DDOT's latest plan to destroy traffic, Georgia Avenue edition

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

When DC and MoCo try to make things a bit better for people who are walking, biking, or taking transit, some people who think it's all about them consider it a war on cars.

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Anonymous wrote:DDOT says the city has 12.7 miles of bus only lanes. Have they increased ridership?

Yes

Wrong. There's no evidence that bus only lanes in DC have increased ridership. Makes you wonder why we need more.

It's not wrong and here is why. See if the bus can drive unobstructed in traffic because it has its own lane, then fewer people will need to drive. But we could also just replace all the cars with bats since it's almost Halloween.

I would like to see 150,000 bats on Georgia Avenue.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

When DC and MoCo try to make things a bit better for people who are walking, biking, or taking transit, some people who think it's all about them consider it a war on cars.

A generation ago the ns of people smoked cigarettes like crazy and polluted tf out of our air indoors and outdoors with it. Inside a couple decades that about-faced. Inner city and even most suburban travel for most trips taken today by car could do that same thing once all these carbrain addled boomers and gen xers phase out. Most millennials and gen zers I know simply can't afford a car comfortably and would love to get rid of one if they had one and could.

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Anonymous wrote:DDOT says the city has 12.7 miles of bus only lanes. Have they increased ridership?

Yes

Wrong. There's no evidence that bus only lanes in DC have increased ridership. Makes you wonder why we need more.

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, as much as you may try to pretend otherwise.

There's no evidence because the city refuses to release the data, even though we've had bus only lanes for five years. If there was evidence, the city would cite it. Instead, in its pitch for this project, it says ridership increased in other unnamed cities, which is ridiculous. We have bus lanes here. Give us the ridership numbers from here.

The city and WMATA are completely different entities. But as you has been explained to you before, estimating the impact of the lanes on ridership is much more complicated than you are making it out to be.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

When DC and MoCo try to make things a bit better for people who are walking, biking, or taking transit, some people who think it's all about them consider it a war on cars.

A generation ago the ns of people smoked cigarettes like crazy and polluted tf out of our air indoors and outdoors with it. Inside a couple decades that about-faced. Inner city and even most suburban travel for most trips taken today by car could do that same thing once all these carbrain addled boomers and gen xers phase out. Most millennials and gen zers I know simply can't afford a car comfortably and would love to get rid of one if they had one and could.

Lol, where are of these millennials that can’t afford cars? If they existed in numbers and didn’t want a car, why would they live here?

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/actually-millennials-dont-own-fewer-cars

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/car-ownership-statistics.html

Half of GenZ is still in high school or younger.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

When DC and MoCo try to make things a bit better for people who are walking, biking, or taking transit, some people who think it's all about them consider it a war on cars.

A generation ago the ns of people smoked cigarettes like crazy and polluted tf out of our air indoors and outdoors with it. Inside a couple decades that about-faced. Inner city and even most suburban travel for most trips taken today by car could do that same thing once all these carbrain addled boomers and gen xers phase out. Most millennials and gen zers I know simply can't afford a car comfortably and would love to get rid of one if they had one and could.

Lol, where are of these millennials that can’t afford cars? If they existed in numbers and didn’t want a car, why would they live here?

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/actually-millennials-dont-own-fewer-cars

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/car-ownership-statistics.html

Half of GenZ is still in high school or younger.

I've got 26 people that work in my team in DC between the ages of 24 and about late 30's. I think maybe 6 or 7 of them own a car. Of the ones that do all but 1 lives outside of DC proper in like Arlington or Bethesda.

Dude in the city if you're living in an apartment or a condo you're paying like 100 to 150 a month for the privilege of parking your car that you barely use. Its just not worth it at all. Can rent a car from free2move or zipcars no problem on the offchance you want one to go apple picking or whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

When DC and MoCo try to make things a bit better for people who are walking, biking, or taking transit, some people who think it's all about them consider it a war on cars.

A generation ago the ns of people smoked cigarettes like crazy and polluted tf out of our air indoors and outdoors with it. Inside a couple decades that about-faced. Inner city and even most suburban travel for most trips taken today by car could do that same thing once all these carbrain addled boomers and gen xers phase out. Most millennials and gen zers I know simply can't afford a car comfortably and would love to get rid of one if they had one and could.

And now millennials and gen zero are all smoking pot. And the children of millennials are running around a streatery somewhere, having finished their juice-boxes while their parents sip on their third martinis.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

When DC and MoCo try to make things a bit better for people who are walking, biking, or taking transit, some people who think it's all about them consider it a war on cars.

A generation ago the ns of people smoked cigarettes like crazy and polluted tf out of our air indoors and outdoors with it. Inside a couple decades that about-faced. Inner city and even most suburban travel for most trips taken today by car could do that same thing once all these carbrain addled boomers and gen xers phase out. Most millennials and gen zers I know simply can't afford a car comfortably and would love to get rid of one if they had one and could.

And now millennials and gen zero are all smoking pot. And the children of millennials are running around a streatery somewhere, having finished their juice-boxes while their parents sip on their third martinis.

