TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ's current rating is its lowest in at least ten years. After three years at #1, its ranking began to slip as 2021-22 and 2022-23 data were included.

equity admissions, 160+ lowest level algebra 1 math being admitted, into TJ remedial.

Does remedial enrollment hurt or improve ranking? It's better to have remedial that none at all, IMHO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/30/thomas-jefferson-high-ranking-drops/

"Asian American enrollment dropped from about 70 percent to about 50 percent after the policy took effect in 2021."

are they trying to imply the drop in ranking has something to do with the drop in number of Asian American students admitted?

What were the percent of Asian Americans for years before and after the admissions policy change? twenty percent drop seems drastic

From another thread:


Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?
Along with the admissions change, the total number of seats were expanded by 100 seats, but Asian students were solely excluded from participating in the expanded seat assignment. There are consistently 1000+ declined Asian applicants each year, largest among all ethnicities, and none of them are allowed to receive a single seat from the expanded seat quota.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/30/thomas-jefferson-high-ranking-drops/

"Asian American enrollment dropped from about 70 percent to about 50 percent after the policy took effect in 2021."

are they trying to imply the drop in ranking has something to do with the drop in number of Asian American students admitted?

What were the percent of Asian Americans for years before and after the admissions policy change? twenty percent drop seems drastic

From another thread:


Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?
Along with the admissions change, the total number of seats were expanded by 100 seats, but Asian students were solely excluded from participating in the expanded seat assignment. There are consistently 1000+ declined Asian applicants each year, largest among all ethnicities, and none of them are allowed to receive a single seat from the expanded seat quota.

For the millionth time, this graph is wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.

2015 #1
2016 #1
2017 #2
2018 #1
2019 #1
2020 #2
2021 #1 (admissions changed from merit to equity lottery)
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

2025 #??
It might stay in double digits for a while

With bottom fourth filled with lowest math algebra 1 students, the slide has just begun.

THE NUMBERS ABOVE ARE BLATANT LIES.

The PP edited the #s above - they are wrong. Can’t make a valid argument without blatantly lying, eh?

Here are the correct rankings. Double digits is nothing new.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #20
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.

Can you provide a cite for your 2017 ranking? This link says TJ was #6 in 2017.
https://patch.com/us/across-america/americas-best-high-schools-2017-u-s-news-world-report

I started with the wikipedia info and then filled in with local news articles. It looks like wiki has multiple inconsistencies with news articles. There could be some discrepancy whether they were looking at all high schools vs. magnet schools.

We can verify all numbers after internet archive is available again (currently has DOS attack).

Archive shows TJ was #6 in 2017 for all high schools, not #20.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170524/https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings

TJ was never as low as #14. Equity liars keep pushing lies, until faced with facts. what's new.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/30/thomas-jefferson-high-ranking-drops/

"Asian American enrollment dropped from about 70 percent to about 50 percent after the policy took effect in 2021."

are they trying to imply the drop in ranking has something to do with the drop in number of Asian American students admitted?

What were the percent of Asian Americans for years before and after the admissions policy change? twenty percent drop seems drastic

From another thread:


Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?
Along with the admissions change, the total number of seats were expanded by 100 seats, but Asian students were solely excluded from participating in the expanded seat assignment. There are consistently 1000+ declined Asian applicants each year, largest among all ethnicities, and none of them are allowed to receive a single seat from the expanded seat quota.

For the millionth time, this graph is wrong.

inconvenient facts appear wrong!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.

2015 #1
2016 #1
2017 #2
2018 #1
2019 #1
2020 #2
2021 #1 (admissions changed from merit to equity lottery)
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

2025 #??
It might stay in double digits for a while

With bottom fourth filled with lowest math algebra 1 students, the slide has just begun.

THE NUMBERS ABOVE ARE BLATANT LIES.

The PP edited the #s above - they are wrong. Can’t make a valid argument without blatantly lying, eh?

Here are the correct rankings. Double digits is nothing new.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #20
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.

Can you provide a cite for your 2017 ranking? This link says TJ was #6 in 2017.
https://patch.com/us/across-america/americas-best-high-schools-2017-u-s-news-world-report

I started with the wikipedia info and then filled in with local news articles. It looks like wiki has multiple inconsistencies with news articles. There could be some discrepancy whether they were looking at all high schools vs. magnet schools.

We can verify all numbers after internet archive is available again (currently has DOS attack).

Archive shows TJ was #6 in 2017 for all high schools, not #20.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170524/https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings

TJ was never as low as #14. Equity liars keep pushing lies, until faced with facts. what's new.

I have already updated the list with correct data.

The fake "suppression" graph is still clearly wrong, weeks after it was pointed out. And yet you keep pushing it. You're projecting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/30/thomas-jefferson-high-ranking-drops/

"Asian American enrollment dropped from about 70 percent to about 50 percent after the policy took effect in 2021."

are they trying to imply the drop in ranking has something to do with the drop in number of Asian American students admitted?

