumps back and forth ( I know some Gen Z voters in my family who regret their 2024 vote now) but most people are firmly entrenched in one side, even the Trump voters hurt by his policies. It’s all about turnout and gerrymandering to get congressional seats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No deal from the talk but Dems are starting to sound like they are preparing to cave.

Where are you reading they’re caving? Schumer can’t have a 10 day CR. There’s no option to amend the CR that’s on the table without the House voting and they’re out until 10/6

Politico was reporting senate dems being ok with just starting negotiations on the healthcare issues. That seems like a pretty soft ask.

Why are they asking for emergency covid subsidies to be extended? Its so odd, they should negoiate something of value this make them look so dumn and missing the point. They should be fighting for re-instating rif'd workers and other things people can get behind on.

+1. And foreign aid and gutted scientific research. This does seem like a weird thing to fixate on.

I'm a research scientist who has seen the devastation at NIH. What we need is to continue to give Americans (barely) affordable healthcare. It's better than nothing. We need that right now, because a recession is coming and people need to hold on to life and property. The decimation of research is heartbreaking, but I don't think this administration will ever understand that. You've got to wait for the next one. And as a selling point to the American public, not raising healthcare prices sounds better than sinking billions in research that won't improve your life anytime in the next 3 decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The mass layoffs are coming anyway, people.

The budget cuts in the Trump budget call for slashing the State Department down 84%!!!!!! And other departments are going to suffer as well. There is no way they can get there without firing tons of people.

That's if the budget passes.

The threat to laying off people during a shutdown is disingenuous. Trump and Vought plan on letting them go anyway.

Do you guys understand this?

The point of Democrats standing up to Trump and force a shutdown is to make him lay off workers without them.

Otherwise if they approve the budget, they are complicit in the mass layoff.

I really hope you are all understanding this. The DC region is screwed either way. We can either make political hay out of this or suffer for nothing.

Do you get it?

But why aren’t Dems hammering on this? Why are they focused on what were supposed to be temporary ACA subsidies instead of laying this out to the public- I think a lot of people outside the DMV bubble are unaware what is going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mass layoffs are coming anyway, people.

The budget cuts in the Trump budget call for slashing the State Department down 84%!!!!!! And other departments are going to suffer as well. There is no way they can get there without firing tons of people.

That's if the budget passes.

The threat to laying off people during a shutdown is disingenuous. Trump and Vought plan on letting them go anyway.

Do you guys understand this?

The point of Democrats standing up to Trump and force a shutdown is to make him lay off workers without them.

Otherwise if they approve the budget, they are complicit in the mass layoff.

I really hope you are all understanding this. The DC region is screwed either way. We can either make political hay out of this or suffer for nothing.

Do you get it?

But why aren’t Dems hammering on this? Why are they focused on what were supposed to be temporary ACA subsidies instead of laying this out to the public- I think a lot of people outside the DMV bubble are unaware what is going on.

Because people presumably care about their healthcare costs more than they care about federal workers being fired again. You'll notice the rest of the nation didn't react much when the first layoffs happened. And even though they didn't just hit the DC area, it's true our area is by far the hardest hit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mass layoffs are coming anyway, people.

The budget cuts in the Trump budget call for slashing the State Department down 84%!!!!!! And other departments are going to suffer as well. There is no way they can get there without firing tons of people.

That's if the budget passes.

The threat to laying off people during a shutdown is disingenuous. Trump and Vought plan on letting them go anyway.

Do you guys understand this?

The point of Democrats standing up to Trump and force a shutdown is to make him lay off workers without them.

Otherwise if they approve the budget, they are complicit in the mass layoff.

I really hope you are all understanding this. The DC region is screwed either way. We can either make political hay out of this or suffer for nothing.

Do you get it?

But why aren’t Dems hammering on this? Why are they focused on what were supposed to be temporary ACA subsidies instead of laying this out to the public- I think a lot of people outside the DMV bubble are unaware what is going on.

Because people presumably care about their healthcare costs more than they care about federal workers being fired again. You'll notice the rest of the nation didn't react much when the first layoffs happened. And even though they didn't just hit the DC area, it's true our area is by far the hardest hit.

DP. This assumes that people are making the connection that the healthcare cuts will hurt THEM rather than OTHERS, because one thing that’s become pretty clear is how selfish Americans are overall.

I’m not saying this isn’t worth fighting for, I just don’t know the republicans are going to concede on reinstating something they’ve already passed, unless their constituents are connecting the dots and making enough of a fuss. Trump sure isn’t going to compromise anything that will look like a “loss” for him.

