Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe China's numbers. And the world owes them a huge, gloved, handshake out of gratitude. They acted ferociously and it's working.

I would not go so far as to say I totally believe their numbers and we have the fact they hid their cases at the beginning, allowing a huge celebratory dinner for 40,000 people to proceed in Wuhan in mid-January.

However, China's very aggressive containment measures once they acknowledged the problem were very much responsible for slowing the spread throughout the rest of China and from there to the world.

It also helped enormously that many countries shut down travel from China early.

like the US?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe China's numbers. And the world owes them a huge, gloved, handshake out of gratitude. They acted ferociously and it's working.

I would not go so far as to say I totally believe their numbers and we have the fact they hid their cases at the beginning, allowing a huge celebratory dinner for 40,000 people to proceed in Wuhan in mid-January.

However, China's very aggressive containment measures once they acknowledged the problem were very much responsible for slowing the spread throughout the rest of China and from there to the world.

It also helped enormously that many countries shut down travel from China early.

We owe them gratitude, but it's also the least they could do when it started there. I at least have a lot of anger that China allows conditions to persist that contribute to these epidemics. Shut down the wild animal trade and market permanently. Clean up your air and water. Otherwise it will just be another new bug coming from a pig or a bat or a cat after this one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 15 year old in Oregon that tested positive and got it through community spread. He went to the dr with a headache, fever, and body aches. Before getting the confirmed positive he was “feeling better” and attempted to return to school. Why did they test him? His symptoms are about the same as half of America that has the flu right now.

The 15 yo is in Washington state. Here is last week's flu report for Washington state - https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/5100/420-100-FluUpdate.pdf

Note:

During week 8, 4 percent of visits among Influenza-like illness Network participants were for influenza-like
illness, above the baseline of 1.5 percent.

But then right below that are charts showing that the number of influenza-positive tests during 8 was much less than the previous week.
I bet someone was wondering what is causing all those extra visits for influenza-like illness?

It's a travesty that the federal government has not been proactive about testing people. What is the issue? Money? Or something more sinister, as hinted at by Trump's obsession with the US only having "15 cases" and "1 person in the hospital."

This! Why was he tested???? I have a fever , headache, and body aches. He obviously was not in respiratory distress or he would not have gone back to school before the results came back.

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For those following global spread, BNO News Twitter has assembled the times various countries release their numbers:

- Italy: 12 p.m. ET
- China: 7 p.m. ET
- South Korea: 8 p.m. ET
- Mexico: 10 p.m. ET
- South Korea: 3 a.m. ET
- Iran: Around 3-6 a.m. ET
- UK: 9 a.m. ET

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe China's numbers. And the world owes them a huge, gloved, handshake out of gratitude. They acted ferociously and it's working.

I would not go so far as to say I totally believe their numbers and we have the fact they hid their cases at the beginning, allowing a huge celebratory dinner for 40,000 people to proceed in Wuhan in mid-January.

However, China's very aggressive containment measures once they acknowledged the problem were very much responsible for slowing the spread throughout the rest of China and from there to the world.

It also helped enormously that many countries shut down travel from China early.

We owe them gratitude, but it's also the least they could do when it started there. I at least have a lot of anger that China allows conditions to persist that contribute to these epidemics. Shut down the wild animal trade and market permanently. Clean up your air and water. Otherwise it will just be another new bug coming from a pig or a bat or a cat after this one.

Gratitude

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 15 year old in Oregon that tested positive and got it through community spread. He went to the dr with a headache, fever, and body aches. Before getting the confirmed positive he was “feeling better” and attempted to return to school. Why did they test him? His symptoms are about the same as half of America that has the flu right now.

The 15 yo is in Washington state. Here is last week's flu report for Washington state - https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/5100/420-100-FluUpdate.pdf

Note:

During week 8, 4 percent of visits among Influenza-like illness Network participants were for influenza-like
illness, above the baseline of 1.5 percent.

But then right below that are charts showing that the number of influenza-positive tests during 8 was much less than the previous week.
I bet someone was wondering what is causing all those extra visits for influenza-like illness?

It's a travesty that the federal government has not been proactive about testing people. What is the issue? Money? Or something more sinister, as hinted at by Trump's obsession with the US only having "15 cases" and "1 person in the hospital."

This! Why was he tested???? I have a fever , headache, and body aches. He obviously was not in respiratory distress or he would not have gone back to school before the results came back.

Because he had the insurance to pay for it? Because he went to a proactive health provider? If you look at that Washington state health report, you'll see they have testing info for other viruses that cause ILI. So maybe this is what happened - kid was taken to doctor, was negative for the flu. So then doctor tested for all these other viruses and he was also negative. So somehow he was flagged to be tested for COVID.

This should've been happening for a few weeks now because if you catch the virus when it's only infected a few people, you have a better chance of stamping it out. I'm confident public health professionals at the CDC tried to get that done and somewhere the attempt to do more widespread testing was stopped.

It may be too late to do that now. We'll see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 15 year old in Oregon that tested positive and got it through community spread. He went to the dr with a headache, fever, and body aches. Before getting the confirmed positive he was “feeling better” and attempted to return to school. Why did they test him? His symptoms are about the same as half of America that has the flu right now.