What were the percent of Asian Americans for years before and after the admissions policy change? twenty percent drop seems drastic

From another thread:


Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?
Along with the admissions change, the total number of seats were expanded by 100 seats, but Asian students were solely excluded from participating in the expanded seat assignment. There are consistently 1000+ declined Asian applicants each year, largest among all ethnicities, and none of them are allowed to receive a single seat from the expanded seat quota.

For the millionth time, this graph is wrong.

inconvenient facts appear wrong!

They are wrong. Go check your math. Unless you need me to do it for you.

[Anonymous]

ADMISSION:


ENROLLMENT:


ACCEPTANCE RATE:
After the admissions change, Asian students were still accepted at a higher rate than almost all other groups:
Asian 19%
Black 14%
Hispanic 21%
White 17%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
ALL 18%

LOW-INCOME ASIAN STUDENTS BENEFITED THE MOST FROM CHANGES
https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/221280.P.pdf
page 16
"Nevertheless, in the 2021 application cycle, Asian American students attending middle schools historically underrepresented at TJ saw a sixfold
increase in offers, and the number of low-income Asian American admittees to TJ increased to 51 — from a mere one in 2020."



No discrimination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
ADMISSION:


ENROLLMENT:


ACCEPTANCE RATE:
After the admissions change, Asian students were still accepted at a higher rate than almost all other groups:
Asian 19%
Black 14%
Hispanic 21%
White 17%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
ALL 18%

LOW-INCOME ASIAN STUDENTS BENEFITED THE MOST FROM CHANGES
https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/221280.P.pdf
page 16
"Nevertheless, in the 2021 application cycle, Asian American students attending middle schools historically underrepresented at TJ saw a sixfold
increase in offers, and the number of low-income Asian American admittees to TJ increased to 51 — from a mere one in 2020."



No discrimination.

This is fake data.

[Anonymous]

Why are people making graphs suggesting essays are something other than merit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are people making graphs suggesting essays are something other than merit?

Because they are pushing RWNJ lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ's current rating is its lowest in at least ten years. After three years at #1, its ranking began to slip as 2021-22 and 2022-23 data were included.

equity admissions, 160+ lowest level algebra 1 math being admitted, into TJ remedial.

Does remedial enrollment hurt or improve ranking? It's better to have remedial that none at all, IMHO.

Even with remediation, students failed SOLs in 2021-22 and 2022-23 which hurts TJ's ranking and puts stress on these students. These figures are post-expedited retakes; we don't know how many failed on the first attempt.

VDOE SOL data, TJHSST Fail Count
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/data-policy-funding/data-reports/statistics-reports/sol-test-pass-rates-other-results
2017-18 through 2020-2021: 0
2021-22: Reading 1, History 1, Math 1, Science 6
2022-23: Reading 7, History 7, Math 4

Prior to 2017-18, there was roughly one History fail count every other year. None for Reading, Math, or Science going back to 2005.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
ADMISSION:


ENROLLMENT:


ACCEPTANCE RATE:
After the admissions change, Asian students were still accepted at a higher rate than almost all other groups:
Asian 19%
Black 14%
Hispanic 21%
White 17%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
ALL 18%

LOW-INCOME ASIAN STUDENTS BENEFITED THE MOST FROM CHANGES
https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/221280.P.pdf
page 16
"Nevertheless, in the 2021 application cycle, Asian American students attending middle schools historically underrepresented at TJ saw a sixfold
increase in offers, and the number of low-income Asian American admittees to TJ increased to 51 — from a mere one in 2020."



No discrimination.

This is fake data.

It’s all well-publicized - and accurate. Sorry it doesn’t support your narrative in an election year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
ADMISSION:


ENROLLMENT:


ACCEPTANCE RATE:
After the admissions change, Asian students were still accepted at a higher rate than almost all other groups:
Asian 19%
Black 14%
Hispanic 21%
White 17%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
ALL 18%

LOW-INCOME ASIAN STUDENTS BENEFITED THE MOST FROM CHANGES
https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/221280.P.pdf
page 16
"Nevertheless, in the 2021 application cycle, Asian American students attending middle schools historically underrepresented at TJ saw a sixfold
increase in offers, and the number of low-income Asian American admittees to TJ increased to 51 — from a mere one in 2020."



No discrimination.

Thanks for the thoughtful analysis and putting this to bed once and for all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/30/thomas-jefferson-high-ranking-drops/

"Asian American enrollment dropped from about 70 percent to about 50 percent after the policy took effect in 2021."

are they trying to imply the drop in ranking has something to do with the drop in number of Asian American students admitted?

What were the percent of Asian Americans for years before and after the admissions policy change? twenty percent drop seems drastic

From another thread:


Asian count remains more or less same, but the Asian percent has gone down?
Along with the admissions change, the total number of seats were expanded by 100 seats, but Asian students were solely excluded from participating in the expanded seat assignment. There are consistently 1000+ declined Asian applicants each year, largest among all ethnicities, and none of them are allowed to receive a single seat from the expanded seat quota.

Limit merit students, admit innocent students underprepared to handle TJ rigor. Sad state!