TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.

2015 #1
2016 #1
2017 #2
2018 #1
2019 #1
2020 #2
2021 #1 (admissions changed from merit to equity lottery)
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

2025 #??


It will probably drop to the 50-100 range if test scores drop 100 points.
It might stay in double digits for a while
Anonymous
Here are the correct rankings:
2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #20
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because of the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.

2015 #1
2016 #1
2017 #2
2018 #1
2019 #1
2020 #2
2021 #1 (admissions changed from merit to equity lottery)
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

2025 #??

It will probably drop to the 50-100 range if test scores drop 100 points.
It might stay in double digits for a while

Langley is #148, and it has fewer algebra 1 kids than tj. Mount Vernon is #11,506 and has more. So somewhere in between.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.

2015 #1
2016 #1
2017 #2
2018 #1
2019 #1
2020 #2
2021 #1 (admissions changed from merit to equity lottery)
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

2025 #??
It might stay in double digits for a while

With bottom fourth filled with lowest math algebra 1 students, the slide has just begun.



THE NUMBERS ABOVE ARE BLATANT LIES.

The PP edited the #s above - they are wrong. Can’t make a valid argument without blatantly lying, eh?

Here are the correct rankings. Double digits is nothing new.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #20
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.


Can you provide a cite for your 2017 ranking? This link says TJ was #6 in 2017.
https://patch.com/us/across-america/americas-best-high-schools-2017-u-s-news-world-report
Anonymous
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/30/thomas-jefferson-high-ranking-drops/

"Asian American enrollment dropped from about 70 percent to about 50 percent after the policy took effect in 2021."

are they trying to imply the drop in ranking has something to do with the drop in number of Asian American students admitted?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.

2015 #1
2016 #1
2017 #2
2018 #1
2019 #1
2020 #2
2021 #1 (admissions changed from merit to equity lottery)
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

2025 #??
It might stay in double digits for a while

With bottom fourth filled with lowest math algebra 1 students, the slide has just begun.



THE NUMBERS ABOVE ARE BLATANT LIES.

The PP edited the #s above - they are wrong. Can’t make a valid argument without blatantly lying, eh?

Here are the correct rankings. Double digits is nothing new.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #20
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.


Can you provide a cite for your 2017 ranking? This link says TJ was #6 in 2017.
https://patch.com/us/across-america/americas-best-high-schools-2017-u-s-news-world-report


I started with the wikipedia info and then filled in with local news articles. It looks like wiki has multiple inconsistencies with news articles. There could be some discrepancy whether they were looking at all high schools vs. magnet schools.

We can verify all numbers after internet archive is available again (currently has DOS attack).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/30/thomas-jefferson-high-ranking-drops/

"Asian American enrollment dropped from about 70 percent to about 50 percent after the policy took effect in 2021."

are they trying to imply the drop in ranking has something to do with the drop in number of Asian American students admitted?

What were the percent of Asian Americans for years before and after the admissions policy change? twenty percent drop seems drastic
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.

2015 #1
2016 #1
2017 #2
2018 #1
2019 #1
2020 #2
2021 #1 (admissions changed from merit to equity lottery)
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

2025 #??
It might stay in double digits for a while

With bottom fourth filled with lowest math algebra 1 students, the slide has just begun.



THE NUMBERS ABOVE ARE BLATANT LIES.

The PP edited the #s above - they are wrong. Can’t make a valid argument without blatantly lying, eh?

Here are the correct rankings. Double digits is nothing new.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #20
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.


Can you provide a cite for your 2017 ranking? This link says TJ was #6 in 2017.
https://patch.com/us/across-america/americas-best-high-schools-2017-u-s-news-world-report


I started with the wikipedia info and then filled in with local news articles. It looks like wiki has multiple inconsistencies with news articles. There could be some discrepancy whether they were looking at all high schools vs. magnet schools.

We can verify all numbers after internet archive is available again (currently has DOS attack).

Thanks. From the source cited above, TJ's #6 in 2017 was for all high schools.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I’m shocked! Did not see this coming.


Really?!

Anything in the top 100 nationally is still very good! Stuyvesant was #1 for the longest time, now it's below TJ. It still has less than 1% acceptance. TJ is still a very good school! There are 25k schools in the nation, so to be ranked in the top 100 still puts the school in the .4%Ile. Geez, people get some perspective!


Wait to do it again when it’s out of top 100. Won’t be long)


This decline occurred based on data from the previous admissions process.The new one which eliminated the cheating should improve the schools standing.


TJ really didn’t decline. It’s in the range normal.

TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #20
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14



I hope you're right but based on the PSAT scores we have seen, it seems likely we will at least see our test scores drop below a lot of other schools.


+1. TJ PSAT scores have dropped by almost 100 points on average

That's a huge drop for an average.


It is a huge drop that might not be apparent when NMSF is announced if the upper end holds strong. It's the bottom end that has really dropped.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.

2015 #1
2016 #1
2017 #2
2018 #1
2019 #1
2020 #2
2021 #1 (admissions changed from merit to equity lottery)
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

2025 #??
It might stay in double digits for a while

With bottom fourth filled with lowest math algebra 1 students, the slide has just begun.



THE NUMBERS ABOVE ARE BLATANT LIES.

The PP edited the #s above - they are wrong. Can’t make a valid argument without blatantly lying, eh?

Here are the correct rankings. Double digits is nothing new.

2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #20
2018 #6
2019 #10
2020 #4
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

TJ isn’t usually #1. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.


Can you provide a cite for your 2017 ranking? This link says TJ was #6 in 2017.
https://patch.com/us/across-america/americas-best-high-schools-2017-u-s-news-world-report


I started with the wikipedia info and then filled in with local news articles. It looks like wiki has multiple inconsistencies with news articles. There could be some discrepancy whether they were looking at all high schools vs. magnet schools.

We can verify all numbers after internet archive is available again (currently has DOS attack).

Archive shows TJ was #6 in 2017 for all high schools, not #20.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170524/https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings
Anonymous
My life will never be the same. How can anyone live with this news?
Anonymous
USNWR rankings per Internet Archive:
2012 #2
2013 #4
2014 #4
2015 #3
2016 #5
2017 #6
2018 #10
2019 #4
2020 #1
2021 #1
2022 #1
2023 #5
2024 #14

Was TJ really that different between 2018 and 2020? No. The rankings are volatile because the infinitesimal differences between the top schools.
Anonymous
TJ's current rating is its lowest in at least ten years. After three years at #1, its ranking began to slip as 2021-22 and 2022-23 data were included.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:TJ's current rating is its lowest in at least ten years. After three years at #1, its ranking began to slip as 2021-22 and 2022-23 data were included.


The 2023 ranking was based on only data from before the admissions change.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:TJ's current rating is its lowest in at least ten years. After three years at #1, its ranking began to slip as 2021-22 and 2022-23 data were included.

equity admissions, 160+ lowest level algebra 1 math being admitted, into TJ remedial.
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