You forgot the avocado toast trope, boomer

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

When DC and MoCo try to make things a bit better for people who are walking, biking, or taking transit, some people who think it's all about them consider it a war on cars.

A generation ago the ns of people smoked cigarettes like crazy and polluted tf out of our air indoors and outdoors with it. Inside a couple decades that about-faced. Inner city and even most suburban travel for most trips taken today by car could do that same thing once all these carbrain addled boomers and gen xers phase out. Most millennials and gen zers I know simply can't afford a car comfortably and would love to get rid of one if they had one and could.

Lol, where are of these millennials that can’t afford cars? If they existed in numbers and didn’t want a car, why would they live here?

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/actually-millennials-dont-own-fewer-cars

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/car-ownership-statistics.html

Half of GenZ is still in high school or younger.

I've got 26 people that work in my team in DC between the ages of 24 and about late 30's. I think maybe 6 or 7 of them own a car. Of the ones that do all but 1 lives outside of DC proper in like Arlington or Bethesda.

Dude in the city if you're living in an apartment or a condo you're paying like 100 to 150 a month for the privilege of parking your car that you barely use. Its just not worth it at all. Can rent a car from free2move or zipcars no problem on the offchance you want one to go apple picking or whatever.

They're probably afraid to admit to you that they own one because you're probably very vocal about hating cars. Everyone at my office in that age group who lives in DC has a car. We get free parking at our office building so they all drive even if they live close by.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

When DC and MoCo try to make things a bit better for people who are walking, biking, or taking transit, some people who think it's all about them consider it a war on cars.

A generation ago the ns of people smoked cigarettes like crazy and polluted tf out of our air indoors and outdoors with it. Inside a couple decades that about-faced. Inner city and even most suburban travel for most trips taken today by car could do that same thing once all these carbrain addled boomers and gen xers phase out. Most millennials and gen zers I know simply can't afford a car comfortably and would love to get rid of one if they had one and could.

Lol, where are of these millennials that can’t afford cars? If they existed in numbers and didn’t want a car, why would they live here?

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/actually-millennials-dont-own-fewer-cars

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/car-ownership-statistics.html

Half of GenZ is still in high school or younger.

I've got 26 people that work in my team in DC between the ages of 24 and about late 30's. I think maybe 6 or 7 of them own a car. Of the ones that do all but 1 lives outside of DC proper in like Arlington or Bethesda.

Dude in the city if you're living in an apartment or a condo you're paying like 100 to 150 a month for the privilege of parking your car that you barely use. Its just not worth it at all. Can rent a car from free2move or zipcars no problem on the offchance you want one to go apple picking or whatever.

They're probably afraid to admit to you that they own one because you're probably very vocal about hating cars. Everyone at my office in that age group who lives in DC has a car. We get free parking at our office building so they all drive even if they live close by.

It sounds like you work with a bunch of idiots.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

When DC and MoCo try to make things a bit better for people who are walking, biking, or taking transit, some people who think it's all about them consider it a war on cars.

A generation ago the ns of people smoked cigarettes like crazy and polluted tf out of our air indoors and outdoors with it. Inside a couple decades that about-faced. Inner city and even most suburban travel for most trips taken today by car could do that same thing once all these carbrain addled boomers and gen xers phase out. Most millennials and gen zers I know simply can't afford a car comfortably and would love to get rid of one if they had one and could.

Lol, where are of these millennials that can’t afford cars? If they existed in numbers and didn’t want a car, why would they live here?

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/actually-millennials-dont-own-fewer-cars

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/car-ownership-statistics.html

Half of GenZ is still in high school or younger.

I've got 26 people that work in my team in DC between the ages of 24 and about late 30's. I think maybe 6 or 7 of them own a car. Of the ones that do all but 1 lives outside of DC proper in like Arlington or Bethesda.

Dude in the city if you're living in an apartment or a condo you're paying like 100 to 150 a month for the privilege of parking your car that you barely use. Its just not worth it at all. Can rent a car from free2move or zipcars no problem on the offchance you want one to go apple picking or whatever.

They're probably afraid to admit to you that they own one because you're probably very vocal about hating cars. Everyone at my office in that age group who lives in DC has a car. We get free parking at our office building so they all drive even if they live close by.

It sounds like you work with a bunch of idiots.

You just proved my point about why many of your team members won't admit to you that they own cars.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

When DC and MoCo try to make things a bit better for people who are walking, biking, or taking transit, some people who think it's all about them consider it a war on cars.

A generation ago the ns of people smoked cigarettes like crazy and polluted tf out of our air indoors and outdoors with it. Inside a couple decades that about-faced. Inner city and even most suburban travel for most trips taken today by car could do that same thing once all these carbrain addled boomers and gen xers phase out. Most millennials and gen zers I know simply can't afford a car comfortably and would love to get rid of one if they had one and could.

Lol, where are of these millennials that can’t afford cars? If they existed in numbers and didn’t want a car, why would they live here?

