I'm not commenting on the graphs, but regarding essays: The essays may convey some notion of merit, but it is a far more ambiguous notion of merit. Two different evaluators may score the same essay quite differently. Furthermore, an essay-writing evaluation would also be heavily influenced the writer's ability to sway the reader with their writing, a skill which some might not consider to be of most prominent importance for admissions to a STEM school. Finally, essay scores would be influenced by native English speaking ability, which is not a metric of merit. |
So much manipulation to conceal race based admission. Equity minions going crazy, flooding this forum with fantasy stories. |
In other words, it is much more difficult to “crack the code” on essay writing. 😄 |
Applicants have boasted gaining admission offer by simply putting a period in the essay box to get past the required field. Broken English was also intentionally included in the sob stories, not sure why. But the tricks of gaining admission sure are interestingly different now. |
Yes, I’m sure that actual facts and data seem like “fantasy” to RWNJs. It’s race blind. Any way you slice it. Asian students continue to have very high enrollment #s and continue to have greater rate of admission. No discrimination. |
True, but I'm glad that students from all schools now get a shot. Before it was 99% kids from a few wealthy schools. |
IMO using an essay is not in and of itself a bad thing, but using it as the main factor for admission is a bad idea. Better to have other factors (e.g. test scores) so that you have some way to know if an especially low or high scoring essay is an outlier. On the other hand, I have no idea why some posters here are so dead-set against tests as a measure of merit. Tests are, inherently, the name you give to the tool you use to assess something. If you go to a doctor and you want to find out whether you have an illness, you take a test. Some tests are better than others at measuring what they are supposed to measure - you wouldn't give someone an arithmetic test to find out if they have the mathematical aptitude to take calculus, but it's silly to think that there is no test that can be used to figure it out. Does it make sense to use multiple tests in case someone has a "bad day" or has exam stress? Maybe. I don't know what the right formula is, but it's short-sighted to think there isn't one. The thing I do agree with is that people shouldn't be penalized on admissions for not having money. I think the solution is to find tests that everyone can prep for, rather than ones that you have to pay a lot of money to prep for. Paying a lot of money should always be an option rather than a necessity. |
Unfortunately, essay writing doesn’t help much in cracking STEM questions. |
Another factor is teachers’ recommendations. I really don’t see why inputs from MS teachers were removed from a holistic reviewing process. |
Because it's been proven that they are racially biased. |
It's too bad TJ fell to 14th but since this was based on data before they fixed the selection process I think it will be back on top in no time! |
The intent behind the change was discriminatory. The only reason they changed the admissions process was to racially balance the student body. |
Tests are racist. That's why. |
This is based on 2022 data. Freshmen are from the new system that year. I don't know how freshmen affect the rankings but we will see what happens. |
If the high-achieving cohort is suppressed and substituted with a remedial cohort, were they expecting with the ranking to improve? |