The 15 yo is in Washington state. Here is last week's flu report for Washington state - https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/5100/420-100-FluUpdate.pdf

Note:

During week 8, 4 percent of visits among Influenza-like illness Network participants were for influenza-like
illness, above the baseline of 1.5 percent.

But then right below that are charts showing that the number of influenza-positive tests during 8 was much less than the previous week.
I bet someone was wondering what is causing all those extra visits for influenza-like illness?

It's a travesty that the federal government has not been proactive about testing people. What is the issue? Money? Or something more sinister, as hinted at by Trump's obsession with the US only having "15 cases" and "1 person in the hospital."

This! Why was he tested???? I have a fever , headache, and body aches. He obviously was not in respiratory distress or he would not have gone back to school before the results came back.

Because he had the insurance to pay for it? Because he went to a proactive health provider? If you look at that Washington state health report, you'll see they have testing info for other viruses that cause ILI. So maybe this is what happened - kid was taken to doctor, was negative for the flu. So then doctor tested for all these other viruses and he was also negative. So somehow he was flagged to be tested for COVID.

This should've been happening for a few weeks now because if you catch the virus when it's only infected a few people, you have a better chance of stamping it out. I'm confident public health professionals at the CDC tried to get that done and somewhere the attempt to do more widespread testing was stopped.

It may be too late to do that now. We'll see.

it's too late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guessing about 60 new community spread cases out left coast way in a few days. the juice is loose.

Yeah, it’s on in the US.

Get ready for major school and work closures here.

And let’s hope it burns out in spring and doesn’t come back in the fall. But what I think is most likely is that we’re going to have this virus for the next clendar year at least.

[Anonymous]

Those of you who believe this virus is “no big deal,” can you help me understand why? From where I’m sitting, I see our country not testing very many people, finding evidence of infections without foreign travel, data showing 10-20% of infected persons need hospitalization, and not nearly enough hospital capacity for those kinds of numbers. Keeping politics out of it, what am I missing that says there is nothing to worry about?

As I understand it, the idea of quarantine isn’t to lock people down unfairly, it’s to slow the spread of the disease so we don’t overwhelm our hospitals and healthcare providers. People who don’t want to obey the quarantine won’t be shot in the street, they will just be at higher risk of being infected and spreading the disease.

I’d like to understand the other side saying there is fear-mongering at play. What am I misunderstanding?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those of you who believe this virus is “no big deal,” can you help me understand why? From where I’m sitting, I see our country not testing very many people, finding evidence of infections without foreign travel, data showing 10-20% of infected persons need hospitalization, and not nearly enough hospital capacity for those kinds of numbers. Keeping politics out of it, what am I missing that says there is nothing to worry about?

As I understand it, the idea of quarantine isn’t to lock people down unfairly, it’s to slow the spread of the disease so we don’t overwhelm our hospitals and healthcare providers. People who don’t want to obey the quarantine won’t be shot in the street, they will just be at higher risk of being infected and spreading the disease.

I’d like to understand the other side saying there is fear-mongering at play. What am I misunderstanding?

The just a flu story started in the early days when this became a story the week of January 20 before a lot was known about how insidiously this disease can spread and how bad and medical resource intensive the severe cases can be.

For example, it was thought it could only spread from those exhibiting more extreme symptoms (true for SARS, which people were analogizing to). We now know asymptomatic infected people can be contagious.

That is why quarantine can be effective at slowing the spread. And you are correct, the point of quarantine is to flatten the curve so the peak of cases is much lower than it otherwise would be, allowing us to space out demands on hospital and health care workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In a Chinese grocery in Flushing Queens there was a bit of a panic rice buying yesterday following Wechat rumours. Chinese social media is filled with stories like “Californians rushing to buy guns and will shoot people with the virus” and other crap like that.

https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1233573258806669313?s=21

At the Eden Center the Asian grocery is also picked over when it comes to rice. Almost 50% sold out. Only some more generic varieties left.

[Anonymous]

Ecuador reports its first case, the second in South America.

The release posted on BNO News Twitter indicates the person came from Spain on February 14. This would be the first case involving spread from Spain should this contact be verified.

[Anonymous]

Lebanon reports three new cases that were not directly imported.

All contracted it from one of the previous four cases, who were travelers who had recently come from Iran.

[Anonymous]

The FDA will allow certain labs to use tests for COVID-19 that have not been subject to prior FDA review.

11:00 am: US FDA to allow some labs to use virus tests prior to review

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued a new policy Saturday that will allow laboratories to develop diagnostic tests for the coronavirus in order to speed up testing capacity in the U.S.

The new policy is for specific labs that develop and begin to use coronavirus diagnostics before the FDA has completed review of their Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) requests, the administration said.

“Under this policy, we expect certain laboratories who develop validated tests for coronavirus would begin using them right away prior to FDA review,” said Jeff Shuren, director of the FDA’s Center for Devices and Radiological Health. “We believe this action will support laboratories across the country working on this urgent public health situation.”

Personal view: About time. I have suspected that FDA insistence on approving tests before they are used has played an important role in the US bottleneck in testing problem.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/29/coronavirus-live-updates-france-bans-large-gatherings.html

[Anonymous]

All you people stockpiling rice .. do you actually eat rice?