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/actually-millennials-dont-own-fewer-cars

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/car-ownership-statistics.html

Half of GenZ is still in high school or younger.

I've got 26 people that work in my team in DC between the ages of 24 and about late 30's. I think maybe 6 or 7 of them own a car. Of the ones that do all but 1 lives outside of DC proper in like Arlington or Bethesda.

Dude in the city if you're living in an apartment or a condo you're paying like 100 to 150 a month for the privilege of parking your car that you barely use. Its just not worth it at all. Can rent a car from free2move or zipcars no problem on the offchance you want one to go apple picking or whatever.

They're probably afraid to admit to you that they own one because you're probably very vocal about hating cars. Everyone at my office in that age group who lives in DC has a car. We get free parking at our office building so they all drive even if they live close by.

+1

I don’t know anyone in that age group who doesn’t own a car in the city. They don’t drive it that often but they own one.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

When DC and MoCo try to make things a bit better for people who are walking, biking, or taking transit, some people who think it's all about them consider it a war on cars.

A generation ago the ns of people smoked cigarettes like crazy and polluted tf out of our air indoors and outdoors with it. Inside a couple decades that about-faced. Inner city and even most suburban travel for most trips taken today by car could do that same thing once all these carbrain addled boomers and gen xers phase out. Most millennials and gen zers I know simply can't afford a car comfortably and would love to get rid of one if they had one and could.

Lol, where are of these millennials that can’t afford cars? If they existed in numbers and didn’t want a car, why would they live here?

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/actually-millennials-dont-own-fewer-cars

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/car-ownership-statistics.html

Half of GenZ is still in high school or younger.

I've got 26 people that work in my team in DC between the ages of 24 and about late 30's. I think maybe 6 or 7 of them own a car. Of the ones that do all but 1 lives outside of DC proper in like Arlington or Bethesda.

Dude in the city if you're living in an apartment or a condo you're paying like 100 to 150 a month for the privilege of parking your car that you barely use. Its just not worth it at all. Can rent a car from free2move or zipcars no problem on the offchance you want one to go apple picking or whatever.

They're probably afraid to admit to you that they own one because you're probably very vocal about hating cars. Everyone at my office in that age group who lives in DC has a car. We get free parking at our office building so they all drive even if they live close by.

It sounds like you work with a bunch of idiots.

You just proved my point about why many of your team members won't admit to you that they own cars.

I was PP on the thread and didnt post what you responded to.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to point out that within a few days this thread has almost hit 50 pages and so is on track to ramp up to the same amount as the Conn Ave bike lanes. Only proving that all of you people opposing the Conn Ave bike lanes because of entitled scofflaw cyclists or some shit are full of crap. You carbrain morons oppose anything that impedes your commute hard stop. Whether that's a bike lane, the goddamn streetcar, a bus lane, or a streetery. There's no negotiation or design consideration that DDOT or any advocates for any multimodal transportation because you can't get your head out of your ass long enough to take a step back and consider a bigger picture.

Ridiculous.

DDOT staff should come here and read this garbage so that the next time Nick Delledonne and crew show up to whine and moan they can just be ignored for the obstructionists they are.

Yes, I will own the idea that I object to government making it harder for people to use their cars, a mode of transportation that people clearly prefer. I have lived in MoCo for 30+ years and we have seen government continually try to move people to public transit by making their lives miserable. So far, it hasn't worked. Honestly, we know all of you hate Maryland commuters, but I don't think your city thrives if you make everyone want to stop going there.

DC does the same thing.

Everyone I know who doesn't have a car is using Uber and Instacart and Uber Eats

When DC and MoCo try to make things a bit better for people who are walking, biking, or taking transit, some people who think it's all about them consider it a war on cars.

A generation ago the ns of people smoked cigarettes like crazy and polluted tf out of our air indoors and outdoors with it. Inside a couple decades that about-faced. Inner city and even most suburban travel for most trips taken today by car could do that same thing once all these carbrain addled boomers and gen xers phase out. Most millennials and gen zers I know simply can't afford a car comfortably and would love to get rid of one if they had one and could.

Lol, where are of these millennials that can’t afford cars? If they existed in numbers and didn’t want a car, why would they live here?

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/actually-millennials-dont-own-fewer-cars

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/car-ownership-statistics.html

Half of GenZ is still in high school or younger.

I've got 26 people that work in my team in DC between the ages of 24 and about late 30's. I think maybe 6 or 7 of them own a car. Of the ones that do all but 1 lives outside of DC proper in like Arlington or Bethesda.

Dude in the city if you're living in an apartment or a condo you're paying like 100 to 150 a month for the privilege of parking your car that you barely use. Its just not worth it at all. Can rent a car from free2move or zipcars no problem on the offchance you want one to go apple picking or whatever.

The people I know who don't have cars might as well have a car because they use Uber to get everywhere, order their groceries through Instacart and Amazon and their takeout through UberEats. IMO, they are responsible for making traffic and safety worse in the city because now we have everyone and their brother driving as part of a side hustle to serve those who eschew cars, but still want the convenience that cars provide.