[Anonymous]

DH and I are both ex Feds. We left our agencies this summer and relocated to the Midwest. I can 100% confirm that no one outside the DMV area cares what happens to Feds. No one came to support us earlier this year, and no one will come to the rescue now or in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mass layoffs are coming anyway, people.

The budget cuts in the Trump budget call for slashing the State Department down 84%!!!!!! And other departments are going to suffer as well. There is no way they can get there without firing tons of people.

That's if the budget passes.

The threat to laying off people during a shutdown is disingenuous. Trump and Vought plan on letting them go anyway.

Do you guys understand this?

The point of Democrats standing up to Trump and force a shutdown is to make him lay off workers without them.

Otherwise if they approve the budget, they are complicit in the mass layoff.

I really hope you are all understanding this. The DC region is screwed either way. We can either make political hay out of this or suffer for nothing.

Do you get it?

If they offer me a VERA I’ll leave immediately. Please just make the offer!!!!

It's bad out there, PP. The DC region cannot absorb all the feds who have already left the government. Plenty are desperately looking for work, and will get more desperate now that their VERA paychecks are ending. Some have already left the area.

It's about to get a whole lot harder to find a job here. Existing feds need to read the budget proposal from the White House, and carefully evaluate what their personal risk is.

The plan is to have federal slaves so here we go!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DH and I are both ex Feds. We left our agencies this summer and relocated to the Midwest. I can 100% confirm that no one outside the DMV area cares what happens to Feds. No one came to support us earlier this year, and no one will come to the rescue now or in the future.

Until they need help from FEMA or SSA, realize no one is going to help them fight the next pandemic, the cancer they were just diagnosed with is no longer being studied.
.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mass layoffs are coming anyway, people.

The budget cuts in the Trump budget call for slashing the State Department down 84%!!!!!! And other departments are going to suffer as well. There is no way they can get there without firing tons of people.

That's if the budget passes.

The threat to laying off people during a shutdown is disingenuous. Trump and Vought plan on letting them go anyway.

Do you guys understand this?

The point of Democrats standing up to Trump and force a shutdown is to make him lay off workers without them.

Otherwise if they approve the budget, they are complicit in the mass layoff.

I really hope you are all understanding this. The DC region is screwed either way. We can either make political hay out of this or suffer for nothing.

Do you get it?

If they offer me a VERA I’ll leave immediately. Please just make the offer!!!!

It's bad out there, PP. The DC region cannot absorb all the feds who have already left the government. Plenty are desperately looking for work, and will get more desperate now that their VERA paychecks are ending. Some have already left the area.

It's about to get a whole lot harder to find a job here. Existing feds need to read the budget proposal from the White House, and carefully evaluate what their personal risk is.

And then do what? I feel like a sitting duck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mass layoffs are coming anyway, people.

The budget cuts in the Trump budget call for slashing the State Department down 84%!!!!!! And other departments are going to suffer as well. There is no way they can get there without firing tons of people.

That's if the budget passes.

The threat to laying off people during a shutdown is disingenuous. Trump and Vought plan on letting them go anyway.

Do you guys understand this?

The point of Democrats standing up to Trump and force a shutdown is to make him lay off workers without them.

Otherwise if they approve the budget, they are complicit in the mass layoff.

I really hope you are all understanding this. The DC region is screwed either way. We can either make political hay out of this or suffer for nothing.

Do you get it?

If they offer me a VERA I’ll leave immediately. Please just make the offer!!!!

It's bad out there, PP. The DC region cannot absorb all the feds who have already left the government. Plenty are desperately looking for work, and will get more desperate now that their VERA paychecks are ending. Some have already left the area.

It's about to get a whole lot harder to find a job here. Existing feds need to read the budget proposal from the White House, and carefully evaluate what their personal risk is.

And then do what? I feel like a sitting duck.

If you can afford to leave, leave

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DH and I are both ex Feds. We left our agencies this summer and relocated to the Midwest. I can 100% confirm that no one outside the DMV area cares what happens to Feds. No one came to support us earlier this year, and no one will come to the rescue now or in the future.

Native midwesterner here and yup, no one cares and they dont want Fed jobs relocated there either because they don’t want to be part of the swamp. I have relatives who don’t even see the value in the NWS because they are convinced Accuweather could just use AI and make forecasts better and cheaper. I’ve given up on that one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DH and I are both ex Feds. We left our agencies this summer and relocated to the Midwest. I can 100% confirm that no one outside the DMV area cares what happens to Feds. No one came to support us earlier this year, and no one will come to the rescue now or in the future.

“I moved to the Midwest and therefore know what every single person in the United States thinks.”